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Votevets.org sets the record straight on Walz military record (Original Post) Tanuki Aug 2024 OP
Great graphic - this should be on MSNBC yorkster Aug 2024 #1
Red lies and Blue truth... Harker Aug 2024 #12
Oh I Rebl2 Aug 2024 #27
Well, don't know about earlier but Joy Reid yorkster Aug 2024 #35
Ali Velshi just corrected Vance in detail about yorkster Aug 2024 #36
Good! Rebl2 Aug 2024 #43
Good to know. Old Crank Aug 2024 #2
Thank you!! SWBTATTReg Aug 2024 #3
Vote Vets will not let Governor Walz be swiftboated LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #4
So I'm curious, he went in at 18 but to the National Guard or regular army? A friend says he was regular Army but I BamaRefugee Aug 2024 #5
Everything I've seen says 24 years National Guard. nt Phoenix61 Aug 2024 #6
More here on his record, from Military.com Tanuki Aug 2024 #8
Army National Guard IronLionZion Aug 2024 #10
From what I've read COL Mustard Aug 2024 #11
i watched a clip of him speaking today, barbtries Aug 2024 #17
K&R UTUSN Aug 2024 #7
Look Ma, no clicks on Twitler, a screenshot! usonian Aug 2024 #9
So the GOP has already started lying about a service member's service record. Some things never change. Martin68 Aug 2024 #13
My husband had a conversation with Tim in 2005 about considerating retiring from the MN ANG. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #14
There is a law against... FeelingBlue Aug 2024 #15
I prefer a non soldier with faked bone spurs who wasn't captured........... joanbarnes Aug 2024 #16
And it's not even October yet. lpbk2713 Aug 2024 #18
And it's already boring as hell, too. BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #30
Great graphic! Thank you, Tanuki. wordstroken Aug 2024 #19
I like voteVets surfered Aug 2024 #20
Thanks! Bookmarking... highplainsdem Aug 2024 #21
Heres Mark Hertling, ex-Commanding General US Army Europe and 7th Army, on Walz's rank: Emrys Aug 2024 #22
Do these idiots realize this is only going to drive more veterans and current enlisteds away? PortTack Aug 2024 #23
Most vets I know don't get into dick comparing contests about how much combat they served in... Wounded Bear Aug 2024 #24
They are so jealous, we have a such an incredible ticket.. Butterflylady Aug 2024 #25
Cpl. Vance, you know what they say about glass houses. Crowman2009 Aug 2024 #26
I hope some do. GaYellowDawg Aug 2024 #38
There is a Maga Florida Republican Congressman Farmer-Rick Aug 2024 #28
It's certainly possible but MustLoveBeagles Aug 2024 #40
"BuT iT's JuSt LiKe 20o4! He'S bEinG sWiFtbOatEd! WhAt aRe wE gOing tO dO!11" BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #29
No swift boating this time around, please. BadgerMom Aug 2024 #31
I'm glad musclecar6 Aug 2024 #32
Thank you VoteVets MustLoveBeagles Aug 2024 #41
It looks like I owe VoteVets another check. TomSlick Aug 2024 #33
Mahalo, Tanuki & VoteVets! Cha Aug 2024 #34
GOP Teabaggers got away with Swiftboating John Kerry. Don't ever let it happen again, Dems Hekate Aug 2024 #37
Don't forget Max Cleland MustLoveBeagles Aug 2024 #42
I will never forget Max Cleland. You wonder how GOPers can even sleep at night. Hekate Aug 2024 #44
My message to VD Dunce: lastlib Aug 2024 #39
This is a Job for Rachel Maddow Beowulf42 Aug 2024 #45

yorkster

(2,574 posts)
1. Great graphic - this should be on MSNBC
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 01:13 PM
Aug 2024

right after they play the Vance total BS
Stolen Valor clip.

yorkster

(2,574 posts)
35. Well, don't know about earlier but Joy Reid
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 08:01 PM
Aug 2024

played the Vance clip and then read the correction. I think it was from Votevets but missed the beginning.

yorkster

(2,574 posts)
36. Ali Velshi just corrected Vance in detail about
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 08:13 PM
Aug 2024

Walz' military record. He's in for Alex Wagner.

