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Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 10:15 AM Aug 2024

I think Ohio might be in play because of Walz

I grew up in Ohio and served in the military. I worked horse and dairy farms growing up in rural farms and my father was a West Virginia hillbilly who sought a better life in the military and then the auto industry after serving 28 years in the Air Force and National Guard, much like Walz. His message and character resonate with me. When I first ready JD Vance’s book, I knew it was trash when all my friends said it was about someone like me (I eventually went into tech and now in cybersecurity for more than 15 years). Why was Vance’s story trash? Because he basically missed all the key points that most people in Appalachia have to deal with. It’s not addiction by the way… it’s extreme corporate greed by mine owners who don’t give a damn for the workers. My Uncle, who owned three mines, was good to his men and worked along side of them. I made beer runs with him on Fridays to bring his workers “happy hour” and he held a bbq every week for them. He made sure they all were taken care of and gave them good pay and benefits. Vance’s book reads like Munchausen by proxy the way he throws his mom under the bus. I hated it.

Anyway, I can tell Walz’s story is authentic and he is the real deal. A common man for the people who not only understands the common man’s plight, but appreciates the people and has walked the walk.

I am so excited for this and I can honestly say I have not been this excited for a ticket in my life. Obama was greatness. This ticket has legendary potential. I just maxed our contributions for the general and am planning down ticket donations. Lets. Fucking. gooooooooooo!

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Diamond_Dog

(40,389 posts)
1. I am cautiously optimistic about Ohio, too
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 10:29 AM
Aug 2024

Lifelong Ohioan here.

Our state is gerrymandered to death and we’ve been trying to fix that for years.

And I think there are more Democrats and people who lean Dem here than most realize. Hopefully this new exciting energy will get them to the polls.

I read Vance’s book when it first came out and disliked it as well. He basically calls everyone in his town “lazy” who got beaten down in bad circumstances. He’s done zero since he left to help that area prosper.

unblock

(56,169 posts)
2. If we win Ohio. It's game over.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 2024

Donnie does not have a plausible path to victory without Ohio.

Well, not counting his coup plans....

themaguffin

(5,156 posts)
3. I would love it, but this was 2020: trump 3,154,834 --- Biden 2,679,165
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 11:17 AM
Aug 2024

This isn't 2020 and many things are different, but that's quite a gap.

Vinca

(53,839 posts)
5. I've always wondered how Ohio would shake out given the abortion rights activity there.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 11:21 AM
Aug 2024

lees1975

(7,009 posts)
7. Dems didn't put any money in Ohio in 2020. Their turnout in the big Democratic counties was down more than 10%.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 12:33 PM
Aug 2024

J.D. Vance isn't really an anchor for the in-state vote. With the pro-choice referendum on the ballot, and an infusion of cash to help Sherrod Brown, getting the vote totals among black voters back up to near Obama levels in the big counties ought to do it. My guess is that Ohio is 50-50. And I think her odds are better than that in North Carolina and Florida.

Blue Full Moon

(3,406 posts)
8. Ohio is always in play
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 01:05 PM
Aug 2024

A special election in August 2023 was for a referendum to make it harder for voter-led initiatives to amend the Ohio State Constitution to be proposed and approved. It failed and it's failure of this issue cleared the way cleared the way for Issue 1 & 2 to be passed. It had an unusually high voter turnout. LaRose tried his best to get Issues 1 & 2 off the ballot and wasted taxpayers money to do it. Ohio voters thwarted DeWine and LaRose in the last 3 elections
Issue 1 was reproductive health and Issue 2 legalized marijuana.

dsc

(53,377 posts)
9. I wish that were true but Ohio is pretty much a lost cause
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 01:13 PM
Aug 2024

Brown and Obama are the only Democrats who have won statewide since 2006 (other than a Supreme Court race). The Ryan Vance race sealed it for me. Ryan was, on paper, the best candidate we could have hoped for while Vance was awful in what was a Democratic year. All of that, and he did about as well as Biden did. Brown has won, frankly I am worried for him this time, but he is a unicorn.

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