Divine promise of Palestine's liberation 'from the river to the sea', elimination of Zionist regime will be fulfilled

[LeftInTX]

During the meeting, Iran’s Leader thanked the Palestinian nation, especially the people of Gaza, for offering their condolences. He also extended congratulations and condolences for the martyrdom of Haniyeh's children and commended the Palestinian official for his patience.

Referring to the remarkable resistance displayed by the people of Gaza, which has surprised the world, Ayatollah Khamenei remarked, “Who would have believed that one day, slogans in support of Palestine would be raised in U.S. universities and that the flag of Palestine would be raised there? Who would have believed that one day in Japan and demonstrations in support of Palestine, the slogan "Death to Israel" would be chanted in Persian?”

He highlighted that there may be future events related to Palestine that may seem unimaginable at present.

The Leader referenced Quranic verses regarding the realization of God's two promises to the mother of Prophet Moses (pbuh). “Now God's first promise about the Palestinian people has been fulfilled, and that is the victory of the people of Gaza, who are a small group, against the big, powerful group [consisting of] the U.S., NATO, England, and a number of other countries. Accordingly, the second promise, which is the elimination of the Zionist regime, can also be realized. With God's grace, the day will come when Palestine will be established ‘from the river to the sea.’”



https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/498913/Divine-promise-of-Palestine-s-liberation-from-the-river-to-the

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These are not my words. This is what they say.

What happened to Iran's five day mourning?? And why aren't they delivering Haniyeh to the ICC???

[Think. Again.]

1. It almost made me laugh when I read...

"...the remarkable resistance displayed by the people of Gaza,..."

I guess being slaughtered is now an indication of resisting things?

[Walleye]

4. I am still trying to figure out how babies can be martyrs

[sarisataka]

7. That is due to the fact you are looking at their statements

with a Western mindset. When the Kamikaze appeared in WW2 Americans didn't understand then either.

It pays to study one's opponent; understand how they think differently than you.

[Think. Again.]

8. No, I think it has more to do...

...with the fact that the rightwing ayatolla is trying to pretend that the innocent, non-hamas Palestinian citizens of Gaza are somehow all hamas terrorists (yes, even the dead babies), just like the rightwing here tries to do.

[sarisataka]

9. So much wrong. Let me try to clarify

From the Ayatolla's perspective:

-Hamas are not terrorists
-"innocent, non-hamas Palestinian citizens' is redundant and meaningless. They are all Palestinian citizens.
-Hamas is (one of) the active resistance arms of the Palestinian people
-all Palestinians have the goal of eliminating Israel and freeing Palestine
-therefore all Palestinians who die are martyrs of the resistance (even the babies)

Any Palestinian who does not support the above is a traitor.

[Think. Again.]

12. So I'm correct...

...since your explaination doesn't differ from when I said:

"..the rightwing ayatolla is trying to pretend that the innocent, non-hamas Palestinian citizens of Gaza are somehow all hamas terrorists..."

Your "so much wrong" post actually proves my point. Do I need to clarify anything for you?

[sarisataka]

14. The difference you are failing to see

"trying to pretend"- the implication is that he is saying it for propaganda purposes. He is not pretending; he and Hamas truly believe this. The distinction is important if the goal is to actually end conflict between Israel and Palestine.

Do you also believe he is pretending when he talks of the elimination of the Zionist regime?

[Think. Again.]

15. I have no more idea of what he "believes"...

...than I do about what any given U.S. televangelist "believes".

I do know that not all innocent, non-hamas Gaza civilians are terrorists, not even all the babies, and so I also know he is "trying to pretend" that.

[sarisataka]

16. There is a very old quote

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Which is as true today as it was thousands of years

It leads to a second quote by the same-

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."

It pays to know what your opponent "believes".

[Think. Again.]

17. Good luck with that...

..because the truth is, we can only know what someone SAYS they believe.

It pays more to know what your enemy is actually doing.

[sarisataka]

18. I agree

WATCH: Hostage Families Forum releases harrowing footage of five female soldiers being abducted on Oct. 7

[Coventina]

10. This is not about a Western viewpoint of "left" and "right" politics.

He is a RELIGIOUS leader.

