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Tripper11

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Morgan Freeman would not speak such unmitigated drivel. This are not his words. Schema Thing Dec 2012 #1
Correct. Snopes has it as a fake. tinrobot Dec 2012 #50
Saw it on Facebook. I don't agree with any of it. Kolesar Dec 2012 #2
I watched 20 minutes of TV news yesterday. progressoid Dec 2012 #5
I just watched Bill Moyers...eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #6
Since Moyers is far above the MSM, I don't think Freeman's comments apply to him. progressoid Dec 2012 #12
These comments are not Freeman's AND the comments do not say 'MSM' Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #54
on MSM yes I'd agree with this PatrynXX Dec 2012 #29
I agree...even now,someone is out there plotting how to create something bigger than the Newton HipChick Dec 2012 #3
Then do something about it! truedef Dec 2012 #49
Reads As If The NRA Is Already On The Counter Offensive cantbeserious Dec 2012 #4
thankyou, Mr. Freeman, you are correct. Whisp Dec 2012 #7
Then do something about it! truedef Dec 2012 #48
Nice guy but his assertion is naive Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #8
knr Lucinda Dec 2012 #9
What is the source of this supposed "brilliant take" from Morgan Freeman? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #10
Surprised at the immediate negative reaction here Bradical79 Dec 2012 #11
Do you really believe that's an official statement from Morgan Freeman? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #16
It isn't the guy telling not to watch. morningfog Dec 2012 #19
In the meantime Melissa Harris perry had a brilliant conversation nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #13
Thanks Morgan Freeman! "the news" ..in their rush to be the Cha Dec 2012 #14
Me too Cha AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #28
I can't help but think.. Cha Dec 2012 #44
Thank you for this, Tripper11 Cha Dec 2012 #15
Appreciate it...I appreciate what he had to say... Tripper11 Dec 2012 #18
You're surprised NRA talking points falsely attributed to Morgan Freeman morningfog Dec 2012 #20
Provide the original source. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #21
This has not been sourced to Morgan Freeman. morningfog Dec 2012 #17
It's astounding how easily people are duped. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #22
Wow. Nobody on this thread seems to get it. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #23
Making stuff up? Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #55
I don't know whom you are addressing. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #56
until Mr. Freeman personally verifies that he wrote it, i'm skeptical shireen Dec 2012 #24
Dead on. Gormy Cuss Dec 2012 #25
dirty laundry demtenjeep Dec 2012 #26
It's got the NRA's fingerprints all over it bongbong Dec 2012 #27
" 'Victim' of Columbine" and people are reccing this. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #31
No shit. There's a lot of people that fall for the NRA's garbage and our side isn't above that. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #51
This story is booooogus! bluetexas Dec 2012 #30
I think this might be a hoax AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #32
Snopes is on the case. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #33
LOL You beat me to it by a minute! n/t Beartracks Dec 2012 #35
You have to be fast as the wind on DU. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #38
Snopes hasn't found any evidence this is from Morgan Freeman. However... Beartracks Dec 2012 #34
Please delete this. right now this is just JanMichael Dec 2012 #36
Nevermind. Looks like the Examiner got duped... stevenleser Dec 2012 #37
All she did was print what she found on Facebook. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #40
Perhaps people need to stop and think before sharing... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #42
I havent watched anything since yesterday Robyn66 Dec 2012 #39
Tripper delete this man - honest mistake AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #41
Bogus or not, there's a lot in there that I agree with. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2012 #43
Yes, I do, too.. SleeplessinSoCal.. Cha Dec 2012 #46
If you are not pro NRA, you should read this fake piece more carefully. Not Freeman. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #53
You agree the problem isn't our lack of gun control? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #58
Freeman or not... defacto7 Dec 2012 #45
very true riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #47
Obviously not Morgan Freeman's words.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #52
"Gun control (not) the problem". Bullshit NRA crap. Not Morgan. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #57

