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(4,243 posts)malaise
(296,080 posts)Cant wait
Joinfortmill
(21,157 posts)tetedur
(1,418 posts)This woman standing in her kitchen is as articulate and edifying as anyone I have seen on cable news.
She appears frequently on CNN
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)barbtries
(31,307 posts)The name escapes me but when I get back to my computer Ill link it
https://www.youtube.com/@PoliticsGirl
DemonGoddess
(5,127 posts)The way the Trump and the GOP have been crafting optics for all these years, they need to be rooted out for the world-class grifters they aspire to be!
eppur_se_muova
(41,938 posts)All the pieces are there, the M$M just isn't putting them together. And many of them don't regard that as part of their job description -- "it's editorializing, not reporting" -- but the Reich wing never hesitates to editorialize, nor to pass off its opinions -- and even delusions -- as facts, alternative or otherwise, and they have their own media empires to spread their lies. Media are owned by people with money, who tend to lean right-wing; and rich people who lean far right get into media for no other reason than to manipulate public opinion, as made explicit by Murdoch and Ailes when they founded FAUX "News", and by Leon Tesla when he bought Xitter. So the Left is grossly underrepresented in the M$M, and maybe even more so on social media, because the Reich wing *knows* that only this sort of lying and manipulation will let them win. To Dems, it's distasteful and we hesitate to go there, but to the Gang Of Putin, it's a matter of survival, and "death take the hindmost", so no amount of desperation on their part is ever too much.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,895 posts)Shermann
(9,062 posts)That'd just be a way to save face and make liberals cry. They want to win at all costs, and fake polls don't really achieve that end. So, this doesn't wash. Big Lie Part I didn't accomplish much politically, in fact the opposite appears to be true. Fake polls generate some confirmation bias clickbait revenue and that's about it.
lees1975
(7,046 posts)Big Lie is all we hear from Trump, that and the immigrants are the source of all of our problems, most of which don't exist. The polls they are flooding the market with are identifiable, and always just two or three points south of where the mainstream polls are, to look credible. That's why the Democratic campaigns run internal polling and don't release the results.
The rallies are things Trump points to openly and when the crowds don't materialize, as in this election, it's Biden's fault because they have to turn people away because he won't provide enough secret service protection. Except there are no lines for Trump any more, documented by reporters he won't let inside to photograph empty seats.
If the big lie isn't plan A, what is?
Farmer-Rick
(12,663 posts)Yeah, the Putin pedo-Trump cult would love to win vote counts and electoral college votes. But their heart really isn't in it.
They were winning when Biden was our candidate. But that didn't require much work on the GOP's part. When everything is equal, and liberal voter turnout is quashed, GOP always wins.
But since Harris came into the picture, everything changed.
Liberals weren't equal anymore.
We are better, younger, tougher, smarter and not afraid. Let's face it, Biden only rarely called out Trump and his crazy behavior. We loved it when he did, but he rarely did it. Kamala calls it out several
times a day. And if she doesn't then Tim Walz does. She is constant and steady and sure of herself.
That's really hard to beat especially by a demented Nazi psychopath with a history of sexual abuse and criminal convictions. Add to that, he stripped his ground game of almost all funding and expected the corporate media and Evangelicals to perform that task for him even in the battleground states.
So, once Kamala came on the scene, he dryed up his campaigning and is betting on getting his Supremes to put him in as president. Or some other post election manipulation and con game will get him the presidency. All the while he waves around the manipulated polls and fake crowd shots.
He may even be planning another attack but with more highly trained troops this time. You can bet all the filthy-rich Nazis and Putin lovers are meeting in Mara-go-loco right now. They are working out a post election strategy to attack in one form or another.
Shermann
(9,062 posts)The reality is that this election is a coin toss, and the Republicans have as good a shot as any at getting an electoral majority. A popular majority would be a nice bonus but not strictly required.
lees1975
(7,046 posts)Then they had all kinds of fuss trying to figure out how to adjust after the bad data. For them, they managed to rescue themselves a couple of weeks before the midterms, but I think they still wound up finishing right on the margin of error, like most of the polls did, not nearly as accurate or scientific as they claim.
Follow the money trail.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)Trump is not a lock to lose. He is better positioned than four years ago and even four years before that. This is a reality some of you just refuse to accept.
There is a reason Harris has adjusted her strategy the last two weeks. Not only has she been more active campaigning, but she is doing way more interviews - including going on FOX News. Anyone who has the basic fundamental understanding of how campaigning works can read the tea leaves and they all point to Harris' team understanding just how close this race is.
