I keep hearing this fucking nonsense from Republicans

[Pototan]

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on cable. Biden received 14 million votes, but Harris is the nominee, and no one voted for her.

Biden voluntarily dropped out of the race for President. No matter how many Democrats wanted a new candidate or what the polls said, no one forced Biden out. It was his choice. So, he ended his candidacy before he was officially chosen as the Democratic standard bearer by the delegates. He released them, so they were unbound and free to vote for any candidate. Those are the rules. They're not too hard to understand.

What do the Republicans who spew this bullshit think, Biden drops out and Trump wins by forfeit? I can think of a number of reasons that a presumptive nominee, or even an official nominee, may not be able to continue his or her candidacy up to election day. The opponent doesn't win by forfeit.

What a fucking silly argument.

[yardwork]

1. When I voted for Biden in the primary, I assumed Harris would be the VP.

I voted for the Biden Harris ticket. The VP takes over as president if the president steps down.

In any case, it's none of the Republicans' business who the Democrats choose as our candidate.

[eppur_se_muova]

30. I believe this is how the party leadership views it, and the rules probably reflect that.

Slightly different rules when the candidate is the incumbent, and already has a VP. Any candidate who was going to change VP would be expected/obligated to announce that before running in the primaries. That may be more of a norm than a formal rule, but Dems follow norms even when Uglicans refuse to honor them.

[ms liberty]

2. I see it as voting for a ticket not just Biden. Harris succeeding him if necessary was built in to the decision

[Scrivener7]

3. It's smoke. And stupid. Let them spin.

[BattleRow]

20. They have failed to blind

us with their alleged brilliance,so they will attempt to baffle us with their bottomless pit of bullshit!

[bullimiami]

4. They spew bullshit because they have to yap 24/7 about something.

And this is what rattles around their little brains.

[Gaytano70]

9. MAGA Moron Assholes Griping Again

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

34. Let them gripe. I can't wait to see their heads explode after

the final election results show Harris beating Trump like a dirty rug

[mucholderthandirt]

41. Needs to be repeated and shared.

MORON ASSHOLES GRIPING AGAIN

Shout it from the rooftops. This is good.

[BattleRow]

42. Making America

Gullible Again

[Walleye]

5. Oh goddamn them all, it's our party. We can pick a nominee however we want.

We could pick our nominee by spinning a wheel of fortune if we wanted. They don’t like the nominee of their own party apparently. Also, they don’t understand basic American politics. The party picks the nominee then people get to vote.

[Conjuay]

23. Hey, if we wanted to pick a serial rapist, felon, and blathering fool

for our ticket, they would love it!
It would level the playing field.

[Dennis Donovan]

6. No one voted for Calvin Coolidge, Harry Truman, LBJ or Gerald Ford

Well, Gerald Ford was selected by the US Senate. But you get the gist.

[superpatriotman]

7. The ticket was Biden/Harris

Every single one of us voted for Harris.

[2naSalit]

8. They also cheat...

At everything.

[D23MIURG23]

10. They don't want a candidate they haven't spent years targeting with smear campaigns and sham congressional hearings.

They've been caught with their pants down.

The problem is that people actually like Harris and WANT to vote for her. If their argument actually mattered to anyone, that person could refuse to vote for Harris or Democrats. As far as I can tell, no one who might have voted for Biden is actually mad about Harris taking his place.

[philf99]

11. In presidential elections

You don’t vote for the candidate.

In the general election you are voting for a slate of electors. We have seen instances of unfaithful electors.

In presidential primaries you vote for a slate of delegates. In this case the candidate has dropped out (his choice) and the elected delegates can vote for whoever they choose.

Maybe too difficult for the magats to figure out.

[Bucky]

13. I love turning their condescending electoral college arguments against them!

😆 well done!

If I have to hear the pedantic numbskulled "we're a republic, not a democracy" rant one more time, my head will explode. Once again they pretend to not understand a country, like a person, can be two things at once.

[Bucky]

12. How to respond

"Trump is a con artist who offers no solutions to the problems of inflation, housing prices, homelessness, crime, or the environment. He used the White House just to rake in half a billion dollars in graft and started a pointless trade war with China that put the country into a recession before ignoring the clear warnings about Covid 19 coming for our population."

[IronLionZion]

14. Because they are afraid they will lose

Harris's momentum scares them. I still love how the GOP were completely unprepared for this possibility.

[gab13by13]

15. There are no more Republicans

and I refuse to talk or listen to Magats about politics.

[usregimechange]

16. Strange weird oddball gobblity gook from a patch of wackadoodles

[Botany]

17. Pure codswallop

Republicans are now concerned about the sanctity of a democrat’s vote? This is just a
made up talking point by the right.

[JI7]

18. Hillary got more votes than Trump

[Farmer-Rick]

19. Ohhhhhh

That's what they expected to happen.

So, pedo Trump and his corporate media, social media, Christian Nationalists and Russian troll enablers all went out and beat the 'Biden is too old and must drop out' drum constantly. But they expected Democrats would bow out and give over the election to pedo Trump. Or that if we did replace him, it would get us infighting, or picking a weaker opponent.

