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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(109,346 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:05 PM Monday

Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'

Donald Trump on Sunday called for President Joe Biden to take down an attack ad featuring a series of quotes attributed to the Republican in which he mocks dead soldiers.

The former president’s demand came on the same day that Biden honored fallen troops in a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France, the burial ground that Trump chose not to visit in 2018 and was later reported to have done so while describing the site as “filled with losers.” Trump has denied making the remark—and another in which he allegedly called more than 1,800 Marines “suckers” for being killed—ever since The Atlantic first published his purported words in 2020.

Those denials continued Sunday, first at a rally in Las Vegas. “He said I stood over graves of soldiers and I said: ‘These people are suckers and losers, the dead soldiers from World War I,’’ Trump said, referring to Biden. He went on to claim the whole episode was “made up” and, despite the Biden campaign knowing it’s “phony,” they still “took an ad using it—these are sick people.”

Trump appeared to be referring to an attack ad launched by the Biden campaign on Friday during the president’s visit to Normandy for ceremonies commemorating the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings. The video featured the reported “suckers” and “losers” quotes, along with audio of Trump mocking the late Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as being thought of as a “war hero” because he was captured during the Vietnam War. “I like people that weren’t captured,” Trump added.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-demands-biden-remove-ad-093232346.html

Truth hurts.
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I'm looking forward to the ad of trump demanding Biden remove the ad ColinC Monday #1
Can anyone here believe Lindsey Graham calling D-Day a failure? I am truly sickened by these folks. Demsrule86 Monday #6
Graham served in the Navy. viva la Tuesday #79
I hate to defend Graham because he's a POS, but he was saying there was a failure to stop Hitler NYC Liberal Tuesday #86
Fat whinny boy is mad because Pres. Biden is mocking him, calling our brave solders losers and such. SWBTATTReg Monday #2
Biden Rebl2 Tuesday #78
Sorry, Mr. trump, I like presidents that aren't convicted felons. Torchlight Monday #3
I also like presidents who aren't RAPISTS. TSExile Monday #7
"I did not have Potty Mouth with those corpses, dead soldiers." - GOP' Greatest Felon BoRaGard Monday #22
I like presidents who are not evil Pieces Of $hit. AntiChrist evil. Crook, rapist, traitor Trueblue1968 Tuesday #89
So what is Trump going to do to Biden if Biden says NO? rurallib Monday #4
I understand legal genius Alina Habba is available to represent you... agingdem Monday #46
That is the Trump way PatSeg Monday #64
Treat TSF the way he treats others NanaCat Monday #5
YES!! This is not the time to go high when they go low. TSExile Monday #33
Yup. I was bullied and it maybe a bit petty of me, BlueKota Monday #60
Same here...and I agree. TSExile Tuesday #85
The ones who have actual authority are the worst. BlueKota Tuesday #91
You had me at "beaten"... ECL213 Tuesday #87
And they don't even have truth on their side, or evidence. We do. soldierant Monday #59
Heck they even have the audio of what he said BlueKota Monday #62
Double The Budget For This One, Sir The Magistrate Monday #8
A sick dog whines. speak easy Tuesday #90
His own chief of staff confirmed the statement Johonny Monday #9
He also told John Kelly Hitler "did some good things"... agingdem Monday #42
If The Atlantic didn't why should Joe? LiberalFighter Monday #10
Trump claims only a "psycho" or a "very stupid person" would've made such statements. surfered Monday #11
Trump is both. onecaliberal Monday #16
"These people are suckers and losers, the dead soldiers from World War I,'' MagickMuffin Monday #12
Sue if you can disprove it TSF IbogaProject Monday #13
Ad makes Biden look strong and the response by tRump is weak and whiny. texasfiddler Monday #14