BamaRefugee

(3,722 posts)
5. So I'm curious, he went in at 18 but to the National Guard or regular army? A friend says he was regular Army but I
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 01:15 PM
Aug 2024

can't find that info.
NOT A NEGATIVE POST! He seems to be just what we NEED!!!!!

Tanuki

(15,466 posts)
8. More here on his record, from Military.com
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 01:28 PM
Aug 2024
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/06/tim-walz-who-spent-decades-enlisted-soldier-brings-years-of-work-vets-issues-dem-ticket.html%3famp

"A retired Army National Guard noncommissioned officer who was once the top Democrat on the House Veterans Affairs Committee could become the next vice president.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris announced Tuesday
.....
Patrick Murphy, an Army veteran who was Walz' roommate when they were both freshmen in Congress, called Walz a "soldier's soldier."

"The two largest federal agencies are DoD and the VA, so someone who has intimate knowledge of both is incredibly important," Murphy, who served as Army under secretary during the Obama administration, said in a phone interview with Military.com. "He was a field artilleryman who has tinnitus as diagnosed by the VA, so he understands the plight of our brother and sister veterans."

Walz enlisted in the Army National Guard in Nebraska in 1981 and retired honorably in 2005 as the top enlisted soldier for 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery Regiment, in the Minnesota National Guard, according to a copy of his records provided by the Minnesota Guard. He reached the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role, but he officially retired as a master sergeant for benefits purposes because he didn't finish a required training course, according to the records and a statement from the Minnesota Guard.
...
His Guard career included responding to natural disasters in the United States, as well as a deployment to Italy to support U.S. operations in Afghanistan, according to a 2018 article by Minnesota Public Radio. Walz earned several awards, including the Army Commendation Medal and two Army Achievement Medals, according to his military records. Working a civilian job as a high school teacher and football coach, the Nebraska native was also named that state's Citizen Soldier of the Year in 1989, according to official biographies." (More)

COL Mustard

(7,041 posts)
11. From what I've read
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 01:48 PM
Aug 2024

He enlisted at 17 in the National Guard. Not sure which state. He rose through the ranks to become a CSM (Command Sergeant Major) but didn't complete some coursework for the Sergeants Major Academy so when he retired it was one grade lower as Master Sergeant.

barbtries

(30,040 posts)
17. i watched a clip of him speaking today,
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 02:26 PM
Aug 2024

and he said at 17 he enlisted in the National Guard, and served for 24 years.

Martin68

(24,815 posts)
13. So the GOP has already started lying about a service member's service record. Some things never change.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 02:05 PM
Aug 2024

They will never be forgiven for what they did to John Kerry.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,258 posts)
14. My husband had a conversation with Tim in 2005 about considerating retiring from the MN ANG.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 02:11 PM
Aug 2024

As he had filed with the FEC , etc., as a candidate for Congress. Tim was still teaching at the time as well.

So running for Congress took much of his time. The 1st CD runs the length of southern Minnesota from Wisconsin to the East to South Dakota to the West. There is a lot of rural areas between Sioux Falls to Winona with Rochester just 50 miles from the Wisconsin border.

Tim did not retire under false circumstances.

FeelingBlue

(763 posts)
15. There is a law against...
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 02:15 PM
Aug 2024

lying about one's own military history. I would like the Dems to introduce a law against lying about someone else's military record. Let's see the right try to defeat that.

wordstroken

(683 posts)
19. Great graphic! Thank you, Tanuki.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 02:38 PM
Aug 2024

We need to be ready with the facts if ever there’s doubt — or outright lies.

WHEN WE FIGHT, WE WIN!!
HARRIS WALZ 2024

Emrys

(8,090 posts)
22. Heres Mark Hertling, ex-Commanding General US Army Europe and 7th Army, on Walz's rank:
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 02:49 PM
Aug 2024
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling

Many followers not familiar with the military are asking me “so what’s the big deal about a command sergeant major?”

Walz joined at 18 as a private. Rose through the NCO (sergeant) ranks, each requiring extreme competence at increasingly demanding jobs with more people & responsibility at every rank.

When you reach “Master Sergeant” you are selected to serve as a First Sergeant (1SG) of a unit…if you’re good enough. Then, those 1SGTs compete for selection to Sergeant Major. Only the best Sergeant Majors are selected for Command Sergeant Major (CSM) billets.

