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BREAKING: Donald Trump gets nightmare news as the renowned Cook Political Report shifts Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada towards Kamala Harris as she gains steam.
And it gets even better
All three of the crucial states had been considered lean Republican at the beginning of July when Joe Biden was still the presumptive nominee.
Now, these states are considered a toss up as more and more polls show Harris gaining ground.
For the first time in a long time, Democrats are united and energized, while Republicans are on their heels. Unforced errors from both Trump and his vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance have shifted the media spotlight from Bidens age to Trumps liabilities, said Cook Editor-in-Chief Amy Walter.
In other words, the presidential contest has moved from one that was Trumps to lose to a much more competitive contest, she added.
Bottom line: Things look a lot better for Democrats today than they did a few weeks ago, but Trump is looking stronger now than he did in 2020. This is a Toss Up, she said.
Maeve
(43,079 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(19,258 posts)THAT'S going to change things even more for the Harris/Walz ticket.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Haven't seen one TSF ad
MagickMuffin
(17,257 posts)I think he is weaker and getting weaker by the minute!
moonscape
(5,422 posts)to him to (incredibly) remember how awful he is.
EYESORE 9001
(27,674 posts)ITAL
(907 posts)So from that standpoint, Trump probably does look better on paper now than he did in August of 2020 since he's been much more competitive in polling to this point.
lees1975
(6,173 posts)Paid polls, perhaps. I'm still not convinced that Biden wasn't going to win this by a fair margin. It's now looking like it is heading for a landslide.
ITAL
(907 posts)Biden led by an average of 8.8% across all polling.
Four years later Harris leads by an average of 2.1%. Trump and Biden were much closer in '24 than in '20. Now Harris is trending upwards, and in the days to come that lead is gonna grow, and she will likely approach Biden's lead. However, it's also true that Trump has polled better this go round than four years ago.
lees1975
(6,173 posts)I'm not convinced. There's usually some precipitating event or cause that changes numbers over the course of a year. In this instance, while the media has hammered about Biden's age, that's largely a right wing argument. I'd like to know what the raw numbers were, and what led the pollsters to play follow the leader in putting the factors into play that changed the numbers.
The factor obviously was the soft support Biden had among many Democrats and Independents this go round because of his age, or Gaza, or something else. It was definitely real.
As for four years ago, the polls actually under reported Trump's strength, as Biden had an 8.4 point lead in the national average on election day 2020, and won by 4.5 percent.
ananda
(31,043 posts)That idea was manufactured by a manipulative, rightwing media
and polling that skewed to the right.
However, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are really smokin' it.
I think it will be a decisive win!
Deminpenn
(16,372 posts)It's been my observation that 2nd acts don't play well in American politics. That they rarely do as well as they did the first time. This is Trump's 3rd act. He's not going to get more votes than he did in 2020.
BonnieJW
(2,636 posts)I was surprised to read that too. I think people are running away from him. They aren't even showing up. The contrast between his bitching and normal Americans is stark. He doesn't know how to pivot and wouldn't even if he could.
yellowcanine
(36,353 posts)A statement like that completely ignores the trend lines which are all going against Trump.
NonPC
(405 posts)The press just can't help themselves. Look at the interviews yesterday (?) on CBS with AOC and CNN with Al Franken. These hacks are desperate to get a new stupid line of crap started.
jls4561
(1,632 posts)Damn that autocorrect.
Blue Owl
(55,013 posts)Johnny2X2X
(21,968 posts)He's due for a total meltdown where he just completely loses it.
mitch96
(14,817 posts)displacedvermoter
(3,370 posts)"looking stronger now than he did in 2020" when he had not been convicted of multiple felonies, not been proved to be a rapist, not been proven to be a business cheat owing $500 million in penalties, and not just selected the worst vice president candidate ever (yes, I am giving him that title).
He also has Bob Kennedy in the race who looks to take a percentage of his craziest supporters.
I don't see it.
lees1975
(6,173 posts)I'd say the Cook report leans Republican in its evaluation. Trump's hand picked and endorsed candidate for Governor of Arizona lost in 2022, and she's now fairly far behind in the Senate race. I wouldn't have started Arizona out as leaning anything, it should have been, at very least, a toss up.
Nevada is an enigma. A difference in 10% turnout between 2020 and 2022 cost their governor, but the Democratic senator survived. I read that their current governor has a 35% approval rating. It's fertile ground for Democrats to win, by 2-3%. And while Georgia does have Republicans in the governor's mansion and in statewide office, they're not Trumpie Republicans. If I were betting, I'd say that the population growth there from the Northeast, and a good turnout in Atlanta and the collar counties gets Harris its 16 electoral votes.
awesomerwb1
(4,637 posts)"Unforced errors"??
valleyrogue
(1,267 posts)it isn't because of Harris being the de facto nominee is why the trend. It was trending that way anyway.
The issue has always been about Trump. Trump was NEVER going to get another term as he is a known quantity. It would be much different if there had been a different GOP ticket. Abortion is also going to weigh heavily in the election no matter who the Democratic nominee would be.
All Harris and Walz have to do is retain the same states Biden won and would have won anyway, and the election will be over. The Dobbs decision fallout is the huge wildcard in here this time around.
misanthrope
(8,311 posts)Yesterday's news that the MAGA-infested Georgia election board now has discretion for Trump-friendly hijinks casts a long shadow across Peach State voting outcomes.
Blue_playwright
(1,577 posts)It's not a lot in the electoral college, but the Mormons are talking about endorsing Harris/Walz because Trump is so horrific they just can't do it. That gets the W in Utah and also hits other states that have larger Mormon populations.
wryter2000
(47,640 posts)He was the incumbent president. I dont buy this toss up crap. Next week theyll be telling us the bloom is off the Dem rose. They are so full of it.
not fooled
(6,133 posts)because of the number of people who still support the traitor.
ShazzieB
(19,063 posts)I really have to question this assertion. I mean, where was Walter in 2020? I seem to remember things quite differently! Sounds like "both sider" gaslighting to me.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Smallish, 12" x12", paper. Neither looked to be newly installed. Saw no other political signage of any stripe. Wisconsin has had hell to pay with its share of Republican mis-guidance over the last decades. Voters in the rural areas of Wisconsin and the rest of the country will hopefully lose their misappropriated enthusiasm for Republican disruption this season. They've surely seen no benefit from it. The clown show may fail to draw a second crowd after disappointing the first. Even the most unsophisticated rubes eventually catch on to having their good natured hospitality abused.