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DemocraticPatriot

(4,653 posts)
Thu May 23, 2024, 02:52 AM May 23

Nikki Haley Surrendered, But Not Her Voters - Atlantic


The views of Nikki Haley Republicans—pro-Ukraine, pro-Israel, pro-market—reflect all those things that Republicans used to think in that bygone era when Reagans and Bushes and Romneys roamed the earth. But few feel any emotional bond to Haley. If she gives a Ted Kennedy style “dream shall never die” speech at the Republican convention in Milwaukee this summer, they won’t tear up. They’ll wonder what the hell she imagines she’s talking about.

Most of her supporters voted for Haley as a way to stop Trump. Haley’s announcement today that she intends to vote for Trump won’t raise their opinion of him, it will only lower their opinion of her. When she says, as she said again today, that she wished Donald Trump would “reach out” to her voters, she’s speaking words that may sound like English, but make no sense. The only way Donald Trump could reach out to Trump-skeptical Republicans is by pleading guilty to the many criminal charges against him and vowing to devote the rest of his life to restitution for the victims of his many civil frauds.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/05/nikki-haley-trump-endorse/678461/

Sorry there's a paywall, I was able to read the entire article on my newsapp. Maybe someone knows where there's another copy of this?

Haley has sold out, for the sake of her own political future, but I don't see it doing her much good in 2028---
the Trump base will never go for her, and the voters she is selling out right now are less likely to vote for her again...


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Nikki Haley Surrendered, But Not Her Voters - Atlantic (Original Post) DemocraticPatriot May 23 OP
It's archived. usonian May 23 #1
TY. ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 23 #2
According to OpenSecrets, Nikki Haley is the 4th highest recipient of Pro-Israel donations in 23-24 election cycle. PufPuf23 May 23 #3
Dark Money talks. Ms. Haley's numbered accounts have grown. Traurigkeit May 23 #14
I think it's incredibly naive to think they won't vote for him if she gets the VP nod. BlueTsunami2018 May 23 #4
There is no way he would pick her as VP. sheshe2 May 24 #23
If it would ensure his victory, and it just might, he absolutely would. BlueTsunami2018 May 24 #24
I Always Thought Many of Haley's Voters Were ABT- Anybody But Trump Indykatie May 23 #5
I agree. Haley was a protest vote. NH Ethylene May 23 #8
Nikki Haley turned tail and ran away from what values and principles she once had. ProudMNDemocrat May 23 #6
another word is Careerist. maxsolomon May 23 #16
Brilliantly written salute to the oh-so-flakey Nikki Haley. jaxexpat May 23 #7
Nikki Haley sunk her own ship yesterday by endorsing Trump. Greybnk48 May 23 #9
Some Republicans I know will never vote for Trump... ananda May 23 #10
Haley is a woman of color duckworth969 May 23 #11
Oh, they definitely would. maxsolomon May 23 #17
Nikki sold her soul for a slim chance TSF will pick her for the VP slot. Blue Idaho May 23 #12
Let's not pretend Nikki Haley has ever had any principles Traurigkeit May 23 #13
Opportunistic prevaricator. The Wizard May 23 #15
Hopefully it is the last straw for anyone sane still voting for r's. onecaliberal May 23 #18
It's not a surrender. It's a sellout. One might surrender when it's the only choice. One sells out when one picks the Wonder Why May 23 #19
She's a coward and an opportunist. Dulcinea May 23 #20
VP coming MoreDemocracy May 23 #21
She only has voters because she wasn't Trumpy. Joining him, those votes stay home or vote Biden. n/t FSogol May 23 #22

PufPuf23

(8,953 posts)
3. According to OpenSecrets, Nikki Haley is the 4th highest recipient of Pro-Israel donations in 23-24 election cycle.
Thu May 23, 2024, 05:25 AM
May 23
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips?cycle=2024&ind=Q05

Not sue what this means with all the scurrying about; whether Haley is willing to be VP under Trump.

Could be Trump fails to make the election, Nikki Haley is the GOP POTUS candidate,

Trump and Haley and Netanyahu have conjuring goals.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,552 posts)
4. I think it's incredibly naive to think they won't vote for him if she gets the VP nod.
Thu May 23, 2024, 05:50 AM
May 23

Let’s not forget what kind of people we’re talking about here. They’re locksteppers and authoritarians at heart. She gives them the excuse they need to jump back on board, regardless of what he’s done. Maybe he’ll drop dead and she’ll be President. Maybe he’ll be impeached and convicted this time and she’ll be President.