CSMs serve as the senior enlisted person in the unit and the advisor to Commanders at battalion and above. Having served with dozens of CSMs as my unit & command “battle buddy” I will attest they were all awesome.

They know what they’re doing. They uphold standards. They speak their minds to all ranks (private to generals). They’re not afraid of getting bad news because they know how to fix things when they go wrong. And they serve the command (their commander and their soldiers) with a selfless integrity and a complete dedication.

During social events and informal occasions, they’re usually a whole bunch of fun. And they always have great stories. But they’re always professional.

So, those are my thoughts on Command Sergeants Major. While I don’t know the details of @GovTimWalz career wearing the cloth of our country, just the fact that he volunteered to serve and wore the CSM rank tells me a lot about him.



PortTack

(34,946 posts)
23. Do these idiots realize this is only going to drive more veterans and current enlisteds away?
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 03:18 PM
Aug 2024

Just like the orange degenerate..open mouth and speak lies! Good luck with that

Wounded Bear

(60,977 posts)
24. Most vets I know don't get into dick comparing contests about how much combat they served in...
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 03:29 PM
Aug 2024

Because they know that whether or not one actually served in combat is usually not their decision. Most vets served in non-combat jobs, like Couchboy.

As the old saying goes, They also serve who only stand and wait.

Vance is an asshole, just like his boss. MSGT Walz served honorably in the billets he was assigned to.

Butterflylady

(4,038 posts)
25. They are so jealous, we have a such an incredible ticket..
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 03:45 PM
Aug 2024

And all they have is dough boy and Vance.

Crowman2009

(2,885 posts)
26. Cpl. Vance, you know what they say about glass houses.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 03:59 PM
Aug 2024

I should know, because I was at the same base he was and at the same time during my Iraq deployment. That glorified HQ sqadron desk jockey better hope some embarrassing videos/photos don't emerge.

GaYellowDawg

(4,895 posts)
38. I hope some do.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 01:09 AM
Aug 2024

"Stolen valor" was taking it way too far. It's clear he can match his orange daddy for vileness.

Farmer-Rick

(11,586 posts)
28. There is a Maga Florida Republican Congressman
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 04:16 PM
Aug 2024

Named Mike Waltz and when I googled Tim Walz, I got his bio.

Mike claims to be a combat decorated Green Beret with 4 bronze stars. So, maybe they are getting them confused.

MustLoveBeagles

(12,768 posts)
40. It's certainly possible but
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 09:06 AM
Aug 2024

I think Vance knew exactly what he was doing. It's shameful to lie about a fellow vet.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
32. I'm glad
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 06:30 PM
Aug 2024

Votevets are putting good information out there to counter the usual lies that our favorite Republican party comes up with. Anyone who volunteers to join the military nowadays, where there isn’t a draft in force at this time, deserves our Respect, not denigrating lies.

While the Maga morons are at what about the bone spurs. What ridiculous excuse do you have to justify trump’s behavior back during the Vietnam war when all of us at that time either got drafted or enlisted in most cases. Of course, our hero with his mouth, the bully coward that he is, came up with that bone spurs bullshit to Dodge the draft. Then of course he has the audacity to denigrate John McCain, and other military people calling them suckers and losers. . Tim Walz is someone to be honored and respected for his service. The orange National disgrace isn’t worthy to even shine Tim’s shoes.

TomSlick

(11,989 posts)
33. It looks like I owe VoteVets another check.
Wed Aug 7, 2024, 06:56 PM
Aug 2024

I do not appreciate - one damned bit - seeing an unjustified attack on a veteran with a long, honorable carrier.

Hekate

(95,577 posts)
37. GOP Teabaggers got away with Swiftboating John Kerry. Don't ever let it happen again, Dems
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 12:13 AM
Aug 2024

Never. Again.

Many thanks for the info, Tanuki — and many thanks to Vote.Vets

Beowulf42

(238 posts)
45. This is a Job for Rachel Maddow
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 11:37 AM
Aug 2024

We can't wait for Rachel Maddow to analyze this graphic on her show. It's time for a little truth telling on the best news show we got.

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