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Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:11 PM Jan 2025

Scientists debate fleeing America because of Trump

It was not easy for Dr. Kevin Trenberth to leave the United States. An esteemed climate scientist who has published more than 600 articles on climatology, Trenberth spent more than four decades of his life in America, first teaching at the University of Illinois before joining the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), where he eventually became a distinguished scholar.

Yet by September 2019, the New Zealand native decided to return home because he’d had enough of America under President Donald Trump. Trenberth has long been a fierce critic of Trump, but now things were impacting him personally.

“I cannot go to NSF [the National Science Foundation] for research funds because NCAR is base funded that way,” Trenberth wrote in a note to himself at the time. “Nor has it been fruitful to garner funds internally, and the external grants, especially with NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] dried up after 2012 when NOAA put forward a proposal for a climate service but thoroughly messed it up, and Lamar Smith [R-Texas, then-chair of the Science Committee in the House] not only killed it but cut research funds for climate by 30%

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-debate-fleeing-america-because-170006816.html


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Scientists debate fleeing America because of Trump (Original Post) Blue_Tires Jan 2025 OP
Brain drain just beginning? Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #1
We are entering the Idiocracy Quiet Em Jan 2025 #2
Bloody brilliant! Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #4
A hidden American tragedy... The Madcap Jan 2025 #3
No problem, we can always just replace Demobrat Jan 2025 #5
Yes, and they won't do as good a job but it's ok Meowmee Jan 2025 #8
Well, Trump says he's a genius and he'll solve all our problems. surfered Jan 2025 #6
Your post needs to be on a t-shirt. Dem2theMax Jan 2025 #18
Thank you. Like Trump, I'll have them made in China surfered Jan 2025 #21
. . . Dem2theMax Jan 2025 #24
Not surprising...😔 Meowmee Jan 2025 #7
Chimps and Gorillas. Planet of the Apes. Remember the end? Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #9
Great 57,000th post. Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #10
Cheers, m8 Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #19
I didn't realize the slogan "Make America Great Again"..... AZ8theist Jan 2025 #11
Unfortunately, much of America is an illiterate shithole. paleotn Jan 2025 #15
You ain't lyin'...... AZ8theist Jan 2025 #17
My SIL works at NCAR Wicked Blue Jan 2025 #12
He's a Kiwi. Easy for him to do I guess. The rest of us are invested here and we're not taking this shit lying down. paleotn Jan 2025 #13
Anybody in those blue states slightlv Jan 2025 #20
The Dark Ages bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #14
Maybe where you live. Not where I live. paleotn Jan 2025 #16
I've read this book before. LudwigPastorius Jan 2025 #22
Yes. I wonder if one country will benefit greatly from our stupidity newdeal2 Jan 2025 #23

The Madcap

(1,693 posts)
3. A hidden American tragedy...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 07:40 PM
Jan 2025

Qualified experts leaving due to politics, but it's quite understandable, given the climate of anti-intellectualism that we have here.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
8. Yes, and they won't do as good a job but it's ok
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jan 2025

because we can pay them less and they are happy to be here

surfered

(11,090 posts)
6. Well, Trump says he's a genius and he'll solve all our problems.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:11 PM
Jan 2025

So, we’re going to Hell in a hand basket.

Dem2theMax

(11,005 posts)
18. Your post needs to be on a t-shirt.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:42 PM
Jan 2025

It could also be a yard flag.

Either one, I'd buy them both.

AZ8theist

(7,055 posts)
11. I didn't realize the slogan "Make America Great Again".....
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jan 2025

....was a euphamism for "Turning America into an Illiterate Shithole".....

paleotn

(21,390 posts)
13. He's a Kiwi. Easy for him to do I guess. The rest of us are invested here and we're not taking this shit lying down.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jan 2025

Well, other than the doomer, gloomers I often see. Blue states and some blue cities are banding together to defend our rights and not cooperate with federal grifters and relig-o-nuts. We ain't done yet. Don't be a damn quitter.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/blue-states-democrats-trump-resistance-00188493

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/blue-states-unite-resist-federal-pressure-trump-00189204

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-blue-states-battle-resistance-governors-1235205398/

slightlv

(7,396 posts)
20. Anybody in those blue states
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:00 PM
Jan 2025

want to sponsor and help set up those of us trapped in the red states that are all in for the Idiocracy? There's only so much fighting you can do in places like this, without you, your cats, or your family being threatened. The towns, for example, are too small... everyone knows everyone else. And THEY feel free pressing their opinions, beliefs, and laws on you and yours. Many of us are not so much wanting to leave the country, but we would very much like to move where we could be accepted on our own terms and work together for the betterment of people... and the future. We just don't have any money. Doom and Gloom often circle around those feelings and situations of entrapment.

newdeal2

(4,693 posts)
23. Yes. I wonder if one country will benefit greatly from our stupidity
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:43 AM
Jan 2025

Probably Europe and Canada and maybe Mexico and Latin America will benefit from our brain drain.

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