He's been forced to play defense. Never good in a political campaign. tinrobot Monday #15
Good. "Only a hit dog hollers." Double down on that ad, Joe! SunSeeker Monday #17
Since Sir Francis Bacon "Slander boldly, something always sticks" markodochartaigh Monday #18
Like LBJ and calling his opponent a Goat-F'er NanaCat Tuesday #69
The draft-dodging republican felon wants what? BoRaGard Monday #19
Love seeing him on the defensive ismnotwasm Monday #20
sure does . r u ready donald for the debates. AllaN01Bear Monday #21
He demands?...Bwahahahahahahahaaaa spanone Monday #23
Pfft. GB_RN Monday #24
Wow, that's a new name, and it's so perfect!! lark Tuesday #68
Have At It! GB_RN Tuesday #71
Thanks! lark Tuesday #75
shithole said it..................... Lovie777 Monday #25
Just as soon as you drop out of the race and report Emile Monday #26
Trump loves to slander and defame others. Irish_Dem Monday #27
Trump never retracted all those full-page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park Five. sop Monday #53
Trump has never retracted one damn thing as I recall. Irish_Dem Monday #55
He not only refused to retract it NanaCat Tuesday #70
His Feelings EddieOnTheMesa Monday #28
He's very demanding lately. Think. Again. Monday #29
You know he said it when he denies saying it. He has a history of that. twodogsbarking Monday #30
Dear Donnie, demand in one hand and shit in the other. Let us know which hand fills up first. 11 Bravo Monday #31
OK, so someone else besides me BaronChocula Monday #48
Happy Birthday! 11 Bravo Monday #49
Thank you! BaronChocula Monday #50
A belated Happy Birthday to you. I hope you had a wonderful day. niyad Tuesday #77
Well, BaronChocula Tuesday #84
My parents used to use that phrase a lot. 🤣 BlueKota Monday #63
My grand-da used to say that all the time NanaCat Tuesday #73
Obviously, this is what Biden ads need to repeat over and over. CoopersDad Monday #32
Nah, fuck you, Trump. Initech Monday #34
Felonious D said it. The Unmitigated Gall Monday #35
Dotard breaks out in hives when he hears the truth about himself! PortTack Monday #36
The RTumpster's own words will be his downfall... TIA... ultralite001 Monday #37
Aren't you late for jail? Emile Monday #38
Fuck your feelings tRump you're an anti-American snowflake. texasfiddler Monday #39
Convict said what? orangecrush Monday #40
Biden campaign to TCF: "Do the letters F O mean anything to you?" nt Buns_of_Fire Monday #41
If he has a problem with the "losers" & "suckers" quotes, he needs to take it up with the Atlantic for publishing them. ShazzieB Monday #43
Increase the ad budget and extend it's run. Bristlecone Monday #44
Trump should reciprocate in countless ways. lpbk2713 Monday #45
According to Mary Trump's book, at one point Junior announced that he was considering joining the military Rhiannon12866 Monday #47
trump demands... Wounded Bear Monday #51
Stay on the attack. Scruffy1 Monday #52
The sick fuck can demand all he wants ProudMNDemocrat Monday #54
How about fuck you, Motherfucker? Aviation Pro Monday #56
Eat shit and die, motherfucker! Blue Owl Monday #57
What is funny here edhopper Monday #58
What's that, Donny? Emrys Monday #61
Good ad. Liberal In Texas Monday #65
How about never, Donald? Does never work for you? nt TBF Monday #66
No one is claiming Trump "stood over the graves of soldiers" whopis01 Tuesday #67
Trump can sure bet DENVERPOPS Tuesday #72
Yeah, we are accusing him of doing it over their graves NanaCat Tuesday #74
Let me guess... Mike Nelson Tuesday #76
LOL! Trump is whining that Biden is telling the truth about him while he lies daily about Biden. Martin68 Tuesday #80
HOW ABOUT AN AD OF TRUMP MOCKING JOHN McCAIN? Jimvanhise Tuesday #81
Well convicted felon ex-president, one actions does have consequences, good or bad. republianmushroom Tuesday #82
Go ahead... notKeith Tuesday #83
Mr. President, please repeat this every time you're behind a microphone. spanone Tuesday #88

viva la

(3,450 posts)
79. Graham served in the Navy.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:21 AM
Tuesday

But his allegiance to Trump matters more than his loyalty to the military and those who died liberating Europe from Hitler.