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
1. Morgan Freeman would not speak such unmitigated drivel. This are not his words.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:07 PM
Dec 2012

tinrobot

(10,983 posts)
50. Correct. Snopes has it as a fake.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:40 AM
Dec 2012
"We haven't found any source documenting the attribution of these words to actor Morgan Freeman, so most likely the quote is something that originated elsewhere and was later attributed to Morgan Freeman to lend it a sense of gravitas."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
2. Saw it on Facebook. I don't agree with any of it.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:08 PM
Dec 2012

Turn off the news? I don't want to be ignorant.

progressoid

(50,129 posts)
5. I watched 20 minutes of TV news yesterday.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:14 PM
Dec 2012

I doubt another 20 minutes or 4 hours of this macabre reporting would make me anymore intelligent.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
6. I just watched Bill Moyers...eom
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:21 PM
Dec 2012

progressoid

(50,129 posts)
12. Since Moyers is far above the MSM, I don't think Freeman's comments apply to him.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:48 PM
Dec 2012
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
54. These comments are not Freeman's AND the comments do not say 'MSM'
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:44 AM
Dec 2012

It says at the end 'don't ask for gun control and stop watching the news'. It does not say 'seek excellence in journalism' it says 'turn off the news' right after it says 'don't point to gun control'.
Do you also say we should not discuss gun control? Really?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
29. on MSM yes I'd agree with this
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:52 AM
Dec 2012

I just refer to the um whomever as idiots. I never remember their names. and yes the media has been rather sick covering this. lets go ask the kids how they feel.. What are you?

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
3. I agree...even now,someone is out there plotting how to create something bigger than the Newton
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:11 PM
Dec 2012

truedef

(2 posts)
49. Then do something about it!
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:28 AM
Dec 2012

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
4. Reads As If The NRA Is Already On The Counter Offensive
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:13 PM
Dec 2012

eom

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
7. thankyou, Mr. Freeman, you are correct.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:30 PM
Dec 2012

many die senseless deaths every day, of every age and everywhere, but that wouldn't sell papers and commercials as much as this travesty.

we are a sick society - the voyeurs as much as anyone else.

truedef

(2 posts)
48. Then do something about it!
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:27 AM
Dec 2012
 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
8. Nice guy but his assertion is naive
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:34 PM
Dec 2012

Ignorance is not bliss, at least not to me. And pretending they don't exist or kill solely for notoriety is not at all productive.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
9. knr
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:34 PM
Dec 2012

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
10. What is the source of this supposed "brilliant take" from Morgan Freeman? (n/t)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:37 PM
Dec 2012
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
11. Surprised at the immediate negative reaction here
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:48 PM
Dec 2012

People complain so much about the corporate sensationalist money driven "news" that gets pumped into our TV sets, and when the guy tells them not to watch it, they complain. I rarely watch the news, and yet seem to stay better informed than most of my peers who watch TV news daily.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
16. Do you really believe that's an official statement from Morgan Freeman?
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:53 PM
Dec 2012

If so, please provide the original source.

"Instead of pointing to gun control as the problem" -- sounds straight from the NRA.

Fuck Corporate Media. And fake social media accounts attributed to celebrities. People are confused enough.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
19. It isn't the guy telling not to watch.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:58 PM
Dec 2012

It is the false linking of the drivel to Morgan Freeman. The other problem is placing the blame on the want for notoriety aspect. That is a total cop out from actual issues. If someone if touting that as the primary issue, they are lying to you. Putting victims in quotation marks really took it over the edge to repugnant.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. In the meantime Melissa Harris perry had a brilliant conversation
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:51 PM
Dec 2012

On what and why.

No thank you Morgan.

Cha

(299,269 posts)
14. Thanks Morgan Freeman! "the news" ..in their rush to be the
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:52 PM
Dec 2012

first with "BREAKING NEWS".. Got it All F***** UP.

I never turned on the "news".. don't even have a tv. Found out on DU.

 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
28. Me too Cha
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:46 AM
Dec 2012

no tv, no tv news.

Cha

(299,269 posts)
44. I can't help but think..
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:14 AM
Dec 2012

that enriches our life just a little.

'Cause I did have one and saw what "the news" was doing back in 2002 when I woke up after Midterms and ran to phone and cancelled it.

