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babylonsister

(172,601 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:38 AM Jul 2024

GOP Rep Delivers a House Floor Speech Straight Out of 'The Handmaid's Tale'



GOP Rep Delivers a House Floor Speech Straight Out of ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’
BLESSED BE THE FRUIT
In a speech before the House that seemed lifted right out of Margaret Atwood’s dystopian classic, Rep. Glenn Grothman said he wants the U.S. to go back to 1960.
Anna Conkling
Published Jul. 12, 2024 7:00AM EDT


Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) on Thursday accused “the angry feminist movement” of emasculating men and said the U.S. should “work our way back” to 1960 if former President Donald Trump wins in November.

In a House floor speech that could have been lifted from Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale, Grothman went after supporters of government-funded childcare programs and said President Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty “took the purpose out of the man’s life, because now you have a basket of goodies for the mom.” He added, “They’ve taken away the purpose of the man to be part of a family. And if we want to get America back to, say, 1960, where this was almost unheard of, we have to fundamentally change these programs.”

Grothman said “the breakdown of the family” was caused by the U.S. government in the 1960s and “people like Angela Davis, well-known communist, people like the feminists who were so important in the 1960s.”

“So I hope the press corps picks up on this, and I hope Republican and Democrat leadership put together some sort of plan for January, in which we work our way back to where America was in the 1960s,” he added.

more...

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GOP Rep Delivers a House Floor Speech Straight Out of 'The Handmaid's Tale' (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2024 OP
Poor wittle fella, are all those nasty feminists emasculating you? Walleye Jul 2024 #1
More like 1860. Liberal In Texas Jul 2024 #2
Take the "1" off that number, and you be even closer. GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #10
With these guys you probably need to add "BCE" at the end too! iscooterliberally Jul 2024 #65
Where in the effin' world do they find idiots like him? It's like they have a evil vending machine and by.... machoneman Jul 2024 #3
Since 1973 The Heritage Foundation and other front groups like it have been grooming and financing whole generations Ford_Prefect Jul 2024 #36
It's almost like they seek out the meanest dumbest men to represent the GOP. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #72
Here ya go Grothman. Now suck on it. no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #4
Still butt hurt over JFK winning an election... Hugin Jul 2024 #5
Good lord, the dude was five fricking years old in 1960. Hugin Jul 2024 #8
This is a very dangerous message and frightens me. These people are the set up for crushing women's rights. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #6
I would Rebl2 Jul 2024 #52
64 years straight back? Climb aboard the clown bus, Glen. Judi Lynn Jul 2024 #7
He probably likes some another features of 1960, madaboutharry Jul 2024 #9
1960 my ass. This fucker wants a redo on the civil rights movement. Autumn Jul 2024 #11
Today's homogenized, conglomerated media will probably "pick up" on the message and aid in the transformation. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #12
Example of Rep Glenn Grothman, doing his best work: Judi Lynn Jul 2024 #13
"he had received complaints about the superstar's performance at the Grammys" Ray Bruns Jul 2024 #41
I guess the GQP women don't mind..................................... Lovie777 Jul 2024 #14
Are you kidding atreides1 Jul 2024 #22
Aww, someone make poor Glenn a sandwich Blue Owl Jul 2024 #15
Lots of jokes in the replies in this thread. This is no joke. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #16
What it really is: Dude remembers the easy life of being... (checking notes) 5 years old ck4829 Jul 2024 #17
snork AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #18
There was nothing great to go back to Progressive dog Jul 2024 #19
Wasn't the Cuyahoga River fire in the 60s? Stuckinthebush Jul 2024 #37
Al Franken pointed out (in one of his books, I think) that the Cuyahoga... keep_left Jul 2024 #55
Whoa! I didn't know that Stuckinthebush Jul 2024 #57
And Manchin is still sore over having to follow EPA restrictions. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #74
It's Worse Than That ProfessorGAC Jul 2024 #62
Wow, I had no idea. I guess the "two times" Franken mentioned were the fires... keep_left Jul 2024 #63
Had To Be Oils ProfessorGAC Jul 2024 #71
Randy Newman wrote a song about it. catbyte Jul 2024 #85
I'm of the generation that helped create that change DavidDvorkin Jul 2024 #20
It's been a while since I heard Angela Davis blamed for all our woes. bluedigger Jul 2024 #21
I know, right? Solly Mack Jul 2024 #35
Crazy dude probably love Anita Bryant. JanMichael Jul 2024 #83
No doubt. Solly Mack Jul 2024 #84
Maybe we should get corporate America to stop working people to death... Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #23
Corporate tax rate in 1960 was 37%; I doubt the elite owners want that back. Ziggysmom Jul 2024 #86
For me, the worst part is this asshole is my congresscritter. Archae Jul 2024 #24
He's dreadful. I met him once at the state capitol AllyCat Jul 2024 #47
So this man doesn't have a wife of his own to give his life purpose. suegeo Jul 2024 #60
Is he sure he meant 1960? Cause women could vote then and we had the pill. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #25
It's not worth bothering to emasculate guys like that; Ocelot II Jul 2024 #26
Something we can all unite against. Thanks for posting Raven123 Jul 2024 #27
Yeah, I'd like to be 5 again.... Maeve Jul 2024 #28
They sure hate women! slightlv Jul 2024 #29
Says Incel who lives/lived with his mom. sybylla Jul 2024 #30
Yeah, another incel mad at the world because women have choices. Dulcinea Jul 2024 #56
Did this guy just make an ad for the Dems? Raven123 Jul 2024 #31
Oh, for the days of the Beaver. 🦫 Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #32
If you think feminism emasculated you... Hieronymus Phact Jul 2024 #33
And it all looks like a Norman Rockwell painting right?? What an asshole. Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #34
Won't somebody please think of all those put-upon straight, white Christain males? Solly Mack Jul 2024 #38
On the other hand AncientOfDays Jul 2024 #39
Milwaukee irish julmur Jul 2024 #40
One of the many ironies in this pathetic speech is the contention that men are less involved in family life now than Martin68 Jul 2024 #42
I think men Rebl2 Jul 2024 #51
Let me translate Wisconsin Republicaneese for you..... TheRealNorth Jul 2024 #61
Well, what was the corporate tax rate in the 60s? nt Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #43
So he watches "Leave it to Beaver" a lot? That's his reality? hadEnuf Jul 2024 #44
He is right to a degree, women have no use for a man like him. nt Bev54 Jul 2024 #45
Don't know Rebl2 Jul 2024 #46
Sure, blame the women for wanting to be heard; for wanting a place at the table of political, economic, & social power. patphil Jul 2024 #48
no, YOU fuck off to 1960 and take your MAGA horde with you eShirl Jul 2024 #49
How he got to Congress, is pure unadulterated Gerrymandering. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #50
Same old I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2024 #53
Strange as it may seem, there are a lot of woman in the republican camp republianmushroom Jul 2024 #54
During the Abolitionist Years. . . Collimator Jul 2024 #69
Wow...a Rush Limpaw redux -- them !@#$ Femi-Nazis allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #58
Is Glenn Grothman married, with a family to give his life purpose? suegeo Jul 2024 #59
Grothman thought he was about to die on the WI capitol lawn in Feb 2011 Model35mech Jul 2024 #64
GOP's Grothman slams 'angry feminist movement,' seeks return to 1960s LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #66
Looks from the background he was babbling to an empty chamber. Boomerproud Jul 2024 #80
Ah, the '60s, when a cancer diagnosis... CBHagman Jul 2024 #67
It is absolutely mind-boggling how many right-wingers are so insecure. alwaysinasnit Jul 2024 #68
wow BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #70
These guys don't know the power of women, but they'll find out! LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #73
LOL... does that include the 90% marginal tax rates, too? n/t TygrBright Jul 2024 #75
☝️☝️ I'm all for it. Hell, I'd settle for going back to 70%. Make the 1% pay their share. crickets Jul 2024 #87
He was at the oldest 15. duncang Jul 2024 #76
Are you bdamomma Jul 2024 #77
1960 elected a Prez who served in our military and did not run away as a coward with fake bone spurs. keithbvadu2 Jul 2024 #78
Louis Gomert with a cheese head. yourout Jul 2024 #79
That really pisses me off. Kath2 Jul 2024 #81
He's a dirty little incel GenThePerservering Jul 2024 #82

Walleye

(43,878 posts)
1. Poor wittle fella, are all those nasty feminists emasculating you?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:42 AM
Jul 2024

So I guess he’s been emasculated since the 1960s. Is he going to be replaced by somebody darker skinned. These people are nuts.