Here's the sequence of his change:
1. Trump goes to D-Day commemoration during his administration. He said and did disrespectful things about our military and those who fought and died.
2. Biden goes to D-Day commemoration and behaves with respect, honoring the heroic sacrifices.
3. Trump's behavior is back in the news, and people are talking about his disrespect for the heroes of D-Day.
4. Lindsey Graham decides that licking Trump requires joining him in sneering at those who served.
5. Also, he realizes he now has to denigrate the importance of D-Day and the immense (though destructive) achievement.
6. Once again he proves that loving Trump means hating all that is good.

NYC Liberal

(20,151 posts)
86. I hate to defend Graham because he's a POS, but he was saying there was a failure to stop Hitler
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:13 PM
Tuesday

before the escalation into another world war which is what led to D-Day being necessary. Not that D-Day was a failure. And he was comparing it to what will happen if we fail to stop Putin. This was in response to Tommy Tuberville claiming Putin has no interest in seizing land.

If you spent 15 minutes studying Putin and what he wants, he wants to recreate the Russian Empire. He's not going to stop in Ukraine. We celebrated the 80th anniversary of D-Day. It was a failure. It was the unnecessary war, described by Winston Churchill. We had a dozen chances to stop Hitler. It's not about NATO. It's not about American weapons in Ukraine. It's about a megalomaniac wanting to create the Russian Empire by force of arms. If you don't stop him, there goes Taiwan. So we've been slow as hell of helping Ukraine, but Senator Tuberville's analysis really misses what Putin's all about. He's an outlier, I think, in the Republican Party. I like him personally. But what did Trump do to get the weapons flowing? He created a loan system. They're sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in- in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China. If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of, that 10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let's help them win a war we can't afford to lose. Let's find a solution to this war. But they're sitting on a gold mine. To give Putin 10 or $12 trillion for critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-graham-senator-south-carolina-face-the-nation-transcript-06-09-2024/

SWBTATTReg

(22,532 posts)
2. Fat whinny boy is mad because Pres. Biden is mocking him, calling our brave solders losers and such.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:16 PM
Monday

Never take Pres. Biden's words down mocking tRUMP. tRUMP will be the one mocked in the years to come for many reasons.

Rebl2

(13,782 posts)
78. Biden
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 10:59 AM
Tuesday

not mocking tfg, but just showing us all what Trump says about American soldiers that fight for our country. What kind of president talks about their country’s soldiers that way, saying they are losers and suckers.

Torchlight

(3,651 posts)
3. Sorry, Mr. trump, I like presidents that aren't convicted felons.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:21 PM
Monday

A schoolyard bully folding faster than soggy paper, whining that people are doing to him what he habitually does to everyone else.

BoRaGard

(575 posts)
22. "I did not have Potty Mouth with those corpses, dead soldiers." - GOP' Greatest Felon
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:41 PM
Monday

REPUBLICANS DENY HAVING POTTY MOUTHS
and telling lies about their lies.

Trueblue1968

(17,318 posts)
89. I like presidents who are not evil Pieces Of $hit. AntiChrist evil. Crook, rapist, traitor
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:07 PM
Tuesday

That is Trump through and through.

#LockUpTrump .... 40 Years bin the slammer !!!!

PatSeg

(48,390 posts)
64. That is the Trump way
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:57 PM
Monday

Or at least threaten to sue him. The "suckers and losers" is out there now, so it wouldn't matter if they took the ad down. People have seen and heard it. It's not going away.

It doesn't serve Trump to keep repeating it however, even if he is denying he said it. All he's doing is reinforcing the phrase in people's minds. Politics 101.

BlueKota

(2,128 posts)
60. Yup. I was bullied and it maybe a bit petty of me,
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:21 PM
Monday

but I love to see someone else turn the tables and mock the bullies.

TSExile

(3,141 posts)
85. Same here...and I agree.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:08 PM
Tuesday

I don't like bullies...especially bullies in elected office. I don't like people who punch down.

BlueKota

(2,128 posts)
62. Heck they even have the audio of what he said
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:27 PM
Monday

about McCain. I am no fan of the late Senator, but at least he had the honor to serve, unlike Butthead Bonespurs.