Then Biden did just what they wanted him to do and they are unhappy. They thought it would mean Trump automatically would win. But there were so many other possibilities besides Democrats just throwing up their hands and saying I quit.

They never thought out their stupid idea. There were other options for Dems for anyone to think Biden stepping down would automatically be a win for Trump.

But of course Pedo Trump can't think straight and even his pal Putin can't get the campaign on the road to a win. Maybe Musk's Nazi media platform will help.

[AlexSFCA]

21. they think they can stir up division among dems but we are steady and united

We have not seen any challengers to Harris from any dem and 99% of delegates already pledged to Harris. It’s not working. All dems I know are excited and far more enthusiastic about Harris. Even Pence posted a rare (first ever?) good thing about Biden’s courage to drop out of the race for the good of the country which essentially read like an endorsement of Harris since he didn’t step away from the presidency, only from running again.

[Jarqui]

22. The lying by the Trump GOP is rampant online.

I'm fighting it but wow - there's so much intentional misinformation.

[Ray Bruns]

24. "What do the Republicans who spew this bullshit think, Biden drops out and Trump wins by forfeit?"

They are wishing that was the case or to have someone make Biden be the nominee. They’re insane.

[Mr. Mustard 2023]

25. Democrats played hardball and

the Republicons are whining about it. Boo hoo, oh noes.

Republicons - are snowflakes.

[GreenWave]

26. To paraphrase the great LBJ, "Let's listen to what these fucking nonsensical Republicans have to say"...

"because they are getting fewer and fewer in number as the days go by!"

[czarjak]

27. The straws do not grasp themselves.

[ancianita]

28. Republican nonsense is that 14 million ONLY voted for Biden when they REALLY voted for Biden/HARRIS.

More proof that they are as stupid as their leader.

[whopis01]

29. They assumed that Biden dropping out would lead to infighting in the party

They so badly wanted Biden dropping out to lead to infighting in the party.

They were convinced that Trump would be up against a weak, faltering Biden* or a party in disarray with an internal power struggle.

They thought they had this in the bag. So much so they didn't even try to gain center ground with their VP pick. From their point of view, everything was falling in place for a MAGA sweep. Biden was falling apart, Trump was invincible/ordained by God after surviving an assassination attempt. All of the imagery, albeit on the surface only and/or pushed by the media, was the strong Trump leading the party to victory over the feeble Democrats.

It didn't last. People united behind Kamala. Biden gained immense respect for his decision. Now the imagery is strength, unity, and stability with Harris and chaos with Trump.

They are desperate to change that, and all they can do is push lie after lie to try and convince people that the Democratic party is in disarray. They are failing and will continue to do so.

Now they will be talking about what a bad choice Harris made for VP. How she betrayed certain groups within the party by choosing Waltz over others. How people who supported other VP choices are turning against her. And so on and so on. This too will fail.



(* I am referring to their view of Biden - not trying say that Biden was actually weak or faltering in reality)


edited to add:
I think a lot of this comes from their thoughts on what would happen to the Republican party if Trump were to step down or otherwise not be able to run. Who would be able to unify them in that sort of chaos? How much struggle for power would there be then?

[Sailingdiver]

31. if it's coming from the gop

I usually disregard. Especially if constantly reiterated by the cult wing of the gop.

[mwb970]

32. A trump cultist I know weeps great crocodile tears for Biden primary voters.

"They were disenfranchised!" he wails, speaking of his sworn enemies. "It's so unfair to them!"

Interestingly, the Biden primary voters themselves are not complaining. Just the trump cultists. Hmm.

[Zilli]

33. Anything they can do to quash the voice of We The People.

[relayerbob]

35. I voted Biden-Harris

With the expectation that if something happened to him, Harris would be President.

[jcgoldie]

36. Sorry maga but you support the dude who tried to overturn the will of the people in the last election...

You forfeit all rights to attempt to take the high ground on the issue of democracy.

[Pototan]

39. You may have a point

if I could figure out what you're talking about.

I generally disregard a reply from a 5-post newbie with no donation star, who criticizes a DUers post.

You make me suspicious.

[Charging Triceratops]

38. MAGAts are idiots

Primary votes are for delegates, not candidates. A primary is a party mechanism, not a general election. I've had to school the paste-eating family MAGAts on this basic fact.

[Brainfodder]

40. The party leader calls her DUMB, whatcha afraid of a DUMB DUMB for?

THAT level of DUH that until this jackass, most of us didn't know existed?

The same party of weirdos with MTG/Boobert/Mitch among others in their ranks, someone should do a parody: Weirdos
If 10m was given for each public figure/weirdo in their party, how many weeks we will need to set aside for this thing?

[Sky Jewels]

43. Yeah, this a coup d'etat, but January 6 was not...

according to these treasonous POSes. Fuck them.

[wryter2000]

44. They're just trying to set us against each other

As if people who defended Biden wouldn’t accept Harris. Didn’t work

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. Nobody voted for Biden.

Democrats voted for delegates who pledged to Biden. Biden released the delegates.

The delegates voted for Harris.

It's called a "representative democracy".

[bearsfootball516]

46. It's a useless argument, because they have nothing.

[Ping Tung]

47. How long before they accuse him of being an illegal alien and a thief because he stole a cookie from the cookie jar?