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applegrove

(124,918 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:18 AM Aug 2024

Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas

Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas

Yes, Peter Thiel was the senator’s benefactor. But they’re both inspired by an obscure software developer who has some truly frightening thoughts about reordering society.

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

"SNIP............

In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed “not productive”: “convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”

Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time, clarified that he was “just kidding.” But then he continued, “The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass. However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.”

He then concluded that the “best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people: Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement” where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface” so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”

Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers, chief among them: tech billionaire Peter Thiel and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. Vance, whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald Trump’s vice president. If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvin’s twisted techno-authoritarianism to the White House, and one can imagine—with horror—what a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.

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Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2024 OP
OK, I'm gobsmacked now. not fooled Aug 2024 #1
It makes you wonder about the things they decided applegrove Aug 2024 #2
Earlier thread on Yarvin, from a couple of weeks ago: highplainsdem Aug 2024 #3
Thanks. I'll leave mine up for those here today who have not seen it. applegrove Aug 2024 #5
I wouldn't want you to delete yours - it's a newer article from a different journalist. I just highplainsdem Aug 2024 #6
Thank you for your link and coordination. We need to get it all out. applegrove Aug 2024 #7
Like The Matrix... Silver Gaia Aug 2024 #4
Well that's just weird. Danascot Aug 2024 #8
Digitize the Poor and Stick Them in the Matrix. Kid Berwyn Aug 2024 #9
Jesus christ róisín_dubh Aug 2024 #10
"Immediately assume absolute power, ignore the courts, coopt Congress" dalton99a Aug 2024 #11

not fooled

(6,176 posts)
1. OK, I'm gobsmacked now.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:36 AM
Aug 2024

Just when you think these MFers have bottomed out on creepy, it gets worse.

highplainsdem

(54,628 posts)
6. I wouldn't want you to delete yours - it's a newer article from a different journalist. I just
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 02:36 AM
Aug 2024

wanted to link to my earlier thread so people could see that article, too.

Yarvin's on Twitter and has been sniping at Gil Duran, who wrote the article you posted.

RWers don't want these connections and ideas exposed now.

applegrove

(124,918 posts)
7. Thank you for your link and coordination. We need to get it all out.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 02:44 AM
Aug 2024

And organize and let everyone know how weird (sick) they are.

Kid Berwyn

(19,450 posts)
9. Digitize the Poor and Stick Them in the Matrix.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 09:08 AM
Aug 2024

“Cheaper than welfare.” — Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, plus the other greedhead billionaire NAZIs.

róisín_dubh

(11,961 posts)
10. Jesus christ
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 09:11 AM
Aug 2024

I’m happy I’m in my late 40s and have no kids. I weep for the world my nieces and nephews are inheriting. It’s completely fucked.
The sooner these monsters meet the guillotine-and a dull one at that-, the better. Sorry if that’s harsh, but I happen to be a historian haha

dalton99a

(87,164 posts)
11. "Immediately assume absolute power, ignore the courts, coopt Congress"
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:03 AM
Aug 2024

"And start getting rid of people"

Yarvin's Project 2025 in a nutshell

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