I think Harris pulls it out but it's borderline fantasy at this point to make definitive claims that Trump is losing - and will lose.
This is going to be a nailbiter election that probably comes down to a few thousands votes across multiple swing states. And yes, that means she could lose.
I guarantee you Harris' internals are not pointing to a decisive win - if they have her up at all.
And when the campaign says they're the underdog and that this is a very, very close race, they're not doing so to be cute with the voters. They aren't trying to keep everyone from getting complacent. They're doing it because they're telling the truth. And I can say that so confidently because four years ago around this time (it was in October), Jen O'Malley Dillon, who runs the Harris campaign, got a call with anyone who wanted to attend (it was billed as a grass roots conference call) to share their numbers. She literally walked through the public on where they stood politically. She also said, flat-out, that the election was much closer than the national polls indicated (which had Biden up between 7-10 points).
I wasn't on DU back then but I lurked a lot before I registered and I remember that when those numbers discussed, so many people here were flippant about it. They believed it was entirely a campaign strategy because they didn't want voters to get complacent.
It wasn't.
Here's a post that references that discussion.
We're seeing the exact same thing here. Ignore Harris when she says it's close. Ignore all the talk about how this is a razor-thin margin - it's all smoke! This election is going to be a blowout!
No.
The fact the same Jen O'Malley Dillon isn't walking voters through their internals like she did four years ago - showing their polling in each swing state - is a sign. We would be stupid to ignore it. That sign doesn't necessarily mean Harris is losing. But it probably means her internals are extremely close and they're not walking everyone through this like in 2020 because they probably understand if those internals got out (the concrete numbers), it would probably create some level of panic among Democrats - and then feed the media narrative the campaign might lose. They don't want. No campaign wants the final message to be that they're trending toward a loss.
Conversely, though, you have to be honest and say the truth in words that aren't likely to cause panic.
But we're not going to get a walkthrough on her internals. Maybe after the election but not before and that should humble a lot of people here about the state of he race.
BTW, here's the map Jen O'Malley Dillon shared with everyone back in 2020:

lees1975
(7,046 posts)But if you want to keep clutching your pearls and losing sleep over faulty polls for the next two weeks, please don't let reality stop you.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)This election is a toss-up. The Harris campaign expects it to be a toss-up and they certainly don't think it's in the bag like so many people here claim.
But I'm sure, when Harris is declared the winner, and it's by a very narrow margin across multiple states, you'll be back to tell me you were wrong... right? lol
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)I guess those people are forgetting how HRC was going to destroy Trump in '16 too.
There is NOTHING to suggest either has a big lead in ANY battle ground. GOTV is the key to victory
That being said, I hope she's right & I eat plate after plate of crow
Pacifist Patriot
(25,212 posts)There likely isn't a plan A, plan B, etc.
According to a relative who is a Republican in a state legislature and an acquaintance who left my county's GOP executive committee last year, there is a coordinated effort to cast doubt on the integrity of the election and obscure results to the point of throwing the entire thing into delayed chaos. Dumping skewed polls is one small slice of that pie. It may not be The Strategy, but you bet your bippy it is a component of it.
The terrifying part is that there are a lot of tactics being deployed right now all across the United States. If they could conceive it, they are trying it. Most may likely fall flat or fail outright. Some may cause problems. We won't know until we see it all shake out. This is one reason why this absolutely needs to be a landslide in as many places as we can possibly make it.
ETA: It isn't just anecdotal from these two folks above. The Harris legal team is queued up for this. Many legal scholars have been sounding these alarm bells for the past few years. The rat fuckery is everywhere!
misanthrope
(9,495 posts)Because that most certainly is being used in this election. And if someone has that kind of money to squander, why would paying for polling be any stretch?
sarchasm
(1,308 posts)lees1975
(7,046 posts)llmart
(17,614 posts)"horrible era" indeed. I think we all can relate to that.
ananda
(35,140 posts)Vote and get out the vote!
When we fight, we win !!!!!!!!
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)lucca18
(1,465 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(4,688 posts)This needs more press. Throw her the rock.
c-rational
(3,203 posts)peggysue2
(12,531 posts)This is where we're living--inside an enormous delusion bubble created by Trump's Flying Monkey Brigade because:
THEY ARE LOSING.
They're losing and they're desperate for the power to bring the world down on our heads. As odious as Agent Orange is he is but a vessel for the machinations of those far smarter and malevolent than the man himself. They want a New Order forged in their own image, the Steve Bannon/Mike Flynn types, the Neo-Nazi enthusiasts, the white nationalists, the tech-bros and other twisted billionaire club members, the power hungry of every discredited ideology are all banging at the door.
