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Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:39 PM Oct 2024

Shit's about to get real: there is video of Trump groping a minor

There have been rumors over the last couple of days about it and the right is prepping by saying it is AI generated.

Keith Edwards, Dem strategist, appears to confirm:


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UPDATE: This appears to be a story that was pitched to Halperin: https://www.newsweek.com/mark-halperin-says-hes-been-pitched-story-that-could-end-trumps-campaign-1973637
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Shit's about to get real: there is video of Trump groping a minor (Original Post) Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 OP
Eh whatever. Signed. Evangelical Jeses. bullimiami Oct 2024 #1
Jeses... Is that the plural of Jesus? dchill Oct 2024 #17
Tim Apple says yes. bullimiami Oct 2024 #30
Some ugly maga clown I saw someplace the other day: Klarkashton Oct 2024 #2
Eh, I'll wait until MS-NBC broadcasts it. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #3
Could have something to do with trump's Epstein ranch attendance. brush Oct 2024 #113
Being told it exists isn't proof of it existing. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2024 #4
Yeah....this is all over Twitter, which is best known for disinformation. EllisWhy Oct 2024 #75
Was this alleged crime reported to the police? tulipsandroses Oct 2024 #5
Excellent point. Even if the minor in question wnylib Oct 2024 #21
Wealthy donor parents are likely to choose their daughter over this malaise Oct 2024 #28
One would think so. bluestarone Oct 2024 #35
I am not so sure. Why would anyone let their child near him. 33taw Oct 2024 #61
The diehards don't see him as a threat. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #68
Agree. They will watch their child get assaulted and blame the child. 33taw Oct 2024 #69
If there is video,could this be a did he Diddy tape? BattleRow Oct 2024 #78
No, there's a rumor of a tape. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #6
Yes. "Many people are saying..." reACTIONary Oct 2024 #76
I don't see where there's confirmation of it...."Ive been told" Tribetime Oct 2024 #7
So if Confirmed... Wonder how the minor Reacted? Cha Oct 2024 #8
In the moment, shock. Might not tell anyone for years. Having someone capture the event on camera... Hekate Oct 2024 #43
Yes, he's a dirty old Exhibitionist (Good Point) Sexual Predator Cha Oct 2024 #49
I wonder if maybe she screamed and there was a confrontation Meadowoak Oct 2024 #102
If confirmed it should be a legal matter and he should be Bev54 Oct 2024 #85
Excellent.. Well said. TY, Bev. Cha Oct 2024 #98
Ok I know they don't care, even admire it arlyellowdog Oct 2024 #9
Vabbe fa niente Prairie Gates Oct 2024 #10
Baloney. It's a red herring to create both sides story when the Russia fakes about Kamala start coming. Nt lostnfound Oct 2024 #11
That is exactly the way the right as been prepping Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 #18
Unfortunately, that's a real possibility. dchill Oct 2024 #22
Is that how Dems operate? Would Harris approve such a tactic? wnylib Oct 2024 #26
No. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #60
The whole thing sounds like BS to me. Not that Trump wnylib Oct 2024 #67
Agreed. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #70
Agreed JustAnotherGen Oct 2024 #77
Yup wryter2000 Oct 2024 #79
Not a chance. I am not suggesting that at all. lostnfound Oct 2024 #116
What is meant by "groping" and "minor"? Renew Deal Oct 2024 #12
Sexual assault of an underage child. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #27
Link? Renew Deal Oct 2024 #36
You want a link to the definition of groping a minor? Probably not a good idea.... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #39
No, link to the definition of groping. Renew Deal Oct 2024 #71
MAGA will admire him for that. They're all for rape culture. Nt CousinIT Oct 2024 #13
Sadly, I think those saying his voters won't care are right. madaboutharry Oct 2024 #14
I think we should be more concerned about an adult sxually assaulting a child than whether he might lose a few votes. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #29
You really didn't understand my post at all. madaboutharry Oct 2024 #32
Exactly. It wouldn't take even five minutes markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #41
none that I've seen stopdiggin Oct 2024 #15
"I have been told" is confirmation of nothing. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #16
UNLESS THE VIDEO IS RELEASED brettdale Oct 2024 #19
He has already lost the election. dchill Oct 2024 #25
How so? Polybius Oct 2024 #107
