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Arkansas Granny

(31,890 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:21 AM Sep 2024

Scoop: Generals come to Harris' defense on Afghanistan

Ten generals and admirals are mobilizing to defend Vice President Kamala Harris from Republican attempts to tie her to the chaotic 2021 U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Why it matters: The withdrawal has emerged as a major campaign issue in the lead-up to Tuesday's presidential debate, with Harris coming under fire from former President Trump, House Republicans and parents of victims of the Abbey Gate suicide attack, which killed 13 American service members.

The push to defend Harris comes from retired military brass, including three with four-stars: Admiral Steve Abbot, who served as deputy homeland security advisor to George W. Bush, Gen. Lloyd W. Newton and Gen. Larry R. Ellis, who has never previously endorsed a political candidate.
Some of the military officials are also fanning out on TV this week to defend Harris' record, two people familiar with the plans told Axios.

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/09/generals-defend-harris-us-withdrawal-afghanistan?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial


I wonder if this will have any effect on the MAGAts. Sadly, I doubt it.
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Scoop: Generals come to Harris' defense on Afghanistan (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Sep 2024 OP
God could appear before a magaloon Beachnutt Sep 2024 #1
No, the Magas would rather repeat Russian propaganda than have to think with their poor little brains Walleye Sep 2024 #2
Instead of talking about the withdrawal, they should be talking about the... Hugin Sep 2024 #3
Soundly disagree. The guys with stars on their shoulders are retired and can set the record straight on withdrawal Attilatheblond Sep 2024 #4
You and I understand that... However, Hugin Sep 2024 #5
I wish their were a way to implement a game asking questions about travelingthrulife Sep 2024 #7
Turn it into a fact check bounty... Hugin Sep 2024 #9
Gonna disagree again Attilatheblond Sep 2024 #11
Statement on the Afghanistan withdrawal... Hugin Sep 2024 #12
Thanks for this! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #17
Never on MAGAts SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #6
Made up controversy newdeal2 Sep 2024 #8
MAGA would gladly drink the Kool-Aid if Trump told them to. Like Nazis SS, they're the true believers and irredeemable. surfered Sep 2024 #10
"withdrawal has emerged as a major campaign issue" William Seger Sep 2024 #13
If the MAGAts knew even 10% of what we do, they wouldn't still be MAGAts? Brainfodder Sep 2024 #14
When this comes up all VP Harris has to say to TSF is... Hope22 Sep 2024 #15
Why waste your time wondering? ECL213 Sep 2024 #16
The MAGAts prefer the child rapist and his couch fucking VP RainCaster Sep 2024 #18
U.S. review of chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal blames Trump LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #19
that piece of crap war went on for 20 years Skittles Sep 2024 #20

Beachnutt

(8,241 posts)
1. God could appear before a magaloon
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:26 AM
Sep 2024

and state facts and truths about trump and they would call him a liar.
We need to write the loons off and move on.

Walleye

(36,774 posts)
2. No, the Magas would rather repeat Russian propaganda than have to think with their poor little brains
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:28 AM
Sep 2024

Hugin

(34,951 posts)
3. Instead of talking about the withdrawal, they should be talking about the...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:32 AM
Sep 2024

ANC bullshit photo op. Talking about the withdrawal, even in defense, only makes it seem like there’s something there worth talking about.

Attilatheblond

(4,827 posts)
4. Soundly disagree. The guys with stars on their shoulders are retired and can set the record straight on withdrawal
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:42 AM
Sep 2024

Trump let a bunch of bad guys go free, without consulting the government of Afghanistan. He set an arbitrary date for withdrawal without any planning for it or input from the military. He left the mess on the Resolute Desk with no hint as to how to execute his ill conceived agreement to withdraw.

Like always, he took a crap on the world and left it for others to clean up. To the retired guys with stars on their shoulders, THAT was inexcusable and it cost lives that should not have been lost. Adding more graves at ANC is a tad more awful than the self serving photo op Trump did recently. He created more widows by his hand holding with the Taliban.

