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Why it matters: The withdrawal has emerged as a major campaign issue in the lead-up to Tuesday's presidential debate, with Harris coming under fire from former President Trump, House Republicans and parents of victims of the Abbey Gate suicide attack, which killed 13 American service members.
The push to defend Harris comes from retired military brass, including three with four-stars: Admiral Steve Abbot, who served as deputy homeland security advisor to George W. Bush, Gen. Lloyd W. Newton and Gen. Larry R. Ellis, who has never previously endorsed a political candidate.
Some of the military officials are also fanning out on TV this week to defend Harris' record, two people familiar with the plans told Axios.
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/09/generals-defend-harris-us-withdrawal-afghanistan?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial
I wonder if this will have any effect on the MAGAts. Sadly, I doubt it.

Beachnutt
(8,611 posts)and state facts and truths about trump and they would call him a liar.
We need to write the loons off and move on.
Walleye
(39,229 posts)Hugin
(35,959 posts)ANC bullshit photo op. Talking about the withdrawal, even in defense, only makes it seem like there’s something there worth talking about.
Attilatheblond
(5,562 posts)Trump let a bunch of bad guys go free, without consulting the government of Afghanistan. He set an arbitrary date for withdrawal without any planning for it or input from the military. He left the mess on the Resolute Desk with no hint as to how to execute his ill conceived agreement to withdraw.
Like always, he took a crap on the world and left it for others to clean up. To the retired guys with stars on their shoulders, THAT was inexcusable and it cost lives that should not have been lost. Adding more graves at ANC is a tad more awful than the self serving photo op Trump did recently. He created more widows by his hand holding with the Taliban.
Hugin
(35,959 posts)Nuance is completely lost in the media. When the managed media misinformed masses listen to these reports at all, they only read the headlines and they see, “Some general denies the Afghanistan withdrawal was a fiasco.”, Which automatically translates in their minds as, “It was.” That’s all they will ever know about it. No minds are changed, no hearts won.
travelingthrulife
(1,945 posts)controversial issues that the media is misrepresenting and then giving the real answer along with some other choices. People love to play games now. Seems like there is an endless supply of deliberate obfuscations to correct.
Hugin
(35,959 posts)Provide a monetary incentive to out the lies. The bigger the lie, the bigger the payoff. It would be more popular than the lottery.
Here’s the Harris/Walz Campaign statement on Afghanistan:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219435250
It is outstanding.
Attilatheblond
(5,562 posts)Have a good week
Hugin
(35,959 posts)I will leave it at what the campaign says as the last word.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219435250
LeftInTX
(32,761 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(3,957 posts)The real problem is the corrupt corporate media. They have been blaming Biden for over 3 years and refuse to actually state the facts about the situation.
newdeal2
(2,172 posts)Literally years ago and now they bring this up because they have no winning issues.
surfered
(5,870 posts)William Seger
(11,507 posts)... should have been followed by, "... since Trump has been unable to identify any real issues."
Brainfodder
(7,181 posts)The ones still out there lying for the Crazy Unhinged Stupid Simp should be put on watch lists after the election?
Why doesn't the SS muzzle this shithead in some safe house after the debate and until the election, Dark Brandon is in charge, not Donold.
Hope22
(3,806 posts)Donald you know full well that you set the withdrawal deadlines yourself in an agreement made on November 26th. Knowing you had lost the election you tied the hands of the incoming administration hoping it would blow up big time! These deaths are on your hands!
These guys use too many words…….
ECL213
(342 posts)Nothing has effect on MAGAts. They are deplorable. They are brainwashed. They belong to a cult. Dear Leader can do no wrong, because he was sent by God.
RainCaster
(12,488 posts)To understand what these gentlemen are saying, they would have to read. That seems to be outside their wheelhouse.
LetMyPeopleVote
(160,865 posts)The defense of these generals is consistent with the review of National Security Council released last year
Link to tweet
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-review-of-chaotic-afghanistan-withdrawal-blames-trump
The White House on Thursday publicly released a 12-page summary of the results of the so-called “ hotwash ” of U.S. policies around the ending of the nation’s longest war, taking little responsibility for its own actions during some of the darkest moments of Biden’s presidency.
The administration said most of the after-action reviews, which were transmitted privately to Congress on Thursday, were highly classified and would not be released publicly.
“President Biden’s choices for how to execute a withdrawal from Afghanistan were severely constrained by conditions created by his predecessor,” the White House summary states, noting that when Biden entered office, “the Taliban were in the strongest military position that they had been in since 2001, controlling or contesting nearly half of the country.”
Skittles
(163,057 posts)IT WAS NEVER GOING TO END WELL
and in the end, WHO was it that took out Osama? OH RIGHT, IT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA