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Blue Cape

(351 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:00 PM Jul 19

Serious Question, is this about them being afraid President Biden will lose or..

that he will win?

Look guys, this is it for me. Even if I survive my disease a while, I won't likely be fit for more elections. But this country needs every last ounce I have left, and needs it from all of us.

If you know people that know people, please let him know we love the President and support him and are by his side, day after day, and won't abandon him.

If we keep the faith, we will win.
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Serious Question, is this about them being afraid President Biden will lose or.. (Original Post) Blue Cape Jul 19 OP
some of those people have been threatened with prison time or worse by trump ecstatic Jul 19 #1
Maybe not if they start playing his game. StarryNite Jul 19 #3
you can't be serious. lol. nt ecstatic Jul 19 #10
I think they are afraid he will win. StarryNite Jul 19 #2
I have no reason to believe that elected Democrats don't want a Biden win. Elessar Zappa Jul 19 #4
It is about the money. We need to primary every one of them...they are costing us the presidency if thy get their way. Demsrule86 Jul 19 #21
They're afraid THEY will lose Qutzupalotl Jul 19 #5
I think its fear, panic and groupthink BannonsLiver Jul 19 #6
IMO it's about the money. Citizens United is destroying our democracy Raven123 Jul 19 #7
It is impossible to argue that someone like Nancy Pelosi is acting in anything but good faith. tritsofme Jul 19 #8
She has said nothing about Biden withdrawing. n/t valleyrogue Jul 19 #9
If that's what you'd like to pretend, who am I to say otherwise? tritsofme Jul 19 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Cape Jul 19 #14
Nancy has said nothing. Demsrule86 Jul 19 #22
Every election year there is a fear we could lose. StarryNite Jul 19 #12
Love for Joe Biden can't overwhelm love for this country mikalcharles Jul 19 #26
The Brer'r Rabbit stuff from the Repukes is a tell. rzemanfl Jul 19 #13
My Theory on the Media. chouchou Jul 19 #15
I think the dollar boys don't want to pay their taxes. we can do it Jul 19 #16
The oligarchs know Biden will win so they are trying to balance it out by withholding the money necessary to keep the Solomon Jul 19 #17
The unrealized capital gains tax is a proposal, but a law. usonian Jul 19 #19
If "they" are afraid that Joe Biden will lose to this sack of shit usonian Jul 19 #18
No conspiracy theories necessary JackSabbath Jul 19 #20
Will be extremely difficult to enact any of that unless we regain House, keep Senate and Presidency. Silent Type Jul 19 #27
No PhilosopherKing Jul 19 #23
I'm sorry to hear you have a disease. Best wishes. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 19 #24
I'm sorry you are in such medical danger. And TY for reminding me... electric_blue68 Jul 19 #25

ecstatic

(33,864 posts)
1. some of those people have been threatened with prison time or worse by trump
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:02 PM
Jul 19

So you can safely eliminate option B.

StarryNite

(10,334 posts)
2. I think they are afraid he will win.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jul 19

Because I just don't see how we can win without him. It's way too late in the game to magically produce a ticket with a better chance than Biden/Harris.

Elessar Zappa

(15,099 posts)
4. I have no reason to believe that elected Democrats don't want a Biden win.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:04 PM
Jul 19

It’s panic (arguably unjustified) that he can’t win. I believe he can and will continue supporting him. If he steps aside, I will vote for whomever our nominee is. The alternative is unthinkable.

Demsrule86

(70,542 posts)
21. It is about the money. We need to primary every one of them...they are costing us the presidency if thy get their way.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jul 19

Qutzupalotl

(14,837 posts)
5. They're afraid THEY will lose
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:07 PM
Jul 19

because big donors are threatening to withhold contributions if they don't call for Biden's withdrawal.

The part of the debate that concerns the donors the most was not the flubbed line. It was the part about a 25% tax on the wealthy. They HATE that shit, so they are calling for a different candidate than the one the rest of us chose.

BannonsLiver

(17,401 posts)
6. I think its fear, panic and groupthink
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:07 PM
Jul 19

I don’t buy into the Byzantine conspiracy theories that are making the rounds. Reminds me of something one might see at FR.

tritsofme

(18,002 posts)
8. It is impossible to argue that someone like Nancy Pelosi is acting in anything but good faith.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:08 PM
Jul 19

I don’t agree with her judgment here, but it does give one pause.

I think it’s ridiculously insulting to argue otherwise, that people like Nancy want Trump to win.

Response to tritsofme (Reply #8)

StarryNite

(10,334 posts)
12. Every election year there is a fear we could lose.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:15 PM
Jul 19

And in fact we have lost numerous times in the past. But when have we ever seen our candidate treated like this? We voted for him. We. The. People. Of. The. Democratic. Party. We voted for him. What do we have if our votes do not count? I'm old, I have never seen anything like this before. This is not normal politics.

mikalcharles

(94 posts)
26. Love for Joe Biden can't overwhelm love for this country
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 08:15 PM
Jul 19

We've never had an 81 year old candidate, four years older than the Democrat we elected in 1993. Biden was elected as an elder statesman to put the country back together after Trump. He did that. He thinks he needs to finish the job. But all the attention on Biden now is focused on his age. There's no getting around that. You can't unwatch the debate. I think the Democrats need a candidate who will generate enthusiasm, not one who when you see him walking up Air Force One steps you hold your breath and pray he doesn't fall.

chouchou

(1,085 posts)
15. My Theory on the Media.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:18 PM
Jul 19

The right-wing is terrified that IF Donald Trump wins AND the right-wing media DOES NOT do everything to make SURE Donnie wins, Mr. asshole and revenge prick will RAIN DOWN on the Right-wing media.
Bottom line..The People who run the right-wing bullshit are Scared..BIG TIME.

Now The Left wing media >>>> They have integrity. They KNOW that Mr.Prick is going to be an Asshole either way.
The Left wing let the pieces fall-as-they-may.

Solomon

(12,440 posts)
17. The oligarchs know Biden will win so they are trying to balance it out by withholding the money necessary to keep the
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jul 19

House and the Senate.

usonian

(12,093 posts)
19. The unrealized capital gains tax is a proposal, but a law.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:23 PM
Jul 19

But he did get those superpowers.


Hmmm.

usonian

(12,093 posts)
18. If "they" are afraid that Joe Biden will lose to this sack of shit
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 19


Then they've been played like a Stradivarius.

Look at the (secret) list of all imaginable alternative candidates.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219184567

The "goal" of all this is to lose, IMNSHO.

Joe Manchin?
Stella Artois?
Reid Hoffman?
Mark Cuban?
LeBron James? ( oops, busy)
Merrick Garland?
Abigail Disney?
Michael Bloomberg?
Arnold Schwarzenegger?

I'M RIDIN WITH BIDEN.


JackSabbath

(170 posts)
20. No conspiracy theories necessary
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jul 19

Just ask yourself which major donors would be hurt by a 25% tax increase, stronger unions, affordable pharma and medical care, affordable education, a greener economy? Whose interests would suffer from a quick resolution to the crises in Ukrain and Israel? I'll bet that you will find one of this type donor behind every Dem Politician who is calling for Joe to step down.

electric_blue68

(16,743 posts)
25. I'm sorry you are in such medical danger. And TY for reminding me...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 08:01 PM
Jul 19

because I asked someone who might still know someone who knows someone....3° or 4° s
to send support to President Biden.

We've both been busy, so I will ask again.

And yes, I've called my Sen - Schumer, emailed the WH w my support, etc.

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