GoCubsGo

(34,685 posts)
10. Take the "1" off that number, and you be even closer.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:54 AM
Jul 2024

Back to the days when women were considered property...

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
3. Where in the effin' world do they find idiots like him? It's like they have a evil vending machine and by....
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:46 AM
Jul 2024

...pushing the buttons another Neanderthal, RW male pops out.

Ford_Prefect

(8,518 posts)
36. Since 1973 The Heritage Foundation and other front groups like it have been grooming and financing whole generations
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:59 AM
Jul 2024

of them to take over local government, state and national legislatures, the GOP and the White House. He is not just one of a few organically stupid jerks in elected office. He is one of thousands of RW true believers you'll find on school boards, city and county commissions, in the many GOP controlled state legislatures and governorships. They are the 3rd generation of what became visible as Newt Gingrich's Party of NO, followed by the Tea Party, and now MAGA. As such they are a numerically significant part of American political life. They are also a cancer on the body politic in that their goal is to disable and consume democratic government at every level to the ultimate benefit of the Ultra Rich and the Christian Nationalists. While not all of them are as outspoken as the tool mentioned above they are all well vetted and enthusiastic members of the cult.

flying_wahini

(8,248 posts)
72. It's almost like they seek out the meanest dumbest men to represent the GOP.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:24 PM
Jul 2024

Don’t ch’know?

Hugin

(37,479 posts)
8. Good lord, the dude was five fricking years old in 1960.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:52 AM
Jul 2024

Cognitive tests, all around.

flying_wahini

(8,248 posts)
6. This is a very dangerous message and frightens me. These people are the set up for crushing women's rights.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:49 AM
Jul 2024

Make no mistake, if these Bozos manage to make men think that women are the enemy then
things are gonna get ugly.
Their “message” is that women are are free to make decisions that don’t include them
they will pull ALL the rights that we have earned over the last 50 years.
When women can’t vote or buy homes, get credit or even have a job …..

madaboutharry

(42,028 posts)
9. He probably likes some another features of 1960,
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:53 AM
Jul 2024

like the free reign men had to sexually harass women, the racist disenfranchisement of minority voters, and all the separate bathrooms, drinking fountains, and segregated schools down south.

A bit of context: Grothman's district includes the hometown of Joe McCarthy as well as the national headquarters of The John Birch Society.



Autumn

(48,769 posts)
11. 1960 my ass. This fucker wants a redo on the civil rights movement.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:55 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:41 AM - Edit history (1)

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
12. Today's homogenized, conglomerated media will probably "pick up" on the message and aid in the transformation.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 07:57 AM
Jul 2024

Judi Lynn

(164,050 posts)
13. Example of Rep Glenn Grothman, doing his best work:
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:01 AM
Jul 2024

The Real Reason Cardi B Got U.S. Rep Glenn Grothman All Riled Up
Let's focus on real issamues, please.
Alice Kelly
Written on Apr 23, 2021

Cardi B had some fighting words for Republican Rep. Glenn Grothman after he criticized the performance she and Megan Thee Stallion gave of their song "WAP" at the Grammy Awards in March.

In the midst of a pandemic, a racial reckoning, demands for police reform, and the ongoing battle against climate change, the GOP congressman from Wisconsin stood on the House floor on Thursday morning with only one issue on his mind: Cardi B and “WAP."

What did Representative Glenn Grothman say about Cardi B and "WAP"?
Grothman claimed that, like the FCC, he had received complaints about the superstar's performance at the Grammys, saying “I realize that Kamala Harris has used her fame to promote this performer, but I assure the FCC that millions of Americans would view her performance as inconsistent with basic decency.”

He also blamed Cardi B and the FCC's "complacency" in the matter for “the moral decline of America.”

