11 Polls this week, Biden-Trump. Trump's lead appears to be gone:

[flamingdem]

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[Peacetrain]

1. Wish I could recommend a 1000 times

[JohnSJ]

2. Time for the MSM to pile on again

[BComplex]

4. Time to call the media again!! Call MSNBC, or email, and each of the pundits.

NYT, Washington Post, CNN: Forward these polls! They need to hear the fury!!!!

[BaronChocula]

13. Oh they are

The narrative I'm seeing from corporate media isn't "Biden erases trump's lead." It's more like "Biden stuck in dead heat." You can't make this stuff up.

[JohnSJ]

20. Unfortunately. No surprise though

[Deek1935]

5. "But, but, but .... he's not AHEAD by enough! He needs to be ahead by a MILE! ARRRGGHHH!!!!"

[democrattotheend]

8. Sorry, but it's true

He had a 7.2 point lead in the national polling averages in 2020, won the actual national popular vote by 4.5 points, and barely won the election with 44,000 votes in the closest states. And the electoral math has gotten worse for us since the 2020 census. I don't think he (or any Democrat) has a great shot without at least a 5 point lead in the national polls, and a stronger job approval rating than he has now. A big part of the reason the debate has been so disastrous (besides the MSM exaggerating how bad he actually was and elected Democrats making it worse with the public handwringing and calls to step aside) was because he already wasn't in great shape before the debate.

I don't know what Biden's campaign was thinking pushing to have this early debate and then a 3 month gap until the next debate. Obama was able to turn things around after his first debate with Romney in part by doing much better at the second debate, and because he wasn't in as bad shape before the debate. Plus he was only 51 and wasn't facing questions about his age and fitness for the job, so a bad debate didn't hurt him as much. But if Biden had scheduled another debate with Trump a week or two after the first one, people would probably be at least waiting to see how he did at the second debate before calling for his head.

[Raven123]

10. On the bright side, we have time to tie TFG to Project 2025

…which apparently is not popular with the people

[Celerity]

12. In 2020, if just 21,461 Biden voters had flipped to Trump (spread out over just three states: GA, WI, AZ), then

Trump would have won via a 269-269 EC tie being decided by the House, where the Rethugs have pretty unbreakable State delegation control number, as it is basically impossible to get them below 26 atm, due to gerrymandering, especially in the 3 key close ones for years, WI and FL, with FL no longer close, WI being pretty airtight, and NC now likely to go from a 7 D 7 R split to a 10 to 4 or even 11 to 3 R advantage, post 2024, as the Rethugs redrew the fairplay US House NC map that gave us a 7 to 7 tie. The Rethugs took back the NC Supreme Court, which reversed the previous court's ruling that tossed out the Rethug map.

[VictorianCurls57]

22. Trump's approval is much worse than Biden's

Don't forget that Trump's approval is much worse than Biden's by 25 points. I believe that matters.

[democrattotheend]

25. Trump doesn't have an approval rating right now

The job approval rating is for active presidents. Biden's job approval rating now is lower than Trump's was at this point (or I think any point) in his term.

Did you mean Trump's favorability rating right now is lower than Biden's?

[TexasDem69]

28. That's wrong

Biden has a worse approval rating than Trump. Don’t know how, but he does.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

35. Welcome to DU

[TexasDem69]

27. Absolutely spot on

Biden needs to win the popular vote by at least 2 points. Running even means that Trump wins the presidency. So when I see a bunch of polls that show the election tied that just means we’re going to have a Trump presidency again in 2025.

[Freethinker65]

30. If Biden would have done as well in the debate as the press conference yesterday?

A few mix ups of names. Lots of wonky detail. A few zingers.

Media would have run with the name mix ups to fit their narrative, as most are doing now. And if Biden had hit everything out of the park like the SOTU address, Trump would have been screaming for Biden to take a drug test. Ridiculous, yes. But Trump would have gotten media attention for it, and people would question how he could be that good, but only for short bursts, because, you know, he's soooo old.

[mzmolly]

6. Joe's a fighter.

He's overcome so much in life. I think America will rally behind him.

[TexasDem69]

29. Why do you think that?

[mzmolly]

31. Why do you ask?

[TexasDem69]

32. Sorry, to clarify

Why do you think America will rally behind Biden?

[mzmolly]

33. Because he's a fighter.

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Because he has a command of the issues. Because he's compassionate. Because he's a decent man. Because we all get older and that doesn't mean we're less valuable. Because Biden is being treated unfairly while the pedophile, narcissistic felon is getting a pass.

What's your opinion?

[The Magistrate]

7. The Key To The Stampede Is Two-Fold

First, the proportion of Democrats with concerns over Mr. Biden's age is, by pundits and doom-saying pols, presented as if this is interchangeable with Democrats who won't vote for President Biden in November. It is not. They will vote for President Biden, concerns and all. They know what the alternative is.

Second, a portion of the Party's larger donors value the well-being of the country less than their own balance sheets. Certainly 'Pro-Trump Tax Rates' if not quite 'Pro-Trump', at the moment anyway, and these are the people driving the press stampede. At this rate they'll get Trump tax rates, but they won't get a Democratic Party nominee for President who will not increase their taxes.


"The poor object to being misgoverned. The rich object to being governed at all."

[bdamomma]

9. We all need to

be in President Biden and VP Kamala camp now!!!!! We got to show UNITY!!!!!!!!!

Let's kick those Heritage Foundation people and the Leonard Leo's to the curb!!!!!

[sinkingfeeling]

11. So time to dump our candidate!

[totodeinhere]

14. The way that the Electoral College works President Biden will need at least a five point lead

nationally in order to pull out a win in the Electoral College. Joe won the popular vote by 7 million yet he eked out a narrow Electoral College win in 2020. 44,000 votes in just three states was the final margin of victory.

We still have work to do. It is all about the swing states and not the national vote.

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/940689086/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency

Edit - One major priority of President Biden's second term should be passing a constitutional amendment to eliminate the Electoral College..

[KS Toronado]

15. My 2 cents

[republianmushroom]

16. Biden's base is now showing up, and speaking up.

[GoCubsGo]

18. There are also plenty of people fleeing Trump.

The debate reminded a lot of people just how awful he is, and they want no part of him.

[Ford_Prefect]

17. Oh My, Oh My, Oh My!

[Pepsidog]

19. I don't believe any of these polls. The silent majority will wake up and crush Rs in Nov.

[senseandsensibility]

21. Simon Rosenberg is good for the soul

If you ever need a reality check or a "talking down" his twitter account is great. I first saw him on Lawrence, and when Lawrence has a guest there is usually a good reason.

[flamingdem]

24. He is like a soothing balm

unlike many of the guests on msnbc lately!

[Scalded Nun]

23. Just think about how that would look if the (at a minimum) Epstein/pedo or Project 2025 actually got some traction.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

26. What I was looking for. So the polls have moved up?

Good to see some real data. Hopefully he will keep on trending up and up.

[Dem4life1234]

34. The hideous

Obese slobbering felon should be polling at 30%, should be no where close to classy and intelligent caring Biden.