But the truth? Despite all the howls and noise, there are more Americans who still believe in the American ethos than those dedicated to its destruction.
Our first step is to defeat them at the ballot box. We are winning but we haven't won yet.
The slog has just begun. We will win on November 5th but the fight will continue to inauguration and beyond.
We can do this. We can make our own noise.
Frank D. Lincoln
(894 posts)You really know what's going on.
peggysue2
(12,531 posts)polichick
(37,626 posts)Bayard
(29,679 posts)dalton99a
(94,109 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,469 posts)bank on it!
GOTV does not make it impossible for the Trump plan to succeed. Politics Girl is correct that we are living through the biggest psyop in history. She is correct that it is a manufactured illusion that Trump is winning. She is correct that the illusion is being created in order to give credence to claims that the election was rigged and that Democrats are cheating. All true, and well said. Also, GOTV is important, of course, and I would not suggest otherwise.
However, the plan to dispute and try to overturn the election results will proceed no matter how much Trump loses by. Our job is to prepare to deal with a coup attempt. That is quite different than winning an election.
Upthevibe
(10,180 posts)h2ebits
(1,002 posts)people are unpredictable. We must up our ground game and get people to the polls! Do not assume anything!! The only poll that matters is November 5th!
shotten99
(691 posts)Im addicted to watching the polls, but I havent heard of 99% of the pollsters Ive been seeing.
Gallup, Rasmussen, even Zogby arent showing up frequently.
Abstractartist
(446 posts)Screw these polls. They are right wing bought and actually right wing owned
remember this. The majority of MSM are right wing owned. 538 is owned by ABC. NBC, Fox, NY Times, Sinclair stations, Comcast are all putting out their own bogus bullshit polls. The only poll you need to worry about is getting yourself, family and friends to the voting POLLS.
Couple of weeks left, lets close this out big
TRUMP IS LOSING
.Just ask Lyndsey Graham
he knows.😝
Magoo48
(6,721 posts)RidinWithHarris
(790 posts)...the polls from well-established pollsters, who (despite the conspiratorial paranoia of many here on DU) might have polling model problems, but are hardly likely to have been "bought", those polls are way tighter than I can be comfortable with given how truly awful and repulsive a candidate Trump is.
You can feel good about Harris's chances in November (I do) without crediting American voters for being smart enough not to support Trump. Sadly, they aren't that bright or well-informed. They are perhaps barely smart enough (on average) to bumble into the correct decision, but deserve no more credit than that.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)bagimin
(1,703 posts)angrychair
(12,278 posts)It sounds like it's trying to make people deny reality.
This explanation only works if we are also willing to say that those same polls showing us winning the House and Senate races in those same states are wrong as well.
Sorry reality is our country is full of hate and violence and racism and misogyny and bigotry and xenophobia and it is just not the country we want it to be. It just never was. I don't know what the right answers are but it's 50/50 if we don't end up like Iran or Afghanistan (controlled by religious extremists when majority didn't want it)
townie
(96 posts)johnnyfins
(3,767 posts)These videos are her lane for sure.
Think she'd make a good press sec for Kamala? A brutal one for a change?
johnnyfins
(3,767 posts)She should be in the room for every messaging session for the DNC.
augyboston
(379 posts)Totally on point, that is exactly what tRump and MAGA are trying to do and we all need to do whatever we can to make absolutely certain that their manipulations fail bigly.
Record turnout in early voting across the country and in the swing states is proof that we are winning and winning big. It isn't MAGA that is turning out, it is the true patriots of this country who believe in its institutions and in democracy.
We need to pound the living shit out of them and we need to be totally relentless in doing so.
Flood the zone Blue!
wolfie001
(7,659 posts)A Lot!!!
FirefighterJo
(444 posts)I would marry that lady in the blink of an eye! Go democrats! Go to vote!
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Cha
(319,067 posts)Have been Telling Those Who Are WORRIED About the POLLS!
Next time I see one of those posts I'm going to Reply with This...
Thank You... Politics Girl has it Goin' ON!!
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)scene, and it does make one wonder why this sudden influx of new pollsters has suddenly appeared?
The OP may have a valid argument.
dwayneb
(1,107 posts)That will tell the tale.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)some dumbasses bet 30 million in the gambler poll
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)She is absolutely correct with her assessment. They are cranking up the propaganda machine, with those who she has mentioned one of them being Putin. Let's get out our vote!!!!!!!!!!
We did it in 2020 and we can do it again!!!!!!
calimary
(90,010 posts)Shes smart, articulate, and credible.
Glad shes on OUR side!