'Corrupt lunatic': Jaws drop at latest Clarence Thomas dissent

[Tom of Temecula]

The United States Supreme Court on Friday ruled in an 8-1 vote that the government had the right to restrict access to firearms for alleged domestic abusers. However, there was one notable dissent in the ruling: Justice Clarence Thomas.

As flagged by Slate's Mark Joseph Stern, Thomas argued that all regulations of firearms should be deemed in violation of the Second Amendment "unless it is consistent with the Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation."

Thomas then claimed that there is "not a single historical regulation" that "justifies the statute at issue." Commenting on this, Stern said that Thomas seemed to be arguing that restricting abusers' access to firearms was off-limits because "wife-beating was not generally a crime" at the time of the country's founding in the 18th Century.

Stern was not the only observer to express shock at the logic behind Thomas' ruling. "And Thomas’s dissent is utterly ridiculous and disingenuous," argued former tennis star Martina Navratilova. He is a disgrace to our highest court. Anita Hill should have been believed!!!"

https://www.alternet.org/clarence-thomas-dissent/

[BlueKota]

1. Martina is right about Anita Hill

[Deuxcents]

3. Yes. Anita Hill tried to warn us of Thomas and Hillary tried to warn us of Alito. Both were right but here we are

[TSExile]

29. ...and Dr. Christine Blasey Ford tried to warn about Kavanaugh.

Imagine the country - and world - today, if these women had been listened to and taken seriously instead of ridiculed and believed!! 💔

[Deuxcents]

30. Absolutely 👍

[Joinfortmill]

2. Yup, He's not pretending anymore.

[Blue Owl]

4. Fuck Long Dong Silver and the Coke can his pubic hair rode in on

[moonshinegnomie]

14. you mean pindick....

[Blue Owl]

15. LOL

Only someone with small dick energy would need to call himself "Long Dong Silver"

[lavoosh99]

42. Reminds me of an old expression:

Needledick the bugfucker.

[Evolve Dammit]

58. THAT alone was overwhelmingly convincing. You can't make shit like that up. That was reality.

[MagickMuffin]

5. Then by his logic, ALL firearms should be banned

As they were NOT included in the Constitution.

Single shot long guns that must be reloaded using a plunger.

Yea no more automatic weapons of mass destruction!


Thank you Clarence for clarifying this important factor of the 2nd amendment.

[cayugafalls]

16. Black Powder Muskets require training, hence, Well Regulated Militia.

Handling black powder is dangerous and you do need to take care…just saying

[Mme. Defarge]

34. Yes, 3 words the "originalists" have either ignored

or haven’t seemed to have noticed -
“well regulated militia”.

[dchill]

68. A "well regulated militia" is DEFINITELY not part of their equation.

[aggiesal]

36. In the Federalist Papers (#28 & #45) I believe, but I might be off +/- 1 ...

where the 2nd amendment was debated, the founding fathers felt that the militia had a reputation of not aiming very well and that they were the first to retreat. So in the Federalist Papers, they mentioned that a well regulated militia would have to report for training once a month (or once a year), to improve their sharpshooting skills and have discipline to not retreat.
This is similar to today's State Guard & National Guard having to report 1 weekend a month for training.

This is why I say, that if you want a gun, join the Guard.

[Wednesdays]

39. George Washington himself said,

"To rely on militia is like relying on a broken staff."

[The Mouth]

35. The problem is that it treats an *accusation* as a conviction

So, just because some random person *accuses* you of something you can now lose a Constitutional right?

[MagickMuffin]

40. What? I didn't say anything about the accusations

🤷🏼‍♀️

[Pinback]

61. Restraining order, not just accusation

https://www.alternet.org/expert-major-loss-scotus/

Only after an alleged domestic violence victim has gone through the hoops of obtaining a restraining order can the alleged abuser have their 2A rights restricted. All but one SCOTUS justice agree that’s a sufficiently high bar to restrict the sacred right to keep and bear arms. Many lives can be saved as a result.

[The Mouth]

71. Thank you for the clarification.

As I've said elsewhere, the preponderance of evidence required should be equal to that of a Felony conviction. Just as with speech or voting, the presumption should be innocence until proved otherwise.

[Hekate]

63. This worries you personally? Because that is not how I read it.

[The Mouth]

70. Any infringement of any right in the Constitution, anywhere, for any reason

with any less evidence than needed to secure a CONVICTION in a court of law worries me.

Sure, there are some nutters who shouldn't have guns (or vote, or drive, or have children). The standard to legally declare a person as such should be the same legal standard as needed to put someone away for 25-life or get a death penalty.

[edisdead]

72. Are you allowed to walk around freely in all cases before conviction?

[The Mouth]

79. Nope. And that is the standard of evidence for any suspension of any right

Would there be enough evidence to hold without bail.

[rampartc]

82. beyond a reasonable doubt?

a conviction?

on something like this, "red flag," preponderance of evidence should be enough.

but the point is, a hearing is held, there is due process.

