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orangecrush

(20,959 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:14 PM Jun 28

Will we see a shakeup of Joe's campaign staff? (Poll)

Take this as criticism from an armchair, but why they let him take the stage as ill as he was perplexes me.

If they had rescheduled due to the flu or whatever, the blowback would be nowhere close to what we are going to get now in the way of ads showing clips from the debate.

Again, I'm just talking out my ass, but I wonder if heads will roll.


32 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, somebody really dropped the ball putting it mildly
25 (78%)
No, they did a great job
0 (0%)
They are pros, who the hell are you
2 (6%)
CNN's production crew (cameras, lighting, sound) were coached by someone
1 (3%)
It is what it is. Spilled milk, etc.
0 (0%)
Ask me when I get out of fetal position
2 (6%)
Why are my eyes so red and head feels like an anvil?
0 (0%)
Making sure my passport is in order
1 (3%)
Did something happen?
0 (0%)
Shut up, orange
1 (3%)
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Will we see a shakeup of Joe's campaign staff? (Poll) (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 28 OP
Should have rested Joe and his voice. Kid Berwyn Jun 28 #1
True orangecrush Jun 28 #3
This was Biden's call Fiendish Thingy Jun 28 #2
I believe orangecrush Jun 28 #4
Yep. Very sadly, his lack of ability to recognize this is part of the big concern RiverStone Jun 28 #6
I suspect he took some NyQuil or something similar to ease his cold symptoms. Elessar Zappa Jun 28 #8
100% true Polybius Jun 28 #9
12 years is a long time. jimfields33 Jun 28 #10
He has a great staff by all accounts BeyondGeography Jun 28 #5
Respectfully disagree orangecrush Jun 28 #14
You can have the best strategy in the world TheFarseer Jun 28 #7
because somebody besides Joe was up at that lectern? stopdiggin Jun 28 #11
Congrats on 20,000! quaint Jun 28 #12
Wow orangecrush Jun 28 #16
I'm going with "Robb is a dingbat" KentuckyWoman Jun 28 #13
Not blaming Joe at all. orangecrush Jun 28 #15

Kid Berwyn

(17,031 posts)
1. Should have rested Joe and his voice.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:19 PM
Jun 28

To be honest: Tired and old is not a good look.

Just for that, the chief of debate prep should be busted down to gopher.

Someone should have prepped Joe on projection -- it's what stage actors (and clowns, thanks Donnie Dipwad!) do.

Don't fire the former CoDP, as the new gopher might come up with an idea to make up for the error.

Fiendish Thingy

(17,291 posts)
2. This was Biden's call
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:19 PM
Jun 28

Biden signed off on this decision, and then he , for whatever reason, failed to deliver.

To point the finger at staff would be an abdication of responsibility on Joe’s part.

orangecrush

(20,959 posts)
4. I believe
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:23 PM
Jun 28

Joe took the advice of the team.

Perhaps they were so eager to see the results of their coaching win, they ignored other factors, we'll never know.

RiverStone

(7,237 posts)
6. Yep. Very sadly, his lack of ability to recognize this is part of the big concern
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:34 PM
Jun 28

We all have bad days or nights, and Joe at his worst is a far cry better than the orange fascist. Though it does not take being a Dr. to see that for whatever reason, President Biden was greatly diminished physically (and it impacted his thinking).

Elessar Zappa

(15,112 posts)
8. I suspect he took some NyQuil or something similar to ease his cold symptoms.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jun 28

That kinda med can hit the elderly hard.

TheFarseer

(9,424 posts)
7. You can have the best strategy in the world
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:39 PM
Jun 28

And if you can’t execute it, it’s not the coach’s fault. You can say you should have a different strategy, but honestly, what strategy do you really think Joe could have executed at a high level?

stopdiggin

(12,362 posts)
11. because somebody besides Joe was up at that lectern?
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:50 PM
Jun 28

sorry - this 'find someone to blame' finger pointing is (IMO) a game played by the craven and sycophant.

And, knowing my Joe - he'd probably be the first one to say ...

quaint

(3,180 posts)
12. Congrats on 20,000!
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:49 PM
Jun 28

And I'll stick my small foot in my big mouth and say...the debate preparers knew what the format was but coached long answers.

orangecrush

(20,959 posts)
15. Not blaming Joe at all.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jun 28

He was obviously sick, his mike volume was half of Trump's to the point where I was straining to hear him, while Dumps big mouth blew me out of my chair, and they cued Joe to look at the wrong cameras so it appeared he was never speaking to the viewers. No such problem with Trump.
I almost had to buy a new t.v., as I had the definite impression CNN ratfucked Joe.

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