huh? Skittles Oct 2024 #66
brettdale........ Upthevibe Oct 2024 #86
I don't think we should be focusing on or pushing this "story". We have bigger fish to fry, and this is a distraction. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #20
Sexual assault of a child should not be ignored. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #31
Absolutely not, and if there is a video or other evidence it will get a lot of attention. Until then Repub psyop. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #34
Agree debm55 Oct 2024 #96
If it is released and it does turn out to be real standingtall Oct 2024 #23
Keith Edwards is getting LAMBASTED for irresponsibly posting this. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #24
The NAZI story is more damaging andym Oct 2024 #73
A distraction gab13by13 Oct 2024 #33
That is a possibility if they knew Kelly's words were coming out Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 #37
so to distract from one story Skittles Oct 2024 #106
The only "source" thus far is a Democratic strategist. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #46
"I've been told...". Well that's definitive. NOT! yellowcanine Oct 2024 #38
I imagine it's many minors tavernier Oct 2024 #40
If this is true. A higher hand WANTS a Harris johnnyfins Oct 2024 #42
I aint buying it johnnyfins Oct 2024 #44
There is a story of the Turtle(McConnell) johnnyfins Oct 2024 #45
Im feeling really psyopped right now johnnyfins Oct 2024 #47
I'm feeling that the "Dem strategist" might have been duped. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #59
"Incoming!" dchill Oct 2024 #88
Well, Mark Haplerin has always been ToxMarz Oct 2024 #48
Halperin sounds pretty convinced it's a fake. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #51
seems I remember DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #50
This could be a setup. Something to embarrass the Democrats. sarchasm Oct 2024 #52
Yep. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #55
Newsweek? Not a real good source these days. Scrivener7 Oct 2024 #53
The source is supposedly a Democratic strategist. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #58
If a minor was molested by that monster, law enforcement should handle it and protect the minor. chowder66 Oct 2024 #54
There could be a video of Trump shooting her on 5th Avenue and he wouldn't lose any supporters. The cult is nuts. dem4decades Oct 2024 #56
The cult BigMin28 Oct 2024 #57
Yawn kwolf68 Oct 2024 #62
Very much on brand. Pending data. TheKentuckian Oct 2024 #63
Zen Master says, we'll see. paleotn Oct 2024 #64
I'm seeing some shit-stirring and nothing else. Girard442 Oct 2024 #65
So he's going for the pro-child abuse vote. Demobrat Oct 2024 #72
Release the goddamn video then stick a fork in that fat fuck once and for all Blue Owl Oct 2024 #74
This looks like a trap to me 0rganism Oct 2024 #80
He's riding around on Epstein's plane now, with Trump written all over it. Bluethroughu Oct 2024 #81
If true, release it kansasobama Oct 2024 #82
This is going to damage his campaign.... FarPoint Oct 2024 #83
Souce: "trust me, bro" SoFlaBro Oct 2024 #84
Don't tell me, the guy who brags about groping women, groped someone? dlk Oct 2024 #87
Either way, I don't see where it's gonna do that much damage to his base. PurgedVoter Oct 2024 #89
This smells like ratfucking mn9driver Oct 2024 #90
Keith Edwards is in a bit of hot water Moebym Oct 2024 #91
We're not very good at vetting sources. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #95
Over the many years and with Epstein etc. moniss Oct 2024 #92
DO NOT TOUCH THIS STORY! AverageOldGuy Oct 2024 #93
Literally every story they have is phony. Diraven Oct 2024 #94
True, but integrity is one of many reasons people are voting against GOPers. As posters said, if true, it Silent Type Oct 2024 #105
What I want to know is Diraven Oct 2024 #97
Just look at the amount of posts on this thread. I swear Trump''s campaign came up with this as a strategy to Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 2024 #99
THe story is not off anything Prairie Gates Oct 2024 #101
This is a non-story elsewhere so far. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #103
We're not that lucky. nt Hotler Oct 2024 #100
remember it might well BE AI generated lapfog_1 Oct 2024 #104
Well, if it's real ... VMA131Marine Oct 2024 #108
good point brettdale Oct 2024 #109
Newsweek? Cirsium Oct 2024 #110
Wouldn't that be kiddie porn? LeftInTX Oct 2024 #111
I still think this is Halperin trying to be relevant again, like his hey day of 2016. BannonsLiver Oct 2024 #112
If its true and released brettdale Oct 2024 #114
So Im guess this story is over like Mark's career? brettdale Oct 2024 #115