"Wake up, FCC, and begin to do your job," he chastised the US government agency, the actual job of which is to "[regulate] interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and U.S. territories" and implement and enforce "America’s communications law and regulations." as well as to "promote connectivity and ensure a robust and competitive market."

More:
https://www.yourtango.com/2021341798/why-cardi-b-has-rep-glenn-grothman-riled-up

Ray Bruns

(6,008 posts)
41. "he had received complaints about the superstar's performance at the Grammys"
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:18 AM
Jul 2024

Well, that was a lie. People who vote for Glenn don’t know who Cardi B is and don’t watch the Grammy’s.

ck4829

(37,433 posts)
17. What it really is: Dude remembers the easy life of being... (checking notes) 5 years old
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:45 AM
Jul 2024

Chalk this up to rosy retrospection.

Progressive dog

(7,572 posts)
19. There was nothing great to go back to
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:51 AM
Jul 2024

Only an idiot would think things were better then. Rivers were burning, smog was killing people in many cities. Syracuse, NY had a river that was so acidic you touching it would burn your skin. Onondaga Lake was a septic tank.
https://www.npr.org/2012/07/31/157413747/americas-most-polluted-lake-finally-comes-clean
"The lake [smelled] so bad [from the pollution] that you had to roll the windows up," he recalls.

By then, swimming had already been banned for more than a decade. Because of mercury contamination, fishing was banned in 1972, although there were not many fish in the lake. Effler says there was so little oxygen that fish often swam right out of the lake.
In many countries there were regular famines where many people starved.

Great Chinese Famine 1959–61[16] Half of the country, in particular Anhui (18% died), Chongqing (15% died), Sichuan (13% died), Guizhou (11% died), Hunan (8% died)[17] Great Leap Forward, Floods, Droughts, Typhoons, Insect Invasion[18] 2.6 million to 55 million died.[19][17][20][

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China

Stuckinthebush

(11,194 posts)
37. Wasn't the Cuyahoga River fire in the 60s?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:59 AM
Jul 2024

Great time to be alive, eh?

Oh, and down here in the Deep South you better be a white person or else you might get killed for looking at someone wrong.

So, yeah no thanks on going back to when women were second class citizens, black and brown people were less than that, and the environment was killing us all.

keep_left

(3,168 posts)
55. Al Franken pointed out (in one of his books, I think) that the Cuyahoga...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 11:40 AM
Jul 2024

...actually caught fire two times! This was before we finally got an EPA and environmental laws that were strong enough to deter the kind of pollution that existed in the '60s and '70s.

Stuckinthebush

(11,194 posts)
57. Whoa! I didn't know that
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 11:45 AM
Jul 2024

Thank god for the EPA! The GOP would have us go back to such a perfect time where corporations could make massive amounts of money while destroying the environment.

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
62. It's Worse Than That
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:57 PM
Jul 2024

While some of the fires were minor compared to 1952 or 1969 (the former being the worst), the times the river caught fire in double digits.

As Cleveland emerged as a major manufacturing center, the river became heavily affected by industrial pollution, so much so that it caught fire at least 14 times.

Now, those 14 fires extended over a 101 year period, but still, a body of water catching fire every 14 or 15 years? Unreal.

keep_left

(3,168 posts)
63. Wow, I had no idea. I guess the "two times" Franken mentioned were the fires...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 02:04 PM
Jul 2024

...that got the attention of the major news media (which would show up when doing research for a book). But that number of fires is just...beyond. My understanding is that back then, there was a lot of heavy industry along the Cuyahoga, and they were just dumping huge amounts of flammable solvents and other chemicals directly into the river. Since those chemicals are usually less dense than water, they float on top as an oil slick, and all it takes is a spark from an outboard motor, etc.

ProfessorGAC

(75,888 posts)
71. Had To Be Oils
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 04:03 PM
Jul 2024

Alcohols with high combustibility of flammability are fully miscible in water.
As I'm sure you know, we can't light beer on fire unless the temperature is elevated.
So for it to be miscible flammables, the river would have to be than 10% alcohol. Even a company with zero regard to the environment would dump that much solvent, because it would be a gigantic waste of money.
So, these flammables had to be something that floats on water.
Just guessing, but I'm going with benzene, toluene, xylene & the like. Very flammable yet would concentrate on top like a combustible film.
Gladly, benzene is used far less today than it would be today. Too toxic. It's still used, but not like in the 60s and further back.

