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haele

(13,328 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:20 PM Jul 2024

Question - Could it be Democratic donors, pols and punditry want a landslide winner?

They are afraid of a second Trump Presidency and want reassurance they have an easy landslide winner?
Unfortunately, there is none. And it seems that "though their heart is in the right place", they don't have the stomach for the real fight to protect what they've taken for granted. Because Democracy made it easier to get where they are, they expect their opponents are on the same page they are.


After all, everyone believes Democracy and a robust Social Contact is beneficial to everyone, right? Autocracy limits the opportunities and freedom of the majority of people, creating rigid class structures and forcing almost everyone into a subservient position to a few.

Project 2025 is so hugely outrageous, it only benefits few dozen people and corporations.

There can't be tens of millions of people who would give up most of their freedom and any opportunity to live comfortably into old age just to strike out at an existential fear, could there?

Why aren't our Candidates doing better? It should be a landslide by now. Did we pick the right people? Why aren't they working harder to get the word out?


Because those who have it easy, who have money, who are moving in the "polite circles" or isolated business circles; who aren't already working in the campaigns on the deck plates, as it were, don't understand how, when and where the population, especially the working population, in general are getting their news and opinions. You can talk troll farms and panic politics all you want. They pique the interest of those who already are living with issues that are hard to solve, that seem overwhelming.

But mass media buys don't count as much as neighborhood projects, meet and greets, and town halls. Which also means panicked politicians will cause more problems than their "propositions" will solve

The Media is owned by the few who think they will make out under an authorization regime; those few cannot win unless our Democratic Representatives fall into line with that media and let them. Because honestly, what average voter cares what a wealthy donor or elitist pundit thinks?
I know Elon Musk or Jimmie Dimon are going to back the "team" that can make them richer My neighbors and I care about the team that makes sure they have jobs, health care, and security available. It should be a landslide, but realistically, as the old saying goes "familiarity breeds contempt", and for the past 70 years, the liberal, progressive, tolerant, or whatever you want to call it movements that drive the modern difference between Democrat and Republican has been too complacent standing by watching the other team get taken over by an anti-Democratic agendas.

Stand together and show me Democracy counts, Democrats.
Keep your panic or resentment that your sparkle pony isn't important enough to yourself, grow the f*** up and get to work. You've got 70 years of squabbling, vanity, hand wringing, and procrastinating to make up for in (checks calendar) three months.
Or you ain't going to get a second chance. Ever.

Haele





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Question - Could it be Democratic donors, pols and punditry want a landslide winner? (Original Post) haele Jul 2024 OP
There is no such thing as a "landslide winner" in a polarized country JohnSJ Jul 2024 #1
There is no 'landslide' in the making JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #2
The only issue I have is that I want to know WHY they feel the need to Autumn Jul 2024 #3
I think that is a darned good question.. most likely.. Peacetrain Jul 2024 #4
Well said Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #5
They want a landslide, if anything we doc03 Jul 2024 #6
The mostly wealthy white anglo men engaged in this GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #7

JustAnotherGen

(33,208 posts)
2. There is no 'landslide' in the making
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:26 PM
Jul 2024

We are too polarized and are burdened by a 3/5 Compromise that gives 584K people in Wyoming more power than 759K people in Monroe County NY - of which the county seat is Rochester.

My mom died in early June so I've been going back and forth from Central NJ a great deal. I'm stunned at how just about everywhere in Monroe County you can get to in 20/30 Minutes.

The 'smaller' population states have outsized influence and have their boots on the necks of those who actually pay for things in America. And they get away with it because of something 'minority voices will be lost' - without consideration for the fact that ACTUAL minorities in high cola states are being held to an 1864 standard.

It's bullshit. There will be no landslides until we get to one person/one vote.

Autumn

(45,909 posts)
3. The only issue I have is that I want to know WHY they feel the need to
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:26 PM
Jul 2024

switch candidate now. These are respected Democrats who have earned my respect. Schiff, Pelosi, Obama, Hickenlooper. It's not like them to panic. If they want me to get behind them I want to know what they know.

Doc Sportello

(7,936 posts)
5. Well said
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:28 PM
Jul 2024

Landslides like in 1964 don't happen in these times. It's ignorant to expect Biden to win big or be far ahead in the polls and it's destructive to keep beating that drum.

doc03

(36,421 posts)
6. They want a landslide, if anything we
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:37 PM
Jul 2024

may lose because of them. The time for replacing Biden was months ago before the primaries. Those SOBs may have lost it all for us. It very well could be a landslide for Trump.

GoreWon2000

(834 posts)
7. The mostly wealthy white anglo men engaged in this
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:39 PM
Jul 2024

insurrection to take we the people's votes away have the least to lose if tRump gets back into the White House. The dem party base understands this because the dem party base is so much more than just a small group of mostly wealthy white anglo men. It's women, people of color, LGBTQ+, working people and environmental protection advocates who''ll lose their lives, rights and protections if tRump gets back in the White House. This is why the dem party base is standing with Biden. These few wealthy white anglo men won't take our votes away! The grass roots will see the Biden-Harris ticket through. The media is clearly pro-GOP. They proved that in 2000.

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