Klarkashton

(5,242 posts)
2. Some ugly maga clown I saw someplace the other day:
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:41 PM
Oct 2024

"I'd like to grab them by the pussy too!"

OAITW r.2.0

(32,038 posts)
3. Eh, I'll wait until MS-NBC broadcasts it.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:42 PM
Oct 2024

In the meantime, Trump is a totally unfit person for this office. A 34x convicted criminal awaiting sentencing.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
113. Could have something to do with trump's Epstein ranch attendance.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:54 AM
Oct 2024

It was going around months ago that he was with one of the Epstein teen girls and she was to perform oral sex on him but he demanded she put on gloves before she touched him, him being a germophobe.

Also it was reported that the teen later asked him not to put it in her vagina.

Who knows. Maybe there is a tape someone had sense enough to save.

EllisWhy

(24 posts)
75. Yeah....this is all over Twitter, which is best known for disinformation.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:12 PM
Oct 2024

This is the same "news" source that oh-so-accurately predicted Beyonce was going to be at the Dem Convention....and even if by some odd chance it's true, do you think many in his base will care?

tulipsandroses

(8,234 posts)
5. Was this alleged crime reported to the police?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:43 PM
Oct 2024

I'm calling BS until I hear that this is a criminal investigation. Someone has evidence of sexual assault of a minor but is shopping it to the media instead of reporting it to the police?
Anything is possible these days, but until I hear from credible sources that this is an ongoing criminal investigation. This is a non story.

wnylib

(25,763 posts)
21. Excellent point. Even if the minor in question
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:56 PM
Oct 2024

or her family don't report it. -- and I can understand fear of repercussions of they did report it -- the person who has the video should report it. Obviously whoever has the video does not fear repercussions or they would not be making it known that they have it.



malaise

(295,425 posts)
28. Wealthy donor parents are likely to choose their daughter over this
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:01 PM
Oct 2024

vile piece of shit molester.

bluestarone

(22,049 posts)
35. One would think so.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:05 PM
Oct 2024

Depending on how wealthy they could, maybe donate 5 million to Kamala!!

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
68. The diehards don't see him as a threat.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:02 PM
Oct 2024

And they believe that all of the prior allegations were made up.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. No, there's a rumor of a tape.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:43 PM
Oct 2024

Until it's confirmed or released, it's still just that, a rumor.

Any statement that begins with "I have been told" is on shaky ground until proven otherwise.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
43. In the moment, shock. Might not tell anyone for years. Having someone capture the event on camera...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:20 PM
Oct 2024

…takes it to another whole level — and also begs the question of why the adult with the camera kept quiet.

Look at Trump’s recorded history. Aside from being a rapist, there is a part of him that is thoroughly exhibitionistic. He raped E Jean Carroll in a department store dressing room, for gods’ sake. In front of many witnesses he invaded the Teen pageant dressing room, to which young Ivanka reportedly said, “Daddy does that.” The lifestyle magazine photos he commissioned with him and a barely pubescent Ivanka make me ill to look at. Further exhibitionism was with Ivanka at about the same age giving him a lap dance at a public music event — he with his patented smirk, and unwilling observers looking appalled.