Cha

(299,269 posts)
15. Thank you for this, Tripper11
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:53 PM
Dec 2012

Tripper11

(4,338 posts)
18. Appreciate it...I appreciate what he had to say...
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:56 PM
Dec 2012

I thought a lot more would...apparently not.
I was taken aback by the immediate negative replies.
I don't think it's about ignorance, I think it's about getting some perspective back, on our own.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. You're surprised NRA talking points falsely attributed to Morgan Freeman
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:00 AM
Dec 2012

got some pushback?

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
21. Provide the original source.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:01 AM
Dec 2012

I'm not finding it.

" 'Victim' of Columbine"? Did that not raise any red flags for you?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
17. This has not been sourced to Morgan Freeman.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:54 PM
Dec 2012

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
22. It's astounding how easily people are duped.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

A while back there was a recommended DU thread with yet another supposed Morgan Freeman quote, but the Twitter account was "@MorgonFreeman".

Why sweat the details?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
23. Wow. Nobody on this thread seems to get it.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

He's criticizing the media coverage for making supervillains out of the killers, thus providing inspiration to future killers.

It's not about coverage per se, it's about emphasis.

Here's what I wrote on this site five years ago, after NBC made a sensation out of materials sent in by the Virginia Tech killer just before he went on his rampage.



http://journals.democraticunderground.com/JackRiddler/29

NBC as an element in the production of mass murderers
Posted by JackRiddler in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Thu Apr 19th 2007, 07:44 PM

The Murder-Entertainment Complex

In the first "Scream" flick, the teenagers who are about to be hunted down and killed by the murderer talk about whether the horror movies they love to watch create serial killers. No, one of them answers: Horror movies just make the killers smarter.

The mass media do not create human timebombs. No doubt some people are born with a high predilection for fits of psychotic, murderous rage, a drive to kill beyond the violent drives shared by almost all humans (at any rate by almost all men). No doubt such tendencies develop or are inhibited through environmental factors: upbringing, trauma, the stations of one's experience.

But the culture-at-large certainly will affect how a timebomb personality is likely to blow. As a violent psychosis arises, its carrier might do nothing until he crashes a car, jumps off a bridge, or lashes out suddenly and fatally within familiar surroundings, at people close to him. He might sign up with the military, or become a mercenary. Sociopaths with good social skills have been known to make careers in politics and organized crime. (Am I being redundant?)

Why is it that in recent decades, in the United States and elsewhere, so many timebomb personalities have instead exploded into mass-murder rampages of the type exemplified by Columbine and now Virginia Tech? The easy availability of guns only explains the choice of weapon and the often-high number of casualties.

I submit that the corporate media have played a willing, lucrative and immoral role in the cultural chain of production that creates mass murderers of this type. I submit that they became fully conscious of this role long ago. They have created an industry of mass-murder consumption, glorifying the perpetrators in direct proportion to the number of victims killed and the amount of spectacle generated. (A group of Amish girls in a one-room school is not as impressive as 32 college-age victims in two locations several hours apart, is it? So you don't even remember the name of the Amish schoolhouse murderer, who committed his crime just a few months ago, whereas Cho will be with us for many years.)

In the case of real-life killers, this celebration of their exploits is camouflaged by the exploitation of grief, rituals of moral approbation, and "the public's right to know." But the fictional treatments generally do without need of piety or pomposity: The most prolific and profitable of all Hollywood genres are the ones dealing with serial killers, some of them supernatural, some of them seen mostly as shadows pursued by a heroic cop. Mass murderers are stars. More movies are made about them and more box office is harvested than by all movies about scientists and do-gooders and athletes combined. Manson and Ted Bundy and Son of Sam are brand-names, alongside their fictional and supernatural counterparts Freddy and Jason and Hannibal Lecter. (Is this just as much a commentary on the market as on the media who serve it? Yes!)