Johonny

(21,194 posts)
9. His own chief of staff confirmed the statement
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:50 PM
Monday

Whereas Trump lies all the time. Let him sue and lose. Leave the truth up.

agingdem

(7,944 posts)
42. He also told John Kelly Hitler "did some good things"...
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:21 PM
Monday

and remember Trump's "losers" and "suckers" comments were part of a conversation he had with John Kelly, a Gold Star father...

surfered

(824 posts)
11. Trump claims only a "psycho" or a "very stupid person" would've made such statements.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:07 PM
Monday

Well, Hell has frozen over boys and girls, because I agree with Trump on this...a psycho and a very stupid person did make those statement.


MagickMuffin

(16,091 posts)
12. "These people are suckers and losers, the dead soldiers from World War I,''
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:07 PM
Monday


World War I, I think President Biden just made his point!


IbogaProject

(2,941 posts)
13. Sue if you can disprove it TSF
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:19 PM
Monday

If you can't prove you didnt say it when we have proof you've said very similar things than tough beans Mr Felon.

texasfiddler

(2,002 posts)
14. Ad makes Biden look strong and the response by tRump is weak and whiny.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:22 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Good to see magats on defense. More please.

tinrobot

(10,980 posts)
15. He's been forced to play defense. Never good in a political campaign.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:28 PM
Monday

The Biden team needs to keep up the pressure.

markodochartaigh

(1,277 posts)
18. Since Sir Francis Bacon "Slander boldly, something always sticks"
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:34 PM
Monday

has been a common political dictum. It is great seeing that telling the truth boldly can be just as effective.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
69. Like LBJ and calling his opponent a Goat-F'er
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:41 AM
Tuesday

Bold slander that stuck because it made people wonder. 'It can't be true, but...what if it is?'

BoRaGard

(575 posts)
19. The draft-dodging republican felon wants what?
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:36 PM
Monday

the more the republicans whine about this the more people know the horrible thing the Convicted Republican Felon said about America's soldiers.

GB_RN

(2,540 posts)
24. Pfft.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:50 PM
Monday

Fuck off, dick.

Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent is just mad that his own words are being used against him. 😁

lark

(23,355 posts)
68. Wow, that's a new name, and it's so perfect!!
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:30 AM
Tuesday

Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent is amazingly fitting for tcf (the criminal felon). I may use this when I feel like waxing elogquent! lol

GB_RN

(2,540 posts)
71. Have At It!
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:45 AM
Tuesday

I came up with Cantaloupe Caligula first. Yesterday, it hit me that I could make an alliteration with it by adding “the Corpulent,” and still be quite the accurate description of him.

By all means, feel free to use and share!😁

Lovie777

(12,754 posts)
25. shithole said it.....................
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:52 PM
Monday

he's said a lot of crappy shit. Lies, threatens, talks about violence and hatred, towards others everything that JC would not do.

Irish_Dem

(50,303 posts)
27. Trump loves to slander and defame others.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:54 PM
Monday

But when people tell the truth about him, he is furious and demands a retraction.

sop

(10,593 posts)
53. Trump never retracted all those full-page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park Five.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:45 PM
Monday
 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
70. He not only refused to retract it
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:43 AM
Tuesday

He doubled down on it.

That's why I said to do the same to him. He's mad that Biden used his own words against him?

Double down by finding some more in the same vein to use against him.

BaronChocula

(1,732 posts)
48. OK, so someone else besides me
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:39 PM
Monday

and Robert DeNiro in "This Boy's Life" knows that expression. That made my birthday.

BaronChocula

(1,732 posts)
84. Well,
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:06 PM
Tuesday

I was relieved that a work standoff was resolved (by me caving, whaddaya gonna do) and Some El Pollo Loco for dinner. At my age, I guess it's a pretty good birthday.

Thank you for the wishes!

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
73. My grand-da used to say that all the time
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:47 AM
Tuesday

When my brothers or I said we wanted something unreasonable. Mum and her brothers said he used it all the time with them, too, and they were born between 1924 - 1939.

So it's been around for a very long time.

CoopersDad

(2,234 posts)
32. Obviously, this is what Biden ads need to repeat over and over.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:58 PM
Monday

In my own local activist battles, the bad guys often signal whatever it is I've found that damages them the most.

And that's how I know what has been most effective, and I've used it to good effect.

Make him even crazier, hit him where it hurts then hit him again.