Cha

(318,644 posts)
49. Yes, he's a dirty old Exhibitionist (Good Point) Sexual Predator
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:38 PM
Oct 2024

as well as an Adjudicated Rapist. Who knows who is actually leaking the Video.... was it the person who took it or someone else and how did they get a hold of it?

Imagine our Surprise.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
102. I wonder if maybe she screamed and there was a confrontation
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:20 AM
Oct 2024

Caught on video, otherwise, he would deny deny deny, you didn't see what you think you saw. Anyway Trump is nervous about this coming out, and is scared it will end his campaign.

Bev54

(13,409 posts)
85. If confirmed it should be a legal matter and he should be
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:46 PM
Oct 2024

Arrested. If parents know and did not report it they should be charged with child endangerment.

arlyellowdog

(1,430 posts)
9. Ok I know they don't care, even admire it
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:44 PM
Oct 2024

But, maybe, just maybe, the film will be the difference

lostnfound

(17,487 posts)
11. Baloney. It's a red herring to create both sides story when the Russia fakes about Kamala start coming. Nt
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:45 PM
Oct 2024
 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
18. That is exactly the way the right as been prepping
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:53 PM
Oct 2024

For the release of this video. They are saying it is AI generated

wnylib

(25,763 posts)
26. Is that how Dems operate? Would Harris approve such a tactic?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:59 PM
Oct 2024

I don't believe that she would. Not her style.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
60. No.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:50 PM
Oct 2024

If the source is really a Dem strategist, it's clearly not intended to distract, unless the strategist is an idiot.

wnylib

(25,763 posts)
67. The whole thing sounds like BS to me. Not that Trump
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:00 PM
Oct 2024

wouldn't do it, but that there is no verification, just rumors, speculation, and weird conspiracy theories floating around about motives for making it public.

So I am trashing all the threads about it unless it becomes a verified actual news story.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
70. Agreed.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:04 PM
Oct 2024

It's just frustrating that we bite on this stuff every, single time. There is quite literally zero evidence at present, and spreading this as though it's been confirmed is just irresponsible. But here we are.

If it becomes a real story, we'll hear plenty about it. I can wait.

JustAnotherGen

(38,015 posts)
77. Agreed
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:14 PM
Oct 2024

And it isn't going to detract from all of 45's PROVEN criminal behavior, traitorous actions, or the fa t that he fomented an insurrection.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
79. Yup
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:31 PM
Oct 2024

Get us all excited about it so they can ridicule us for falling for a hoax. Therefore, everything we say is a hoax.

I hope the press proceeds with caution.

lostnfound

(17,487 posts)
116. Not a chance. I am not suggesting that at all.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:09 PM
Oct 2024

I’m suggesting that the dirty tricks could counterintuitively include a fake video about Trump by Trump’s side that will subsequently be exposed as a fake. In the cult bubble, this would be seen as proof of Democratic guilt.
If the left jumps on a fake and invests energy in it, then has the knees cut out when it is shown to be a fake — well it just clouds the truth and wastes airtime.

madaboutharry

(42,032 posts)
14. Sadly, I think those saying his voters won't care are right.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:52 PM
Oct 2024

MAGA is a cult. Sexual abuse is a feature of cults. Even a video of the molestation of a minor won't phase these people. They just don't think like people who know the difference between right and wrong.

