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MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 11:42 AM Jul 2024

Joe Biden overperformed with white male voters

We can’t concede those votes. Harris will do well with suburban white women but I think we need a very strong labor VP from PA or Midwest to help with white male voters.
I’ve been pulling for Shapiro and he would still be great. However, I’m moving more and more to Tim Walz.
I’m not sure Cooper or Bashear would be comfortable at labor rallies or comforting to the hard hats. As an ex-teacher, Tim also boosts suburban woman vote even more.
As I’m writing this, I’m seeing more and more potential for Walz. Comfortable in his own skin, pro-Union, a mind-your-own-business slogan that is greatly reassuring to all women.
Has shown his face repeatedly on national TV. makes for good tv.
Thoughts?

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Joe Biden overperformed with white male voters (Original Post) MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 OP
Josh Shapiro or bust ColinC Jul 2024 #1
PA is the most important state for our election. Shapiro would be best. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #2
Absolutely ColinC Jul 2024 #3
I'm more and more coming to the same conclusion. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #13
So if Shapiro isn't picked as Harris' running mate SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #10
Correct bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #4
I've definitely warmed to him, also! Cooper has been an awesome governor for NC, and I really like him. BComplex Jul 2024 #5
I didn't know that Cooper and Harris are friends. That's great to hear. MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 #7
She really does have a lot of friends! Now she also has a helluva lot of fans!! BComplex Jul 2024 #9
And Beshear was also part of the same AG group. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #14
They were all AGs together moonscape Jul 2024 #18
Wow! What a great class of Democratic leadership MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 #23
I agree. I'm all in for Walz. Sogo Jul 2024 #6
Any would be great. Cooper would bring North Carolina (16 votes) and help in the south lostnfound Jul 2024 #8
Another old white guy Bayard Jul 2024 #11
That's a consideration. He looks older than he is and has an older voice. MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 #12
Yes, Kamala certainly looks younger than her biological age. LisaL Jul 2024 #20
Walz is younger than Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #15
Nope, older by (gasp) 6 months RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #17
Old people vote. RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #16
Yep, old people are reliable voters. LisaL Jul 2024 #19
Apart from not being old (60), he's moonscape Jul 2024 #21
Guys like astronaut, fighter pilots. nt still-prayin4rain Jul 2024 #22

SocialDemocrat61

(7,651 posts)
10. So if Shapiro isn't picked as Harris' running mate
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 12:14 PM
Jul 2024

you won't be voting for her in November?

bucolic_frolic

(55,160 posts)
4. Correct
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 11:49 AM
Jul 2024

That was the strength of Joe Biden, as the election neared he moved to the middle. I don't think he was up to the campaign this year though, voters' tastes and age preferences changed. In my view the whole ticket needs to move to the middle a bit. Let's not make it 2016 again.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
5. I've definitely warmed to him, also! Cooper has been an awesome governor for NC, and I really like him.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 11:49 AM
Jul 2024

He and Kamala are good friends, and she trusts him. He's very laid back south, in a lot of ways, and I'm not sure he would help create the excitement we've got going. Walz and Shapiro are both really good picks. Kelly is great! But we need our senators where they are now. The Senate will be key to getting the supreme court straightened out, as well as the rest of the Harris agenda.

That said, I'd love to see Kelly as the new Senate Majority Leader. It's time for Chuck Schumer to step back. I love him as a leader and senator, but he needs to pass the torch while he's still there to bounce things off of for a new leader.

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
7. I didn't know that Cooper and Harris are friends. That's great to hear.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 11:53 AM
Jul 2024

She’s also friends with Shapiro and was friends with Beau Biden. Hmmmmmm, for an unlikeable woman, she sure has a lot of friends. 😏😏😏😏

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
8. Any would be great. Cooper would bring North Carolina (16 votes) and help in the south
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 11:54 AM
Jul 2024

I seriously like all of these 4 and i trust Kamala to make a good choice.

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
12. That's a consideration. He looks older than he is and has an older voice.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 12:52 PM
Jul 2024

Harris actually looks younger than her stated age and has a young voice. Nature is cruel sometimes.

RandomNumbers

(19,156 posts)
17. Nope, older by (gasp) 6 months
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jul 2024

He was born in April 1964, she in October 1964.

Assuming Wikipedia is correct.

I looked it up because I didn't realize Kamala was that close to 60.

Not a problem for me.

Apparently Kamala presents as younger than she is, and and Walz presents as older than he really is.

I think the ticket works, but it doesn't help us win a state - we probably get Minnesota anyway. Still might be worth it for the overall capability and attraction that Walz brings.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
19. Yep, old people are reliable voters.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jul 2024

So old people should not be discounted in any way, shape or form.

moonscape

(5,725 posts)
21. Apart from not being old (60), he's
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jul 2024

a vibrant, smart, funny, uncanned speaker, who apparently has David Hogg enthused about him.

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