This country is fucked in the head.

sheshe2

(84,485 posts)
23. There is no way he would pick her as VP.
Fri May 24, 2024, 12:46 AM
May 24

He hates women, they are just play things to him. Toys that are replaceable when he gets bored with them.

He is a user and an abuser. Fact, he wants to have sex with his own daughter and cheated on all his wives. He has no respect for any woman, just a pussy he can grab.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,552 posts)
24. If it would ensure his victory, and it just might, he absolutely would.
Fri May 24, 2024, 05:32 AM
May 24

It doesn’t matter what his thoughts on women are, he wants to be dictator. If picking her is the means to the end, he’ll take it. It’s not like any VP he has would have any say in anything anyway. It would get him votes and that’s all that matters.

And don’t tell me she wouldn’t take it, she sees that as her path to power should he drop dead or whatever.

We need to stop with this simplistic nonsense. While he is incredibly ignorant, he’s not stupid, he’s not a fool. He’s devious and cunning, this would be the shrewd angle. He’s all about the angles.

The only thing he’s calculating here is whether picking Scott would get him more Black votes, which he absolutely needs, or even more of the women and moderate vote, which he also needs. However that comes out on the scale is what he’ll do.

Indykatie

(3,704 posts)
5. I Always Thought Many of Haley's Voters Were ABT- Anybody But Trump
Thu May 23, 2024, 06:44 AM
May 23

I saw some interviewed who stated that they would now vote for Biden or sit out the General.

NH Ethylene

(30,845 posts)
8. I agree. Haley was a protest vote.
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:43 AM
May 23

She was adept at campaigning and there may have been a few who actually favored her, but mostly she was a symbol and nobody is going to care who she is voting for.

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,242 posts)
6. Nikki Haley turned tail and ran away from what values and principles she once had.
Thu May 23, 2024, 06:57 AM
May 23

She too sold her soul to the evil demon who even put down her husband in uniform.

What does one call another who sells herself to the highest bidder(TSF)? Nikki Haley is a FAKE.

jaxexpat

(7,050 posts)
7. Brilliantly written salute to the oh-so-flakey Nikki Haley.
Thu May 23, 2024, 07:06 AM
May 23

She may garner protest votes from a few never-Trumpers but for the rest of Republicania's citizens she'll always be "that south-Asian girl". The perfect GOP, not-a-Democrat, candidate to staff those rare occasions when "inclusiveness" is the featured pretense.

Greybnk48

(10,210 posts)
9. Nikki Haley sunk her own ship yesterday by endorsing Trump.
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:00 AM
May 23

Everyone that I have heard interviewed that was for Haley, had that position because they were anti-choice, anti-women's rights, anti-immigrant, but hated Trump.

As someone already said, she is/WAS a conservative anti-Trump protest group.

ananda

(29,032 posts)
10. Some Republicans I know will never vote for Trump...
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:06 AM
May 23

but like Haley.

I think that article accurately describes them.

duckworth969

(812 posts)
11. Haley is a woman of color
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:38 AM
May 23

Will a typical MAGA middle-aged white male vote for Chump if she’s the VP?

Personally, I have serious doubts.

maxsolomon

(33,620 posts)
17. Oh, they definitely would.
Thu May 23, 2024, 05:10 PM
May 23

VP plays no part in their choice.

But she's not getting the nod. Trump holds grudges. It's going to be Vance.

Blue Idaho

(5,123 posts)
12. Nikki sold her soul for a slim chance TSF will pick her for the VP slot.
Thu May 23, 2024, 02:46 PM
May 23

Meanwhile her voters are left wondering just WTF happened to “their” candidate and her integrity…

onecaliberal

(33,385 posts)
18. Hopefully it is the last straw for anyone sane still voting for r's.
Thu May 23, 2024, 06:21 PM
May 23

If this isn't proof positive that these people stand for nothing but money and power, I don't know what is.

Wonder Why

(3,637 posts)
19. It's not a surrender. It's a sellout. One might surrender when it's the only choice. One sells out when one picks the
Thu May 23, 2024, 08:45 PM
May 23

worst choice. She sold out her party, her constituents, her state, her country, the Constitution and the American people.

Dulcinea

(6,816 posts)
20. She's a coward and an opportunist.
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:04 PM
May 23

She talked a good game at first but folded in the clutch. She fell into line like the rest of them. And she won't be VP. Dolt 45 will pick Tim Scott or JD Vance: someone who will be content to stay in the background.

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