They love Trump for the cruelty and the deviance.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
29. I think we should be more concerned about an adult sxually assaulting a child than whether he might lose a few votes.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:02 PM
Oct 2024

markodochartaigh

(5,455 posts)
41. Exactly. It wouldn't take even five minutes
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:18 PM
Oct 2024

for an internet search to turn up dozens of stories of children whose family turned on them when they accused a coach or church leader of sexual assault; or of families ejected and shunned after accusing a church leader of assault.

stopdiggin

(15,366 posts)
15. none that I've seen
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:52 PM
Oct 2024

and "I've been told" means that neither has the source

Think I'll leave the gossip mill in charge of this one.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
16. "I have been told" is confirmation of nothing.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:53 PM
Oct 2024

Please edit, or better yet, self-delete this until a better source is available, if ever.

 

brettdale

(12,748 posts)
19. UNLESS THE VIDEO IS RELEASED
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:54 PM
Oct 2024
IT WILL HAVE ZERO EFFECT

IF ITS RELEASED AND CONFIRMED TO BE REAL, TRUMP HAS LOST THE ELECTION

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
20. I don't think we should be focusing on or pushing this "story". We have bigger fish to fry, and this is a distraction.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:56 PM
Oct 2024

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
34. Absolutely not, and if there is a video or other evidence it will get a lot of attention. Until then Repub psyop.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:04 PM
Oct 2024

standingtall

(3,148 posts)
23. If it is released and it does turn out to be real
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:57 PM
Oct 2024

Could such a video even be shown on TV? Seems to me if a video like this exist, the news would need to be broke by law enforcement. Sense they would be obligated to watch it.

andym

(6,063 posts)
73. The NAZI story is more damaging
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:08 PM
Oct 2024

it directly relates to how he governs and is from an impeccable source.

 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
37. That is a possibility if they knew Kelly's words were coming out
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:10 PM
Oct 2024

The paper that broke the story probably gave it to them a day or two ahead of the release.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
46. The only "source" thus far is a Democratic strategist.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:26 PM
Oct 2024

Who says he "has been told" there's a video.

If he intended it as a distraction, that's a pretty dumb strategy.

If it was bait and he took it, that would be just as dumb.

tavernier

(14,425 posts)
40. I imagine it's many minors
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:12 PM
Oct 2024

But no one cares. The water is so muddied with many men of all political parties and religions taking sexual advantage of underage kids that no one seems to care anymore. It just isn’t any kind of surprise.

johnnyfins

(3,721 posts)
44. I aint buying it
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:22 PM
Oct 2024

Do I believe orange fuckface is capable? Yes!. This seems too perfectly timed.

johnnyfins

(3,721 posts)
45. There is a story of the Turtle(McConnell)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:25 PM
Oct 2024

COMPLETELY EVISCERATING MAGA.

Looks like the repubs are mediassassinating their leader before our eyes.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
59. I'm feeling that the "Dem strategist" might have been duped.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:48 PM
Oct 2024

Or just decided that rumor = fact. The former seems more likely.

Either way, spreading this with zero evidence is irresponsible.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
51. Halperin sounds pretty convinced it's a fake.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:41 PM
Oct 2024

That's not stopping him from talking about it, of course.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
50. seems I remember
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:40 PM
Oct 2024

"They" set up Dan Rather with a fake story years ago, then torpedoed his career......

sarchasm

(1,305 posts)
52. This could be a setup. Something to embarrass the Democrats.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:41 PM
Oct 2024

Even if true, magats won't believe it, or won't care. It's a version of the shooting someone in the middle of 5th avenue. The weirdo cult would probably love him more for it.

The only thing that may change some minds is if the victim and her parents both came out against him.


TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
55. Yep.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:44 PM
Oct 2024

Spreading this with zero evidence is irresponsible and could make us look pretty silly if there's no there there.

Wouldn't be the first time, sadly.

On the remote chance that it's true, his supporters wouldn't blink an eye, but independents might, or at least enough to matter.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
58. The source is supposedly a Democratic strategist.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:46 PM
Oct 2024

As noted in the post. "Keith Edwards, Dem strategist, appears to confirm: "

The Newsweek link is the OP speculating that the story from the strategist is the same one Halperin is talking about.