ShazzieB

(16,964 posts)
43. If he has a problem with the "losers" & "suckers" quotes, he needs to take it up with the Atlantic for publishing them.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:22 PM
Monday

He probably didn't think there was anything wrong with what he said...until those words were used against him in a Biden ad and he realized they could damage him. Eat your heart out, Orange Hellbeast!

Rhiannon12866

(209,291 posts)
47. According to Mary Trump's book, at one point Junior announced that he was considering joining the military
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:32 PM
Monday

And his father responded that they would "disown him."

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,239 posts)
54. The sick fuck can demand all he wants
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:47 PM
Monday

That is a very powerful ad.

Joe is going to use his words against him in ads from here on out.

Emrys

(7,361 posts)
61. What's that, Donny?
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:26 PM
Monday

You want the ad taken down that quotes you, fearful of getting your elaborate hairstyle wet, describing war graves as “filled with losers” (unlike you, who famously boasted that you fulfilled your national service through the selfless winning sacrifice of trying to lay as many misguided women as possible despite the heightened risk of AIDS at the time) and that time you as commander-in-chief called loyal but dead marines “suckers” and that time you said of POWs that you preferred those who “weren’t captured”?

You want the one quoting you complaining that war graves were “filled with losers”, calling marines “suckers” and disrespecting POWs taken down?

That one?

OK, I remember those episodes clearly now. After everything else you've been up to in the mean time, they seem almost quaint.

Yeah, they'd better do that before anyone else is reminded of what you said. I'm sure they'll get right onto that.

whopis01

(3,555 posts)
67. No one is claiming Trump "stood over the graves of soldiers"
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 06:36 AM
Tuesday

and called them losers and suckers.


Trump refused to go to the cemetery, so he couldn’t possibly have stood over their graves when he called them losers and suckers.

DENVERPOPS

(9,110 posts)
72. Trump can sure bet
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:46 AM
Tuesday

there will be tens of millions standing over and around his grave! So much they will have to install large area drains in the grass around his tomb stone........

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
74. Yeah, we are accusing him of doing it over their graves
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:57 AM
Tuesday

Because he did. He said one of his loathsome remarks about the military dead to John Kelly at Arlington National Cemetery--over the grave of Kelly's son killed in Afghanistan, no less.

On Memorial Day 2017, Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, a short drive from the White House. He was accompanied on this visit by John Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, and who would, a short time later, be named the White House chief of staff. The two men were set to visit Section 60, the 14-acre area of the cemetery that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars. Kelly’s son Robert is buried in Section 60. A first lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Robert Kelly was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan. He was 29. Trump was meant, on this visit, to join John Kelly in paying respects at his son’s grave, and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources with knowledge of this visit, Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Kelly (who declined to comment for this story) initially believed, people close to him said, that Trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices.

“He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself,” one of Kelly’s friends, a retired four-star general, told me. “He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There’s no money in serving the nation.” Kelly’s friend went on to say, “Trump can’t imagine anyone else’s pain. That’s why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he’s buried.”

https://archive.ph/eRtK2#selection-967.0-967.1192

Mike Nelson

(10,048 posts)
76. Let me guess...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 10:08 AM
Tuesday

... Crooked Donald is upset because he did not mean "dead soldiers," and meant it to be "all soldiers"?

Martin68

(23,390 posts)
80. LOL! Trump is whining that Biden is telling the truth about him while he lies daily about Biden.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:34 AM
Tuesday

A true narcissist.

Jimvanhise

(315 posts)
81. HOW ABOUT AN AD OF TRUMP MOCKING JOHN McCAIN?
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:38 AM
Tuesday

On video Trump mocked John McCain's military service (he was a POW for 5 years) and said, "I like people who don't get captured" which doesn't even make any sense and Trump has never explained it or apologized to McCain's family.

notKeith

(142 posts)
83. Go ahead...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:39 PM
Tuesday

... you stupid fuck! You moron Mango Mussolini!
Why don't you sue the Biden adminstration, I dunno, maybe for slander, libel or defamation?
I think you should go that route if what you say (now) is accurate, that you NEVER said those things.
I would ** LOVE ** to see the discovery on that lawsuit - oh mah gawd.

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