[Attilatheblond]

69. Walk up to a mental health care professional evaluator (paid to fill beds) and say, "I feel like I wanna die"

and see how fast your rights can disappear.

[Mr.Bee]

53. The Second Ammendment clearly states:

Evabody Getta Gun!

[Delmette2.0]

65. And women would know what herbs to gather

and have on hand to make her late period happen. And she could help her neighbor who is also late.

[rubbersole]

6. Ginni must like it rough.

[LastDemocratInSC]

11. Maybe Clarence likes it rough, too.

[Raven123]

7. Thomas is trying to motivate TFG's base. Nothing more

His career is tanking. Whatever legacy he thought he might leave as a “conservative “ jurist has been unmasked as a bought and paid for political tool.

[Attilatheblond]

44. No more big bribes for him

He has drawn too much attention to his indiscretions so his time on the auction block is over. Miss Ginni must be so sad.

[not fooled]

24. Crow should just don Thomas's robes and take his seat in the SC

Might as well make it official. Same results in terms of votes.

Oh, and I think senators who voted to seat Thomas and Kavanaugh did believe the women who brought accusations against those nominees. The senators just didn't care.

[llmart]

9. He's another one I'd like to see meet his maker...

sooner rather than later. Take the Herman Cain train with his buddy TSF and really make our country great again.

[stopdiggin]

10. not sure if this is properly defined as 'textualism' or 'originalism'

but what is most certainly is (even in the eyes of other justices) - is EXTREMISM !

That is all ...

[thesquanderer]

12. Our nation has a "historical tradition" of preventing black people from owning firearms.

so if Thomas' qualifier is "unless it is consistent with the Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation," I guess he'd be okay with preventing gun sales to black people...?

[Abolishinist]

21. Perhaps it's also time to revisit Loving v. Virginia?

[edisdead]

73. I believe he is totally onboard with that

It wont make a difference for him

[Abolishinist]

84. You might be right about that!

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[Baitball Blogger]

13. Twenty years from now, law schools are going to have a class on the inappropriate method known as

hystorical, er historical, strict constriction, er, construction. and original intent.

The first lesson in that class: If the framers had intended to keep your feet to the fire with original intent, they wouldn't have provided us with a process to amend the Constitution.

[edisdead]

74. You assume we will have any sort of real education 20 years from now.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. Corrupt Clearance Thomas is not fit for any bench.

[Comfortably_Numb]

18. Stephen is determined not to let that billionaire teat dry up. Motor coaches don't fund themselves.

And only plebes fly commercial.

[hay rick]

19. Disingenuous?

Maybe he just wants to say "I can do anything I want and you can't stop me."

[Trust_Reality]

81. Yes. He is either petty or stupid.

Most likely petty at this point in time.

[Tarzanrock]

20. Last time I looked at the law -- accepting "bribes" was a Federal Crime.

The question is: why hasn't Thomas and Alito's bribe taking crimes been brought before a Federal Grand Jury for criminal indictments? Who among us has received a $280,000 motorhome as a "gift" from a billionaire Oligarch or "luxury" vacations to exotic places "free" of charge from people who are not family or even remotely related to us? When was the last time someone offered you a "free" all expenses paid trip on a private jet airplane to some exotic place or a "luxury" cruise on a Mega-yacht to some South Sea Islands? When is the U.S. Justice Department going to "connect these dots" and figure it out that these are "illegal" bribes and that the criminals who accept these "bribes" need to be prosecuted?

[DENVERPOPS]

31. The Justice Dept

won't even exist if Trump wins the election. Along with any and all regulatory agencies..........

The U.S. will quickly go back to a combination of the "Gilded Age, Robber Barrons, and the Wild Wild West"

[Paladin]

22. Anita Hill WAS believed. By millions of us.

Not that it ultimately mattered. Thomas got on the Court, and he turned out to be exactly the sort of lying sack-of-shit "Justice" that millions of us knew he would be.

[Hekate]

64. I believed Dr. Anita Hil --& I really resented the hell out of the way the Senators called him "Judge" &her "Miss Hill"

[oasis]

23. An MSNBC commentator brought up

the fact that domestic abuse statutes didn’t exist at the time the 2nd amendment was established.
So ClarenceThomas drew his dissenting argument straight out of his ass .

[flying_wahini]

25. What's is going to have to happen before we can be rid of him?

[Traildogbob]

27. Beware

If Trump is re appointed by Pootie Poo, Thomas will retire and Loose Cannon will be seated, as promised by the billionaire SC selection committee.

[cbj1958]

26. Soooo, he's also in the NRA's pocket?

His dissent is so ridiculous that he might have been on drugs when he wrote it. "Someone" must be pulling his strings.

[ProfessorGAC]

52. Welcome To DU

Good first post!