DavidDvorkin

(20,500 posts)
20. I'm of the generation that helped create that change
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jul 2024

I wasn't old enough to vote for JFK. My first vote was for LBJ in 1964. We welcomed the change and were happy to bid goodbye to that world that Grothman wants to go back to.

If only we could have kept those changes coming, instead of backtracking later, how much better this nation and the world would be.

bluedigger

(17,402 posts)
21. It's been a while since I heard Angela Davis blamed for all our woes.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:01 AM
Jul 2024

This guy has a true appreciation for the classics.

Wounded Bear

(63,886 posts)
23. Maybe we should get corporate America to stop working people to death...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:10 AM
Jul 2024

maybe then they could "spend more time with their families."

Just sayin'

Ziggysmom

(4,064 posts)
86. Corporate tax rate in 1960 was 37%; I doubt the elite owners want that back.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 09:55 PM
Jul 2024

Heck, in 1960 the average home price was $11,900! But a married woman couldn’t get credit in her own name. Grothman is a kook!

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
24. For me, the worst part is this asshole is my congresscritter.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:18 AM
Jul 2024

He used to be in our state assembly, until he moved into our district.

While in the assembly, he said about income parity based on gender, that "Money isn't important to women."

No wonder he's still single.

AllyCat

(18,567 posts)
47. He's dreadful. I met him once at the state capitol
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:32 AM
Jul 2024

Lobbying for public schools. Utterly dismissed with a wave of his hand and left us with his staffer who had no answers to anything.

suegeo

(3,105 posts)
60. So this man doesn't have a wife of his own to give his life purpose.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:06 PM
Jul 2024

Is hypocritical the right word for this creeping white guy.

He can't get a woman, start and support a family, but that's LBJ's fault and the fault of angry feminists.

He's an incel, I guess. Angry nobody will fu*k him and put up with his bullshit.

He said "Money isn't important to women"
Money is very important to women. We use money to leave bad marriages. We have money so we don't HAVE TO get married, especially not to assholes like Glenn.

58Sunliner

(6,273 posts)
25. Is he sure he meant 1960? Cause women could vote then and we had the pill.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:26 AM
Jul 2024

This pig just wants to hamstring women into forced birth, bad marriages, no autonomy.

Ocelot II

(129,271 posts)
26. It's not worth bothering to emasculate guys like that;
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jul 2024

they've done it to themselves. If their sad little balls shrivel at the thought of women not needing men, there was never much there to begin with.

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
29. They sure hate women!
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:32 AM
Jul 2024

Just keep going Repug men. I'll give you a statement also well known in families...

If mama ain't happy... no one's happy!

Guess what... "mama" ain't happy with you, and we're gonna show you by how much this Nov!!!

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
30. Says Incel who lives/lived with his mom.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jul 2024

Unfortunately, his Wikipedia page is full of this crap and more: misogyny, anti-education, anti-LGBTQIA, ad nauseum for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Grothman?wprov=sfti1

Dulcinea

(9,706 posts)
56. Yeah, another incel mad at the world because women have choices.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 11:42 AM
Jul 2024

And they didn't choose him. Bless his heart.

Raven123

(7,578 posts)
31. Did this guy just make an ad for the Dems?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:39 AM
Jul 2024

Dems should use his words as reason to flip the House in this year’s election

Solly Mack

(96,429 posts)
38. Won't somebody please think of all those put-upon straight, white Christain males?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:02 AM
Jul 2024

Fuck that noise.

julmur

(222 posts)
40. Milwaukee irish
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:12 AM
Jul 2024

This food has been a total POS since he’s been in office, unfortunately he’s in an extremely red area of Wisconsin, so impossible to vote him out

Martin68

(27,123 posts)
42. One of the many ironies in this pathetic speech is the contention that men are less involved in family life now than
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:19 AM
Jul 2024

they were in 1960. On the contrary, most men are expected to play a much fuller role in the family than in 1960, when the traditional husband's roles were confined to being the sole breadwinner and mowing the lawn.

Rebl2

(17,436 posts)
51. I think men
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:47 AM
Jul 2024

have been much more involved in their children’s lives the last 20 years than they ever were in the 1960’s. I remember when a young family moved in across the street from us when I was a child-in the 60’s. My father talked to the young man who said he really had no interest in the kids while they were toddlers. He said when the kids get older he would have more to do with them. My Dad, who was about 10 to 15 years older than him, couldn’t believe what he was hearing I am pretty sure. That guy did become more involved with his kids when they got older, and I would guess regrets saying that out loud to someone. At that time he seemed to be more interested in working on his cars and listening to loud rock and roll music.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
61. Let me translate Wisconsin Republicaneese for you.....
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:48 PM
Jul 2024

Grothman is referring to a specific type of man, usually living in the inner city and a few shades darker than the men Grothman interacts with while practicing his game at Whistling Straits.

hadEnuf

(3,535 posts)
44. So he watches "Leave it to Beaver" a lot? That's his reality?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:25 AM
Jul 2024

Or is it the reality of keeping people poor with little hope of moving out of it and women basically being kept subjected to only have the identity of "Mrs. John Jones" or some such crap. Not to mention women stuck in abusive relationship that would only cease if they "disappear" or exit horizontally through the front door.

Rebl2

(17,436 posts)
46. Don't know
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:29 AM
Jul 2024

what 1960’s he was living in, but I was a child and really have no good memories of the 60’s. I take that back, I did like following the Apollo missions.

patphil

(8,739 posts)
48. Sure, blame the women for wanting to be heard; for wanting a place at the table of political, economic, & social power.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 10:36 AM
Jul 2024

This is just more mindless blather from the " women should be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen" crowd.
And, of course, it's also just the tip of the iceberg. He most likely wants to flush the whole civil rights movement down the toilet.

Even his hair is white, male supremacist.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,330 posts)
53. Same old
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jul 2024

Male Narcissism in action.

We have to get narcissism in this country under control.

These two bastards are narcissists first before they scapegoat women.
Get the narcissism in the population under control the men will follow.

republianmushroom

(22,125 posts)
54. Strange as it may seem, there are a lot of woman in the republican camp
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 11:33 AM
Jul 2024

who must want this also. Seems to me they are voting against there best interest.
But there they are.

Collimator

(2,083 posts)
69. During the Abolitionist Years. . .
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jul 2024

. . . there were no slaves traveling about giving speeches about how great slavery was. . . However, there were women traveling the country during the more heated years of the Suffrage Movement who were vehemently stumping against giving women the vote. It is one of the most chilling tells of how intensely ingrained misogyny is in most of human culture.

Granted, even today, social experiments show Black children regarding darker-skinned dolls as less attractive than lighter-skinned dolls, so there is still a great deal of deeply ingrained self hatred regarding race in this country, but misogyny can be both blatant and subtle and it is oh so disturbingly pervasive.

My hope is in each new cohort of girls turning 18 and becoming voting age women in America. I still remember the stirring words of one 12 year old speaker at the massive gun control rally that took place weeks later. She essentially put the politicians of the day on notice regarding what would happen when her generation came of age. I really, REALLY, hope that she will have turned 18 before the election this November. Whether she does or not, I will be thinking about her when I cast my ballot.

And regarding those observations about neanderthals-- remember that they are gone for a reason. They were out paced by homo sapiens not because we had bigger muscles or even bigger brains, for that matter. The general consensus is that our species was more flexible and adaptable to change. Never bet against change because the Universe is founded on it.

The 1960's are NOT coming back. The can't. Now, who knows how good or bad the 2060's are going to be, but time moves in only one direction. Things CAN get worse, but they will never "get better" in terms of re-creating an illusion of the past. And people who direct their focus onto the past will never be happy no matter how the future plays out.

suegeo

(3,105 posts)
59. Is Glenn Grothman married, with a family to give his life purpose?
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:01 PM
Jul 2024

I did a quick googl and found no wife, no mention of kids.