Also, "I have been told" is confirmation of nothing.

chowder66

(12,178 posts)
54. If a minor was molested by that monster, law enforcement should handle it and protect the minor.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:43 PM
Oct 2024

dem4decades

(13,998 posts)
56. There could be a video of Trump shooting her on 5th Avenue and he wouldn't lose any supporters. The cult is nuts.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:45 PM
Oct 2024

kwolf68

(8,447 posts)
62. Yawn
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:52 PM
Oct 2024

Unless he groped someone last week, the vid would have been destroyed or posted by now.

Dems are being trolled on this one. And it's taking away our efforts on the important shit that is known and proven.

This will help them. When all these bullshit rumors about Trump fondling a minor is proven false that will prove he is actually Jesus.

paleotn

(22,135 posts)
64. Zen Master says, we'll see.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:55 PM
Oct 2024

Sounds conspiratorial to me which rarely peeks my interest since there's not a species in our galaxy worse at keeping secrets than humans. And this was kept tightly under wraps until just now? If it happened last week, it might have more credence in my mind. If this happened months ago and was kept firmly under the radar until now?....well, see my statement about humans above.

0rganism

(25,593 posts)
80. This looks like a trap to me
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:41 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:31 PM - Edit history (1)

1. MAGAts don't care anyway
2. There's no evidence yet
3. Even if evidence comes forth it will be regarded as fake by half the voters and held against the Harris campaign on that basis
4. If it turns out to actually be fake, TSF can parade around claiming "complete exoneration" and it becomes a catastrophe for the Harris campaign
5. Looks like yet another shiny distraction from news cycles that should already be sufficiently damning for TSF

I wouldn't put much faith in any one story to finish off TSF's campaign.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
81. He's riding around on Epstein's plane now, with Trump written all over it.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:42 PM
Oct 2024

Nothing shocks me from this filthy sleaze.

kansasobama

(1,750 posts)
82. If true, release it
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:42 PM
Oct 2024

No need to hold back. If not, it is just stuff to throw a bait to us liberals. Pitched to Halperin, a fascist lover?

FarPoint

(14,716 posts)
83. This is going to damage his campaign....
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:44 PM
Oct 2024

Another sexual abuse act, now just allegedly at this point....One can assume she will be paid off...then she would say something else....

Boundaries are gone with him and the guardrails can't be rebuilt in time with tRump...We already know he is a predator..

dlk

(13,235 posts)
87. Don't tell me, the guy who brags about groping women, groped someone?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:13 PM
Oct 2024

Hard to believe….

PurgedVoter

(2,708 posts)
89. Either way, I don't see where it's gonna do that much damage to his base.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:23 PM
Oct 2024

It could still help get more folk on our side to get up and vote though.


As far as the MAGA side goes, youth pastors and priests, have weathered worse. Churches have administered schools that left large grave yards of native children. While I don't see t***p getting on a mike and saying, "I have sinned against you," while continuing his ministry, I expect the promise of tax breaks for the rich to keep them supporting t***p at the top. The bottom seems to love him the more he shows how low he is.

The faltering few MAGA will be easily convinced by the "She seduced him," line. Despite being surrounded by people and guards, that line will work with the fundamentalists, and lower end of the MAGA just fine. They are already trained to blame the victim.

Anyone looking for decent behavior or ethics will already be voting for Kamala.

mn9driver

(4,847 posts)
90. This smells like ratfucking
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:26 PM
Oct 2024

The Russians are very good with deepfakes and AI. Extreme caution is warranted.

Moebym

(1,033 posts)
91. Keith Edwards is in a bit of hot water
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:28 PM
Oct 2024

By claiming and defending his post on Threads that Democrats would get more young men to vote for them if they helped them get laid.

No, really.