[edisdead]

75. I feel like this was a foregone conclusion.

Welcs to DU

[JT45242]

28. so the vote is really 5 to 3/5ths then Clarence

At the time of the Bill or Rights and the Constiutution -- NOne of the women could vote and Clarence only counts as 3/5 of a person.

What a worthless corrupt POS this guy is.

[LisaM]

32. It wasn't a "crime" because wife beating was legal then.

Does he think (he probably does) that it shouldn't be a crime NOW?

[judesedit]

33. Funny how "well-regulated" is constantly ignored

[WestMichRad]

37. Clarence Thomas is Exhibit #1...

… to show how lifetime appointments to judicial positions must end. The supposed accountability via impeachment has become a political impossibility.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

38. Thomas needs to retire

Link to tweet

[jaxexpat]

41. Thomas is just a "kicker" in the five-card majority hand dealt us from the stacked deck of the electoral college.

Remember all those years he was known as the silent one? People didn't even know if he could talk, much less read. Well, since they've dumbed down the USSC, he's out and proud. These days, considering himself to be no dumber than the rest of the "W. and Trump" inmates, he dissents, glowers and chatters and has a crazy wife bouncing off the walls in public. He has bloomed.......... and, you guessed it, he's a corpse lily. You can tell by the smell. Been one all along, apparently, loved by vultures the world over.

[Demovictory9]

43. He voted however Scalia voted back then

Remember all those years he was known as the silent one?

[jaxexpat]

50. He was a Scalia's legendary ass kisser, for sure.

It made Scalia seem a lot more important than he really was because his POV could be counted as 2 votes every time. All he had to do was whistle. It's pathetic and there's still people who worship these clowns. Surely, it's obvious by now that a seat on the USSC doesn't automatically have anything to do with justice.

[cactusfractal]

45. Know what else wasn't a crime in 1789?

Owning Black humans and using them as livestock. And in 1791, they didn't go out of their way to teach livestock the law, did they?

So if you really want to go all Originalist...

[OMGWTF]

46. Okay Uncle Thomas, a black man couldn't be married to a white woman

or be a SCOTUS justice in the 1700s either.

[bluestarone]

47. He's one of many that i pray

for NATURAL DEATH every day!

[AllaN01Bear]

48. im being polite here . snork and humbug .

[kimbutgar]

49. I am anxiously waiting for the karmic payback of this jerk !

It can’t happen soon enough!

[pwb]

51. Master Crow demanded it.

What a disgrace this piece of shit is.

[DallasNE]

54. Looking Back At The Bump Stock Decision,

Last edited Sun Jun 23, 2024, 08:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Justice Thomas recently wrote the majority opinion that bump stocks shall not be classified as machine guns because they "cannot fire more than one shot 'by a single function of the trigger.' But that is only the first part of the definition under "machine gun". It continues by saying "the term (machinegun) shall also include .. any part designed and intended solely and exclusively .. for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun". That precisely defines a bump stock.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5845

[azureblue]

55. precedent

There is no precedent, outside of the 2nd Amendment, and it clearly says "well trained militia" which means, in context, you must belong to a well trained militia to own a firearm. But they ignore that condition.

Uncle Tom is making it up as he goes.

[Martin68]

57. Unfit to sit on the court.

[myohmy2]

59. uncle thomas...

...has done it again...

...what else would you expect from a right-wing political hack...???

...

[Docreed2003]

60. I've never liked the term "originalist" when it comes to interpretation of constitutional law

First of all, it's an idiotic, pseudo-intellectual term that is outlandish on its face. The Constitution was designed to be amended and updated. Second, if only "originalism" is valid, why the hell is Thomas sitting on the bench? Shouldn't he know that his voice is only counted as a partial person? The people who call themselves "originalist" are no different that people who claim to believe the Bible as the "inerrant word of God". What they really mean is they believe the parts they've chosen to believe with the intent of using the words as a cudgel against anyone who stands against them.

[Traurigkeit]

62. Clarence would never dare raise a hand or even think of repremanding Ginny. He'd get slapped down so hard by Ginny

What a hollow person he keeps proving to be

[Jacson6]

66. Right. The first amendment doesn't allow libel, but the 2nd amendment is a suicide pact. N/T

[Pluvious]

67. You know what else was illegal at the time? Interracial marriage

Maybe, he believes that he is a white person 🤔

[Mysterian]

76. Thomas is the epitome of evil

He has no goodness or decency.

[Janbdwl72]

77. Has Doubting Thomas ever done anything at all for black citizens

He is so far out of touch it is pathetic.

[usaf-vet]

78. He only bows to the history that benefits his warped beliefs. Where are the militias from the 2nd Amendment?

[Trust_Reality]

80. Add Thomas and his reasoning to the list of exhibits illustrating "Actual Stupidity"

Video by Lincoln Project
(I highly recommend that video be widely distributed.)

[Skittles]

83. is he aware of other stuff that wasn't generally a crime back then?

WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM