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orangecrush

(23,434 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 06:52 PM Jul 2024

It looks like Trump may have been "collateral damage"


Perhaps one of his whackos got pissed at someone in the crowd and emptied his magazine.

"Speaking in a parking lot near the event side, a mother and son who were attending the rally told NBC News that people in the crowd were injured and carried away. People remained at the scene for 10 to 15 minutes after Trump was taken away, after which hey were then told it was an active crime scene and all attendees were escorted out.

Follow live updates on the Trump rally incident

Three senior law enforcement officials said that they are looking into whether two other individuals in the crowd were shot at the rally. The threat has been “contained,” according to the officials."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/secret-service-rushes-trump-stage-shots-fired-pennsylvania-rally-rcna161735
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It looks like Trump may have been "collateral damage" (Original Post) orangecrush Jul 2024 OP
Well that would be something senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #1
The article doesn't support your assertion. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #2
Probability of this is about zero. Trump's head getting hit when they were aming for someone else? nt Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #3
It wasn't Trump's head planj07 Jul 2024 #8
False. nt LexVegas Jul 2024 #10
It's way too early to be sure of that. nt kcr Jul 2024 #11
Videos of SS shooting man on roof womanofthehills Jul 2024 #16
I don't believe this shows the SS agent firing back NickB79 Jul 2024 #22
A full metal jacket round would just wizz thru a earlobe, not "blow it off" EX500rider Jul 2024 #12
Are those rounds legally available to civilians ? DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #14
Yes, it's the hollow points that are not available to the military all the time EX500rider Jul 2024 #15
You were right orangecrush Jul 2024 #18
There would have been a lot easier ways to kill someone in the audience. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #4
Stupid lives in a bottle orangecrush Jul 2024 #7
Ok fair point. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #13
Not this time orangecrush Jul 2024 #19
He had to know the SS would kill him. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #21
Looks like I was wrong orangecrush Jul 2024 #9
Uninformed speculation is worse than useless. You are assuming it was from within the security perimeter. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #5
White on white crime ColinC Jul 2024 #6
He shot from a nearby roof at Trump. Melon Jul 2024 #17
Yep orangecrush Jul 2024 #20
collateral damage in a final destination scenario? ecstatic Jul 2024 #23

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
2. The article doesn't support your assertion.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 06:59 PM
Jul 2024

The other people shot could just as easily be the collateral damage. That's significantly more likely, though the shooter's motivation has yet to be established or reported.

Quixote1818

(30,792 posts)
3. Probability of this is about zero. Trump's head getting hit when they were aming for someone else? nt
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 07:02 PM
Jul 2024

planj07

(40 posts)
8. It wasn't Trump's head
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 07:45 PM
Jul 2024

He got hit by a shard of glass. If it was a bullet his ear would’ve been blown off.

NickB79

(19,787 posts)
22. I don't believe this shows the SS agent firing back
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:14 PM
Jul 2024

It appears he sees something that catches his attention right before the shooting starts, when he lifts his head off the scope, ducks back to line up a shot, the shooting starts, then the video cuts off.

The shooter got off 8-10 rounds in 10 seconds before the counter-sniper pegged him.

EX500rider

(11,749 posts)
15. Yes, it's the hollow points that are not available to the military all the time
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 08:46 PM
Jul 2024

Hollow points are more dangerous and create worse wound effects.

most NATO militaries only use FMJ rounds because of an international treaty that prohibits expanding rounds.

But hollow point might just wizz thru too, not much resistance in a earlobe to expand the bullet.

Irish_Dem

(65,120 posts)
4. There would have been a lot easier ways to kill someone in the audience.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 07:15 PM
Jul 2024

And doing it in such a way the US Secret Service is after you?

No one is that stupid.

Irish_Dem

(65,120 posts)
21. He had to know the SS would kill him.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:09 PM
Jul 2024

He was in plain sight.

So you are right.
He was foolish.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,850 posts)
5. Uninformed speculation is worse than useless. You are assuming it was from within the security perimeter. . . . nt
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 07:16 PM
Jul 2024
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