On receiving the package from Cho (or "Ismail Ax," his supervillain identity), NBC could have taken one picture, broadcast it at low resolution, and described the other contents of the package factually. That would have fulfilled the requirements of "delivering the news." They could have devoted a few minutes to the package as the second or third story of their program. They could have kept a copy of the material to protect themselves, and left the rest to the cops.

Instead, NBC gave the Cho package full coverage as top-plus story. They showed the text of his "manifesto" so that anyone taping it could read it. They released all of the stills and broadcast much of the video in full resolution. They used Cho's choice of imagery as icons to sell their program. And every single other corporate media outlet followed suit. Today, the front page of every tabloid in New York features the same shot of Cho with two guns, and I'm sure that's true in most every other US city and town.

The broadcast of the material amounts to a glorification. Yes, they call him "evil," which is a form of aggrandizement. The lonely, frustrated psychotic is now a comic-book character, a myth, an immortal. He's joined the killers' pantheon alongside his inspirations, Dylan and Eric, whose celebrity requires no last name. Reality once again meets the standard of satire, for this is exactly the scene in "Natural Born Killers" when in an interview with the TV reporter played by Robert Downey, the imprisoned Woody Harrelson discusses the impact of his media persona compared to that of other famous mass murderers. ("Am I bigger than Ted Bundy?&quot

Without a doubt, this encourages future timebombs to choose the same path, as Cho also predicts in his own bloody-minded images and words. This is obvious to everyone with minimal sense, and no talk on NBC's part about how they agonized over the decision to broadcast this material can mitigate the reality. (At least the tabloids don't bother with the bogus moral justifications.)

Here's a little mental exercise: Imagine Cho had killed 33 people meeting in a corporate boardroom, or the head of state's cabinet, or a group of generals discussing next year's biowarfare and nuclear weapons acquisitions. Imagine the manifesto justifying his murders actually had a comprehensible political basis. On receiving such a package, what would NBC have done? I submit they would never have dared to broadcast it, even though it would actually be relevant. It would undeniably constitute "news." Because that would reward and encourage the murder of power-brokers, of owners, of elites. And would anyone be wondering whether his act qualified as terrorism?

Because Cho killed students and teachers at random, it is safe for NBC and the corporate media to publicize the material he provided. His victims are expendable, an acceptable and fully externalized cost in the chain of production for the murder-entertainment complex. NBC and all the corporate media companies who followed its lead are therefore free to maximize their Cho ratings windfall. And for the mass murderers of the future, they are providing the ideology, the how-to, the fashion tips, the incentive, the glory.


PS - Please correct your thread title. Morgan, not Morg-ran.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
55. Making stuff up?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:16 PM
Dec 2012

" More movies are made about them and more box office is harvested than by all movies about scientists and do-gooders and athletes combined."
Load of horsepucky. Just not true. You want it to be true. But it is not true. Here is a link to a list of last year's top box office films. 'Girl With the Dragon Tattoo' at number 28 is the only, the only film about murder in the entire top 50, which features such films a 'We Bought A Zoo' and 'Harry Potter' and 'Hangover 2' 'Bridesmaids'. The dominate forms are chidlren's films and comedies. Smufs, Pirates, Pandas....that's where the big money is. Year in and year out.
There are many worthy criticisms of the film media but what you are saying is what you want to say, not what is true. If it was true, you'd not be reaching back to the 80's and 90's to cite your Natural Born Freddies and such.
It's fine to hold ginned up, anti artistic sentiments I guess, but when you start denigrating the audience for watching that which they are not watching, and making large conclusions based on that falsehood, it does make others inspect the words more closely.
Also, this is not Morgan Freeman, which is why it is spelled wrong. He'd never say such idotic shit. This piece says 'don't look to gun control'.
Also, ironic that your avatar wrote so many bloody, horrific plays with so many deaths and torture scenes and rapes and kipnappings. Hundreds of years ago, the top entertainments were bloody plays and bear baiting. Now, the top entertainments are comedies and animations. I love Shakespeare. His work is very violent. Very. Some of his 'hero' figures kill serveral people in the course of a play.
So what's your issue with Kung Fu Panda? What does that say about the 'market'? I mean, you said the films that make money comment on 'the market and the media'. Or does that only count when it is the made up, fictional popularity of nonexistant films, not the actual films that fill the actual market? It seems to me a top 50 with one murder story and a few spy films is about as tame as it gets. Add all the cartoon animals and slapstick comedies in the top 50 and it is almost as if the market wants fun, laughs and some insights here and there. 'Crazy, Stupid Love' made way more money than Dragon Tattoo. As did 27 other films about subjects other than mass murder.
Which is worse? Harry Potter, or the Panda one? Which says stuff about 'the market'? Bridesmaids? Was that an indication of a society on the verge? How about the Smufs, Chipmunks? Or maybe it is Puss in Boots or Cars that are so indicative of our ruination?
The whole 'I sound like a Baptist preacher shouting about James Dean' routine is just funny to me. Yeah. It's those kids films and comedies that are destroying the world. Sure. If you say so, we can all blame Smurfs and Pandas. Why not?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
56. I don't know whom you are addressing.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:38 PM
Dec 2012

