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Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:35 AM Oct 2024

ProPublica HAS THE RECEIPTS: Trump Plans To Use Military Against Americans To Squash Political Opposition

Last edited Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:05 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.propublica.org/article/video-donald-trump-russ-vought-center-renewing-america-maga

A key ally to former President Donald Trump detailed plans to deploy the military in response to domestic unrest, defund the Environmental Protection Agency and put career civil servants “in trauma” in a series of previously unreported speeches that provide a sweeping vision for a second Trump term.

In private speeches delivered in 2023 and 2024, Russell Vought, who served as Trump’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, described his work crafting legal justifications so that military leaders or government lawyers would not stop Trump’s executive actions.

He said the plans are a response to a “Marxist takeover” of the country; likened the moment to 1776 and 1860, when the country was at war or on the brink of it; and said the timing of Trump’s candidacy was a “gift of God.”

Vought’s plans track closely with Trump’s campaign rhetoric about using the military against domestic protesters or what Trump has called the “enemy within.” Trump’s desire to use the military on U.S. soil recently prompted his longest-serving chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, to speak out, saying Trump “certainly prefers the dictator approach to government.”


Also, here is a video link of a Vought speech excerpt from the article:



And FUCK this guy for using a Tolkien reference.
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ProPublica HAS THE RECEIPTS: Trump Plans To Use Military Against Americans To Squash Political Opposition (Original Post) Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 OP
Then blue states RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #1
If a President invokes the insurrection act, or under emergency... Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 #2
ignore that too RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #6
While I agree with the sentiment... Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 #7
perhaps RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #8
The Constitution would effectively already be broken by Trump at that point IMHO Mad_Machine76 Oct 2024 #11
This is where we've been for a while... slightlv Oct 2024 #13
ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS ARE ASSHOLES, YoshidaYui Oct 2024 #3
Snivelling freak Clouds Passing Oct 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author YoshidaYui Oct 2024 #5
That guy is an idiot. Don't think he's read the constitution and knows nothing of the vows service ppl take PortTack Oct 2024 #9
Most of Trump's cronies are Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 #12
A marxist takeover kwolf68 Oct 2024 #10
 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
1. Then blue states
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:41 AM
Oct 2024

Need to resist and that includes deploying their own state national gaurds.

 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
2. If a President invokes the insurrection act, or under emergency...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:48 AM
Oct 2024

The President becomes CiC of the National Guard.

 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
7. While I agree with the sentiment...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:27 AM
Oct 2024

It would break the Constitution and instigate a true military rebellion leading to a civil war.

 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
8. perhaps
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:32 AM
Oct 2024

However I personally believe the consitution has already broken simply by allowing an admitted insurrectionist to run for office.

Mad_Machine76

(24,942 posts)
11. The Constitution would effectively already be broken by Trump at that point IMHO
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:44 AM
Oct 2024

I would sure hate to see it but, other than submission, what else do you suggest?

slightlv

(7,717 posts)
13. This is where we've been for a while...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 02:45 PM
Oct 2024

look at how much FL and TX have already gotten away with by just saying "we're not going to listen" and "we're not going to do what the Feds say." Then see how far that attitude has drifted from those two states into others, such as a whole tier of Southern states, up into ARK, MO, and KS among others. At this point, it's only the republicans saying this. When WE start saying it, and backing up our words like they do, THEN we're going to either have to go to war or give them a country somewhere of their own (preferably OFF the continental United States... I don't trust they to abide by any treaty!) Shut down a few military bases in those states, pull back the arms and ammo, keep FEMA at home for their own safety's sake, and make sure they pay their fair share into the US treasury. No more red state welfare. Heck, maybe they'll find Somalia fits them just fine... or Hungary. We could offer to fly all of them over to Orban via military aircraft, as soon as they turn in their citizenship ID's.

YoshidaYui

(45,307 posts)
3. ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS ARE ASSHOLES,
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:58 AM
Oct 2024

GRADE AAA ASSHOLES...AND YOU CAN SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOESNT SHINE.

Response to Mr.WeRP (Original post)

PortTack

(35,819 posts)
9. That guy is an idiot. Don't think he's read the constitution and knows nothing of the vows service ppl take
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:33 AM
Oct 2024

kwolf68

(8,445 posts)
10. A marxist takeover
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:35 AM
Oct 2024

Because we don't want corporations to pollute our air and water? Fucking ingrates.
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