Glenn couldn't get a woman, and hopes he can someday be assigned a handmaid his own personal "Ofglenn"

Even if he is married to a woman, that does not negate in any way the "ick what a woman hater" vibe I get from this uptight white guy.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
64. Grothman thought he was about to die on the WI capitol lawn in Feb 2011
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 02:14 PM
Jul 2024

back in the massive anti-tyranny protests and calls for Walker's impeachment. He was SO dumb that he walked among the protestors telling them they were wrong to protest.

I was only a couple of dozen feet from him when after being surrounded on the west side of the capitol building by hundreds of angry protestors and hiding in a window well, he literally wet his pants in fear.

One of the Dem WI Senators intervened on his behalf, urged the crowd back away from him so he could escape unharmed. Probably saved Grothman's life.


LetMyPeopleVote

(175,358 posts)
66. GOP's Grothman slams 'angry feminist movement,' seeks return to 1960s
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 02:59 PM
Jul 2024

Republican Rep. Glenn Grothman not only slammed “the angry feminist movement,” he also called for the U.S. to “work our way back” to the 1960s.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gops-grothman-slams-angry-feminist-movement-seeks-return-1960s-rcna161534

It was a few years ago, for example, when the Wisconsin Republican argued that the District of Columbia doesn’t deserve statehood because it doesn’t have any local mining. That came on the heels of Grothman explaining his opposition to equal-pay legislation by saying, “You could argue that money is more important for men.”.....

Last year, the GOP congressman expressed concern that by diversifying the courts, President Joe Biden might be “actively discriminating against white heterosexual men.” Soon after, Grothman lamented the lack of “white guys” among the White House’s judicial nominees.

Unfortunately, he’s still at it. The Daily Beast reported:

Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) on Thursday accused “the angry feminist movement” of emasculating men and said the U.S. should “work our way back” to 1960 if former President Donald Trump wins in November.


Even by contemporary Republican standards, Grothman’s remarks, delivered on the House floor from what appeared to be prepared notes, were striking......

After criticizing a variety of social-insurance programs — including day care and pre-school — and denouncing “the angry feminist movement,” the Republican concluded, “So I hope the press corps picks up on this, and I hope Republican and Democrat [sic] leadership put together some sort of plan for January, in which we work our way back to where America was in the 1960s.




I mention this because the former president is defined in large part by his retrospective perspective. Trump isn’t forward thinking; he boasts about his desire to go backwards, to a time when he thinks America was “great.”

And while the presumptive GOP presidential nominee tends to be vague about just how far back he wants to roll back the clock, his congressional sycophant was more explicit: Grothman doesn’t just want to go back four years, to Trump’s term; he wants to go back six decades, to a time when people who looked and thought like him enjoyed a more exalted status over everyone else.





CBHagman

(17,435 posts)
67. Ah, the '60s, when a cancer diagnosis...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

...was more likely to end with a funeral.

I remember. It seems the congressman's train of thought hasn't stopped at that particular station.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
87. ☝️☝️ I'm all for it. Hell, I'd settle for going back to 70%. Make the 1% pay their share.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 10:37 PM
Jul 2024

duncang

(3,767 posts)
76. He was at the oldest 15.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:42 PM
Jul 2024

Other than the musings of a teen what does he actually remember from then about adult life.

bdamomma

(69,176 posts)
77. Are you
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:18 PM
Jul 2024

showing how insecure and misogynist you are Rep Grotman????

Women are not second class citizens!!!!!! Or breeders!!!!!!

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
78. 1960 elected a Prez who served in our military and did not run away as a coward with fake bone spurs.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jul 2024

Kath2

(3,174 posts)
81. That really pisses me off.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:39 PM
Jul 2024

The "angry feminist movement" is nothing but a reasonable response to being second class citizens for so long and which we still are. Yes, we are angry and have every reason to be. People like this have beat us down for too long. Social programs actually help people. And Angela Davis was far ahead of her time and a beautiful person Gloria Steinem, too. How dare he insult her! I certainly don't want to go back to 1960. He can go back to 1960. I want to be here in 2024.

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