Massive facepalm.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
95. We're not very good at vetting sources.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:40 PM
Oct 2024

We're also much too quick to accept dodgy or unknown sources as legitimate.

moniss

(8,996 posts)
92. Over the many years and with Epstein etc.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:30 PM
Oct 2024

there's no way someone didn't have tape. A reminder for what it's worth about the rumored contents of that safe that David Pecker was holding. I wonder who else might have seen that stuff or had access to it. This new report could be something else but I've always wondered about that safe.

AverageOldGuy

(3,746 posts)
93. DO NOT TOUCH THIS STORY!
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:34 PM
Oct 2024

No one knows a thing about this.

One of two possibilities exist:
1. It’s true in which case the full story w,I’ll emerge with facts that can be checked.

2. It’s bullshit that is being spread in a trap for Democrats. Whoever has concocted this tale has done so to get us to spread the phony story, thereby destroying our credibility and given the MAGAts something with which to make us look foolish.

Leave it alone.


Diraven

(1,875 posts)
94. Literally every story they have is phony.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:40 PM
Oct 2024

I don't think falling for one false story for a day is going to make us look foolish comparatively.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
105. True, but integrity is one of many reasons people are voting against GOPers. As posters said, if true, it
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:32 AM
Oct 2024

will break.

Diraven

(1,875 posts)
97. What I want to know is
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:48 PM
Oct 2024

If this is real, why don't they just break the actual story, instead of having a story about rumors of an upcoming story? A legit news organization could verify, write, and publish or broadcast this story in probably less than an hour to get the scoop. That's what makes this sound bogus to me.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,117 posts)
99. Just look at the amount of posts on this thread. I swear Trump''s campaign came up with this as a strategy to
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 11:58 PM
Oct 2024

distract everyone away from the General Kelly revelation which is ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Then right after that story, here comes a titillating story that none of Trump’s base will care about anyway and for those who do care, well it’s probably an AI generated faux story.

Now the story is off of the Trump wants Generals like Hitler’s and on a fake Trump groping minor story.

It’s a diversion plot, pure and simple

Prairie Gates

(7,984 posts)
101. THe story is not off anything
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:05 AM
Oct 2024

THe first story was the lead on ABC Nightly News. The only people who have even heard of the second are the Very Very Very Online. If it's a distraction, it's a pretty bad and ineffectual one.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
103. This is a non-story elsewhere so far.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:27 AM
Oct 2024

DU is a bit of a niche website. We're also really easily distracted and tend to blow things out of proportion or give them an undue amount of attention, as in this case. Lots of people want to believe it's true and ignore all the signs that it probably isn't, including the fact that the only source has no evidence and seems a bit shady.

In the real world, this is currently a non-event. Unless a legitimate source picks it up and actual evidence is provided, the story is going nowhere and hardly anyone will ever even know it was a thing. It's not taking away from the generals story (which is actually at least two years old, but being presented as new) or anything else at the moment.

lapfog_1

(31,869 posts)
104. remember it might well BE AI generated
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:32 AM
Oct 2024

and easily proven to be AI generated... AND planted by the far right or the Russians.

The key is easily proven. They would plant such a story with video to discredit the left. That might generate sympathy for Trump as a victim of "dirty tricks"... and one more thing

If there IS a video of him doing something like that or worse... this fake video and story would immunize Trump from any REAL video doing what we all know he probably did at some point in the past.

VMA131Marine

(5,262 posts)
108. Well, if it's real ...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:10 AM
Oct 2024

the AI argument can be disposed of by producing the person Trump groped or witnesses to that if she, quite understandably doesn’t want to come forward. AI can only do so much; it can’t invent real people.

BannonsLiver

(20,503 posts)
112. I still think this is Halperin trying to be relevant again, like his hey day of 2016.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:49 AM
Oct 2024

But if it were true, and there's clear video evidence of him groping a minor, that is a problem for him. Minors are a whole other ball game. It would be a big deal. He wouldn't drop out and core cult members would be unbothered, or claim it's a deep-state conspiracy. But it would likely move the voters on the margins away from him.

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