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babylonsister

(171,942 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:39 AM Jun 2024

The Rude Pundit: Are We Really That Fucked After Last Night's Debate?

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2024/06/are-we-really-that-fucked-after-last.html

The Rude Pundit
Proudly lowering the level of political discourse
6/28/2024
Are We Really That Fucked After Last Night's Debate?


Yeah, I'll get to Biden, but the thing that needs to be hammered over and over is how much Donald Trump flat-out, blatantly, willfully, unapologetically lied every time he opened his filthy fucking mouth at last night's first presidential debate. He lied about the economy, he lied about Covid, he lied about immigration, he lied about abortion, he lied about January 6, he lied about his legal cases, he lied about NATO, he lied and he lied and then he lied some more. He lied as if lies were air and water and food. He lied as if lies were pussies out there for the grabbing. He lied as if his dick was made of lies and he could fuck the truth to death. He lied like lies were his name that he could plaster over anything and claim it was his. It was almost breathtaking to behold someone for whom the truth and reality are mere inconveniences to be washed away by his torrent of lies and then to think that he has a very real shot of becoming president. Even worse, he has a real shot at becoming president again. Trump is a fraud, a disgrace, and a motherfucker of unquenchable appetites, but goddamn if he doesn't know that there are plenty of voters who want to hear a lie told arrogantly, with braggadocio and bluster, than hear the truth told quietly.

Why would anyone who does live in a world of observable and demonstrable facts trust a single word Trump says? Imagine being a US ally and hearing Trump repeat all these lies again and again. You'd be a fool to take him at his word on anything. You'd be a fool to put the safety of your nation and the world in his hands. I don't have to imagine being an American and knowing that my president is lying so copiously that it makes all the other lying presidents look like goddamn angels. It strips away any sense of security and stability. And, sorry, that's way more fucking frightening than Biden's age.

And I know, I know, I fucking know that both sides agreed to the rules for the debate, and one of those rules was no fact-checking. But CNN did a disservice to the nation by not once insisting that the candidates, especially Trump, stay in the realm of what's real. Traditional fact-checking would be "You said the United States has spent $200 billion on Ukraine. The real number is $110 billion." That's straightforward and, sure, it's the kind of shit that can wait until after the debate. But Trump was up there accusing Biden of taking money from China. He still insisted that the 2020 election was fraudulent. Those are big picture kinds of things that deserve some fucking slap down from the moderators. You're allowed to say, "Mr. Trump, you're factually wrong that you won the last presidential race." You're allowed to say, "No one is allowed to murder a baby after it's been born." That's not "fact-checking." That's "reality-affirming."

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Look, Biden had a terrible night. The rasping, the confused answers, the inability to respond clearly. It was a disaster, and we don't need to sugarcoat that. But the whole thing was a disaster. It was honestly depressing that we have to contemplate Trump being reelected. What kind of stupid fucking country would elect a convicted felon with up to three trials and at least two appeals coming up? The stupidest kind, that's who. And Trump calling Biden a criminal was fucking absurd. Trump was allowed to be at the debate because he's fucking out on fucking bail. And all that criminality got almost no mention except for a single question, as if the moderators were ignoring those facts, including that Trump's a fucking rapist. How come no one is pressuring Republicans to get the convicted felon and rapist who's out on bail to drop out? We should be constantly appalled by the idea that Trump is running and he has so much support, despite his crimes.

Frankly, that's the most degrading part of this whole fucking race, not Biden acting his age.
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The Rude Pundit: Are We Really That Fucked After Last Night's Debate? (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2024 OP
I've seen different versions of this meme underpants Jun 2024 #1
K and FUCKING R Blue Owl Jun 2024 #2
That 1st paragraph is a barn-burner intrepidity Jun 2024 #3
No one can burn a barn like Rude! Chris will break the bleep button tomorrow when yellowdogintexas Jun 2024 #8
Tell me your name is Anita! rubbersole Jun 2024 #12
Yes, we should! Bettie Jun 2024 #21
No I am not Anita (From San Antone, I presume) but I sure would like to meet her!! yellowdogintexas Jul 2024 #24
Wonderful! rubbersole Jul 2024 #25
And just like that, The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2024 #4
K&R for R.P. !!!! Martin Eden Jun 2024 #5
They don't understand. bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #6
You REALLY understand what's going on. Frank D. Lincoln Jun 2024 #9
Why there isn't pressure on Trump to resign? First of all, a loss for Trump leads to time in prison. 3Hotdogs Jun 2024 #7
Kick dalton99a Jun 2024 #10
Yes, yes, yes, and yes! Seinan Sensei Jun 2024 #11
i didnt watch it and im only getting bits and pieces of what the media samnsara Jun 2024 #13
Trump's lies were not lies to them, they have been brainwashed doc03 Jun 2024 #14
Yep, and not calling out the lies helps to normalize and confirm them Ohioboy Jun 2024 #19
They live in a bubble that they confuse with reality. Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #20
K&R with gusto! mountain grammy Jun 2024 #15
Replace debate for her emails. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #16
Amen, brother. Amen Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #17
What a great rant, I'm feeling a little bit better. Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #18
Answer to your question, No. IMO republianmushroom Jun 2024 #22
a friend of mine has a private facebook group for people he knows who are dems, liberals, progressives. orleans Jun 2024 #23

yellowdogintexas

(23,154 posts)
8. No one can burn a barn like Rude! Chris will break the bleep button tomorrow when
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:37 AM
Jun 2024

Rude does his rant on Stephanie Miller!!!

yellowdogintexas

(23,154 posts)
24. No I am not Anita (From San Antone, I presume) but I sure would like to meet her!!
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jul 2024

Yes we need our own forum!!! I know there are a number of us.