Apparently you need to attack some Baptist minister who hates James Dean and thinks fiction media about violence directly causes violence in real life. As very little of your response addresses what I wrote, even tangentially, or seems to have even remotely understood my thesis, I'm going to leave you to chase your own tail. This failure of communication is surely my own, and probably not related to conditioned templates of response on your part that cause you to peremptorily read and hear things that aren't there. Okay?

shireen

(8,333 posts)
24. until Mr. Freeman personally verifies that he wrote it, i'm skeptical
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:38 AM
Dec 2012

For some reason, he's been the target of some unfortunate hoaxes.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
25. Dead on.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:41 AM
Dec 2012
Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right


 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
26. dirty laundry
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:43 AM
Dec 2012
 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
27. It's got the NRA's fingerprints all over it
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:45 AM
Dec 2012

And the only organization that wantonly lies more often and with even less guilty feelings than the GOP is the NRA.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
31. " 'Victim' of Columbine" and people are reccing this.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:53 AM
Dec 2012

UFB.

MessiahRp

(5,405 posts)
51. No shit. There's a lot of people that fall for the NRA's garbage and our side isn't above that.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:13 AM
Dec 2012

Being the big tent we have a lot of gun nuts here too and because of that a lot of NRA sympathizers on this board. So of course that post speaks to them. It absolves guns as being the problem which is total horseshit.

bluetexas

(44 posts)
30. This story is booooogus!
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:52 AM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:25 AM - Edit history (1)

send in the bogusity meter!

 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
32. I think this might be a hoax
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:55 AM
Dec 2012
http://cdn.inquisitr.com/440462/morgan-freemans-newtown-statement-almost-definitely-a-hoax/

So NOW FUCKING WHAT? Are we going to have to regulate information now? Godamn piece of shit humans. And people wonder why I'm an anti-humanist? REALLY?

FUCK ME WITH AN APPLE CART.
 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
33. Snopes is on the case.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:55 AM
Dec 2012
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

We haven't found any source documenting the attribution of these words to actor Morgan Freeman, so most likely the quote is something that originated elsewhere and was later attributed to Morgan Freeman to lend it a sense of gravitas.

Beartracks

(12,897 posts)
35. LOL You beat me to it by a minute! n/t
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:56 AM
Dec 2012
 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
38. You have to be fast as the wind on DU.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:59 AM
Dec 2012

Beartracks

(12,897 posts)
34. Snopes hasn't found any evidence this is from Morgan Freeman. However...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:56 AM
Dec 2012

... everything sounds better when you imagine Freeman's voice speaking it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

================

JanMichael

(24,932 posts)
36. Please delete this. right now this is just
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:56 AM
Dec 2012

internet horseshit. Thank you.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
37. Nevermind. Looks like the Examiner got duped...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:58 AM
Dec 2012

The author of this piece did not verify source - http://www.examiner.com/article/morgan-freeman-on-adam-lanza

Still looks like a hoax

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
40. All she did was print what she found on Facebook.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:03 AM
Dec 2012

I won't believe this until I see the actual interview.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
42. