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JMCKUSICK

(259 posts)
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:31 PM May 22

Latest Polling data has Biden -17 popularity

I wonder if any of these pollsters ever bother to ask WHY?
It just doesn't make sense. I guess the next thing Democrats are going to discover is that he's that unpopular due to people being inundated with negative coverage in MSM, and down right programming on the right.
It's incredibly hard to dent a flood of disinformation with a monthly great news report that gets a day of Airtime at best.
I'm not sure how we can overcome that.

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unblock

(52,872 posts)
2. Joe is mostly running a country and fundraising. He has not really begun to campaign yet.
Wed May 22, 2024, 12:39 PM
May 22

Things will change.

PeaceWave

(137 posts)
4. Follow the propaganda. Republicans enjoy carving to pieces good men. Remember what they did to Carter?
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:05 PM
May 22

The Republican Party was in shambles after Nixon. Did they repent for their sins? Nope. They just doubled down on dirty tricks and four years later we were all stuck with a mini dynasty headed by an addled Reagan and his CIA chief puppet master H W. The current Republican Party is taking the same course of action. It's not even deny, deny, deny. It's deflect, deflect, deflect. Everything they are guilty of, they are trying (in a disturbingly successful manner) to pin on Democrats. The question is how much of this B.S. we're willing to let our team take before we really push back hard.

For instance, the other day in court, Michael Cohen acknowledged stealing money from the Trump Organization that was intended to be paid to a group called Red Finch. The Michael Cohen theft ended up being the headline story that night. The fact that Red Finch was being paid by the Trump Organization to rig a popularity poll the results of which Trump didn't like received zero media attention. How was this not a big story? Mr. Fake News caught red handed generating what...Fake News. As Democrats, we've got to be willing to recognize and seize such opportunities. Being Mr. Nice Guy isn't going to be enough to win this next election.

jimfields33

(16,673 posts)
6. Nobody knows of this Red Finch. If it had been a pollster well known, it definitely would have had the
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:34 PM
May 22

Media screaming. And everyone knows what theft is which is why it was the story. Everyone has a theft story.

Torchlight

(3,653 posts)
7. This far out from the election, polling data, one way or the other, is too diaphanous to be a measure
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:46 PM
May 22

Not until about four week prior do I give them any real merit beyond the direction daily memes are blowing in from.

But I do get that fear, doubt and uncertainty are much more absolute, dynamic, riveting, and dramatic than the boring stuff like research-based analysis which gets little to no airplay. It's been decided we'd much rather watch The Six Million Dollar Man than see Apollo 13 , at least until the drama and certainty get starring roles.

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