This is about fundamentalist Shia Islam. Shia Islam does not believe in a separation of secular and religious power.

[Think. Again.]

13. What does religion have to do with...

...innocent, non-terrorists being grouped in with terrorists?

[Coventina]

19. Religion is at the cause of the entire situation. He is a religious leader.

He is the one saying that the children are martyrs for the Islamic faith.

[Think. Again.]

20. He can be as disconnected to reality as he wants...

...but his "religious" excuses and weirdness can't be allowed to harm people and nobody should accept his fantasy that children are somehow natural terrorists, not even his make-believe enemies.

And the same goes for hamas and netanyahu.

[betsuni]

2. "Who would have have believed that one day in Japan ... 'Death to Israel' would be chanted in Persian?"

LOL NOT. Ridiculous. Maybe ten people at most and that's optimistic.

[Lonestarblue]

3. Just more saber rattling from Iran.

Yes, they’ll continue to fund terrorists, but I doubt they seriously think that Israel can be eliminated. It is not the majority of people in Iran who want to eliminate Israel, it is the Ayatollah and he isn’t about to start a war with the US and Israel.

[Think. Again.]

5. Yep...

...and they way the ayatollah tried to continue the rightwing's attempts to conflate the "people of Gaza" with hamas is very telling about where his loyalties lie.

[werdna]

6. It just never freaking ends!

Religious national states warring with each other, claiming victory in defeat, and victim-hood in victory!

[sarisataka]

11. When they tell you who they are...

OTH they have never tried to conceal who they are.

Iran also has not ratified the ICC so he is safe there.

[Takket]

21. If Iran is so concerned with the elimination of Israel, why don't they invade it?

[LeftInTX]

22. They indirectly have. They back are main backers of Hezbollah and Houthis.

Military and Financial Backing: Iran’s support for Hezbollah is no secret. From an initial investment in training and arming the budding militia in the early 1980s, Iran now reportedly provides an estimated $700 million to Hezbollah annually, according to the U.S. Department of State. This funding facilitates a spectrum of activities, from military operations against Israel to maintaining a vast network of social services in Lebanon. Additionally, Hezbollah’s arsenal, believed to contain more than 100,000 rockets, is largely bankrolled by Tehran. Some experts argue that Hezbollah has grown independent of Iranian funding, citing its various other sources of income, from the global diaspora to criminal enterprises. While these streams are significant, Iran’s financial infusion remains Hezbollah’s primary lifeline, ensuring its military dominance and facilitating its expansive socio-political initiatives in Lebanon.


Ideological Alignment: More than just a financial or military ally, Hezbollah represents a key ideological partner for Iran. The organization’s 1985 manifesto not only calls for the destruction of Israel but also pledges allegiance to the then Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. This shared vision, rooted in Shiite Islamism, ensures a deep-seated alignment of goals and worldviews. However, skeptics highlight instances where Hezbollah’s Lebanese-nationalist goals did not perfectly align with Iranian objectives. While minor divergences exist, the overarching ideological congruence between the two entities is undeniable.

Viability of the Proxy Strategy: Iran’s use of Hezbollah as a proxy extends its regional influence and further its objectives while avoiding direct confrontations. However, this strategy is not without risks. Hezbollah’s activities, from its involvement in the Syrian civil war to clashes with Israel, can inadvertently draw Iran into larger regional skirmishes. Further, an over-reliance on proxies can lead to unpredictability. Even with shared ideologies, proxy groups can prioritize their interests, potentially jeopardizing Iranian objectives. Moreover, the Lebanese political landscape is complex, and any significant shift in internal dynamics could affect Hezbollah’s standing and, by extension, Iran’s influence. Proponents of the proxy strategy argue that it is a tried-and-tested method, and allows major powers to exert influence without direct involvement. They also point out that Hezbollah, given its ideological alignment and dependency on Iran, is less likely to diverge significantly from Tehran’s directives.


https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/irans-support-houthis-what-know

https://www.isdp.eu/iran-and-hezbollah-proxy-power-play/