Hugin

(34,951 posts)
5. You and I understand that... However,
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:55 AM
Sep 2024

Nuance is completely lost in the media. When the managed media misinformed masses listen to these reports at all, they only read the headlines and they see, “Some general denies the Afghanistan withdrawal was a fiasco.”, Which automatically translates in their minds as, “It was.” That’s all they will ever know about it. No minds are changed, no hearts won.

travelingthrulife

(1,107 posts)
7. I wish their were a way to implement a game asking questions about
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:09 AM
Sep 2024

controversial issues that the media is misrepresenting and then giving the real answer along with some other choices. People love to play games now. Seems like there is an endless supply of deliberate obfuscations to correct.

Hugin

(34,951 posts)
9. Turn it into a fact check bounty...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:18 AM
Sep 2024

Provide a monetary incentive to out the lies. The bigger the lie, the bigger the payoff. It would be more popular than the lottery.

Here’s the Harris/Walz Campaign statement on Afghanistan:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219435250

It is outstanding.

SocialDemocrat61

(3,123 posts)
6. Never on MAGAts
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:00 AM
Sep 2024

The real problem is the corrupt corporate media. They have been blaming Biden for over 3 years and refuse to actually state the facts about the situation.

newdeal2

(1,207 posts)
8. Made up controversy
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:10 AM
Sep 2024

Literally years ago and now they bring this up because they have no winning issues.

surfered

(4,102 posts)
10. MAGA would gladly drink the Kool-Aid if Trump told them to. Like Nazis SS, they're the true believers and irredeemable.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:40 AM
Sep 2024

William Seger

(11,156 posts)
13. "withdrawal has emerged as a major campaign issue"
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:17 AM
Sep 2024

... should have been followed by, "... since Trump has been unable to identify any real issues."

Brainfodder

(7,181 posts)
14. If the MAGAts knew even 10% of what we do, they wouldn't still be MAGAts?
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:29 AM
Sep 2024

The ones still out there lying for the Crazy Unhinged Stupid Simp should be put on watch lists after the election?

Why doesn't the SS muzzle this shithead in some safe house after the debate and until the election, Dark Brandon is in charge, not Donold.


Hope22

(3,260 posts)
15. When this comes up all VP Harris has to say to TSF is...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:50 AM
Sep 2024

Donald you know full well that you set the withdrawal deadlines yourself in an agreement made on November 26th. Knowing you had lost the election you tied the hands of the incoming administration hoping it would blow up big time! These deaths are on your hands!

These guys use too many words…….

ECL213

(321 posts)
16. Why waste your time wondering?
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:02 AM
Sep 2024

Nothing has effect on MAGAts. They are deplorable. They are brainwashed. They belong to a cult. Dear Leader can do no wrong, because he was sent by God.

RainCaster

(11,733 posts)
18. The MAGAts prefer the child rapist and his couch fucking VP
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:07 AM
Sep 2024

To understand what these gentlemen are saying, they would have to read. That seems to be outside their wheelhouse.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,305 posts)
19. U.S. review of chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal blames Trump
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:45 AM
Sep 2024

The defense of these generals is consistent with the review of National Security Council released last year



https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-review-of-chaotic-afghanistan-withdrawal-blames-trump

WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. review led by the National Security Council of the chaotic 2021 withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan largely lays the blame on former President Donald Trump, saying President Joe Biden was “severely constrained” by the decisions of his predecessor.

The White House on Thursday publicly released a 12-page summary of the results of the so-called “ hotwash ” of U.S. policies around the ending of the nation’s longest war, taking little responsibility for its own actions during some of the darkest moments of Biden’s presidency.

The administration said most of the after-action reviews, which were transmitted privately to Congress on Thursday, were highly classified and would not be released publicly.

“President Biden’s choices for how to execute a withdrawal from Afghanistan were severely constrained by conditions created by his predecessor,” the White House summary states, noting that when Biden entered office, “the Taliban were in the strongest military position that they had been in since 2001, controlling or contesting nearly half of the country.”

Skittles

(160,711 posts)
20. that piece of crap war went on for 20 years
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:40 PM
Sep 2024

IT WAS NEVER GOING TO END WELL

and in the end, WHO was it that took out Osama? OH RIGHT, IT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA

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