I am so excited!! I'm going to Sexy Liberal in Phoenix in September, and taking my daughter with me for a full immersion into StephWorld. I even splurged on the VIP ticket!!!
Representing Tarrant County Democratic Woman's Club and all Texas Women.

rubbersole

(9,608 posts)
25. Wonderful!
Tue Jul 2, 2024, 01:44 AM
Jul 2024

You'll have a great time! Her Atlanta show is as close as she gets to central Florida. Dana Goldberg's mom lives in Phoenix so you might get another surprise headliner. Steph-heads are fortunate to have a humorous way to get all the crappy news on a daily basis. 👋

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
4. And just like that,
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:02 AM
Jun 2024

Rude P puts his finger on the pulse of what is so sickening about our era: millions and millions of drumphian fucking sheep who would rather hear bald-ass lies spewed from a rapist foghorn, than the truth spoken quietly from an honorable man who has ALWAYS been willing to reach across the aisle.
I’ll share my foxhole with Rude P any day.

bucolic_frolic

(49,489 posts)
6. They don't understand.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:10 AM
Jun 2024

SCOTUS is aligned. Project 2025 is ready. Congressional Republicans are on board. Red state governors and AGs are supporting the operation. Cheeto is the essential front man for the looting operation to begin! M$Greedia is bought off, they even get some of the profits. Stealing everything the nation owns and everything its citizens possess, or much of it, will be very profitable! This is friendly fascism! Smile, and have a good day!

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
9. You REALLY understand what's going on.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:39 AM
Jun 2024

If Trump does win in November, it'll be because not enough Democrats express those views on a daily basis. It's our duty as real patriots to make our fellow Americans understand the gravity of the situation we're in.

But yes, the bottom line is that a Trump win is about the full implementation of fascism in America, even more so than the Christian nationalist agenda, which is also horrible. The implementation of fascism is the primary reason that Project 2025 was funded by far-right billionaires. They expect a return on their investment if Trump wins.

3Hotdogs

(14,038 posts)
7. Why there isn't pressure on Trump to resign? First of all, a loss for Trump leads to time in prison.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:12 AM
Jun 2024

He can grant himself a pardon as president. ---yeah, we don't know if Sammy and Clarence will uphold that. But ....

Secondly, Trump winning = more opportunity for grift.

All the people around Trump are supporting him. He only hears the cheers and sees the dumb-ass hats at his rallies.

He believe there is no reason for him to back out.

Joe, o.t.o.h., if he looks at the video of the debate, he has to ask himself, by staying in the race, am I putting the nation in jeopardy of another Trump presidency?

One candidate has honor. The other candidate...... (See the o.p.).

Seinan Sensei

(924 posts)
11. Yes, yes, yes, and yes!
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 08:40 AM
Jun 2024

EVERYBODY on MSM is laser-focused on President Biden's "performance."
Almost NOBODY even mentions TSF's Gish-Gallop, his firehose of lies.
And more lies.
And even more lies ...

samnsara

(18,454 posts)
13. i didnt watch it and im only getting bits and pieces of what the media
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:04 AM
Jun 2024

..and others say. None of it is my impression since I refused to watch something thats nothing more than a wrestling match where the biggest and loudest always win .


Thus..my impression of Joe is exactly what it was at 6 pm Thursday.

doc03

(37,630 posts)
14. Trump's lies were not lies to them, they have been brainwashed
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 09:19 AM
Jun 2024

to believe an alternate set of facts.

Ohioboy

(3,609 posts)
19. Yep, and not calling out the lies helps to normalize and confirm them
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 10:44 AM
Jun 2024

The cult of MAGA is totally brainwashed.

orleans

(35,834 posts)
23. a friend of mine has a private facebook group for people he knows who are dems, liberals, progressives.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:58 PM
Jun 2024

the group has 200 members.
anyway, i thought this essay/writing was very good and so i posted the second to last paragraph (why i'll support biden) with a link to the rest of the piece. right away fb was shutting that post down, saying it was spam and i was just trying to get likes which is bullshit b/c there are only 200 people in the group, and my fb page is not public, and i only have around 30 fb "friends" and half of them are dead.
so i'm posting rude's piece to spam all these people and to try and get likes?

fb has pulled this crap on me a couple timesk lately, one was when i did a screengrab of the aclu tweet saying they were gonna sue lousiana over that 10 commandments crap in the classroom. fb said i was "cloaking" my post to get likes and that it was spam.

i think fb is using too many A.I. bots with their botty heads up their botty asses.

anyway, i really liked rude's essay you posted. thanks.

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