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New Breed Leader

(894 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 04:19 PM Oct 2024

NYT: Elon Musk and Trump coordinating the largest election interference scheme in history





The New York Times has been able to confirm, for the first time, that there has been coordination between the Trump Campaign and Twitter, or in other words, Elon Musk. In a new article released this morning, the Times writes:

"The relationship has proved significant in other ways. After a reporter’s publication of hacked Trump campaign information last month, the campaign connected with X to prevent the circulation of links to the material on the platform, according to two people with knowledge of the events. X eventually blocked links to the material and suspended the reporter’s account."

The relationship at issue is the one between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. While that note is a small portion of the larger story which outlines the ever growing relationship between Musk and Trump, it underscores the benefits Trump has received since Musk has thrown his support behind the Trump campaign.

Earlier this year, there was reporting of hacked material obtained by a foreign power from the Trump campaign. According to the New York Times, the Trump campaign connected with Twitter to prevent the circulation of links to the released material and, as a result, Twitter actually suspended the reporter's account and blocked links to the material at issue.
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NYT: Elon Musk and Trump coordinating the largest election interference scheme in history (Original Post) New Breed Leader Oct 2024 OP
Might as well, neither will EVER be prosecuted...for anything. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #1
Because "confirming coordination" is not evidence of election interference. Notice that NYT says "what MAY BE ancianita Oct 2024 #9
If nothing else, slightlv Oct 2024 #18
The biggest... 2naSalit Oct 2024 #2
Musk has the ability to remotely activate millions of Teslas at the push of a button. PeaceWave Oct 2024 #3
I remember Elizabeth Warren saying something about a "wealth tax." Intractable Oct 2024 #4
Alien Enemies Act BlueInPhilly Oct 2024 #5
Yes, but once again NYtimes hides the real damage they are both doing. They either ignore or Bev54 Oct 2024 #6
Plausible, knowing the NYT. ancianita Oct 2024 #10
What happened to quit twitter day? joanbarnes Oct 2024 #7
Is this immigrant committing felonies? Treason? rubbersole Oct 2024 #8
Where is Vance on this? ramapo Oct 2024 #11
Prosecutable? Campaign donations in kind? paleotn Oct 2024 #12
Gee whiz where has that moniss Oct 2024 #13
National Enquirer stepped out, Dear_Prudence Oct 2024 #14
So what gets done about it? Where's the Justice department? lees1975 Oct 2024 #15
Will it be as successful as Tesla self-drive? dchill Oct 2024 #16
IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK birdographer Oct 2024 #17

ancianita

(42,910 posts)
9. Because "confirming coordination" is not evidence of election interference. Notice that NYT says "what MAY BE
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:42 PM
Oct 2024

the largest election interference SCHEME IN HISTORY. " Notice also that NYT doesn't say "confirming conspiracy," which also has to be proven.

Jumping to conclusions sets up the belief a crime's been committed, and then all the wondering that follows about why some law enforcement agency, say, the DOJ, is acting "too slow."

NYT gets clicks for this, esp with Elon and Trump being the subjects of the same "report." It could be something, but NYT is careful to not say that.

slightlv

(7,444 posts)
18. If nothing else,
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:41 PM
Oct 2024

it sounds like in-kind election contribution... much more than would be allowed by the FEC. But then, I admit I'm not as knowledgeable about election finance law as I could be, so I may be all wet here...

PeaceWave

(2,707 posts)
3. Musk has the ability to remotely activate millions of Teslas at the push of a button.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 04:55 PM
Oct 2024

How that power can be used is anyone's guess though.

Intractable

(1,663 posts)
4. I remember Elizabeth Warren saying something about a "wealth tax."
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 04:57 PM
Oct 2024

Space-X should be nationalized.

All good people need to abandon X (twitter).

BlueInPhilly

(971 posts)
5. Alien Enemies Act
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 05:03 PM
Oct 2024

He is a clear enemy of the country. He and Murdock. The presidential immunity "refers to the office, not the person in office". I hope JRB exercises it after the election.

Bev54

(13,210 posts)
6. Yes, but once again NYtimes hides the real damage they are both doing. They either ignore or
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 05:14 PM
Oct 2024

hide in a paragraph far into the article:

They bury in paragraph 23 that Trump had Elmo take down a post by reporter Ken Klippenstein about the JD Vance emails that were hacked and published by him, not only that he was banned after posting them, unlike the assholes that posted Hunter Biden dick pics, when they were hacked and were altered.

They call Elmo's lies as misinformation (he is just dumb) instead of deliberate disinformation

They ignore completely Elmo's disinformation regarding hurricanes and his dehumanizing of migrants. They ignore completely Elmo's role in stoking riots in the UK and calling for a civil war there.

They fail to mention Elmo's fight against Jack Smith to the supreme court in favour of Trump

They fail to mention Elmo's fight against the Brazilian government because he refuses to play by their rules and laws.

They call Elmo's threats of assassination against Harris as "insulting the VP Harris", like it is nothing serious.

This is just one more Haberman/Schmidt fluff article to distract against the real damaging information.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/10/11/nyt-censors-elon-musks-jokes-about-assassinating-the-vice-president-and-his-censorship-of-jd-vance-dossier/

ancianita

(42,910 posts)
10. Plausible, knowing the NYT.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:44 PM
Oct 2024

Because nowhere does NYT bring receipts of any criminality. So no one should think any of this is necessarily illegal.

joanbarnes

(2,078 posts)
7. What happened to quit twitter day?
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:35 PM
Oct 2024

I myself never joined and hate when articles include twitter links.

ramapo

(4,772 posts)
11. Where is Vance on this?
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:50 PM
Oct 2024

He was busy using Big Tech's 'censoring; of Hunter Biden's laptop info as an excuse not to answer if Trump had lost the 2020 election.

Seems he should be very concerned about the censorship of relevant election info by Musk.

moniss

(8,767 posts)
13. Gee whiz where has that
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:58 PM
Oct 2024

bastion of "truth and disclosure of documents" Wikileaks been all this time? Why I was sure they would be right quick on getting this information widely circulated because that's what Assange the Hero has said it was all about.

lees1975

(6,909 posts)
15. So what gets done about it? Where's the Justice department?
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:08 PM
Oct 2024

And why isn't the rest of the media calling it out?

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
17. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:24 PM
Oct 2024

Too many people voting for Harris. Go to the polls, mail your ballot in, whatever means you choose. This is all happening online, it's not happening on the ground, where we place our votes. Who cares what is on used-to-be Twitter? Who is going to be influenced by anything they do? Not this time around. Sorry guys, you lose. We aren't falling for it this time.

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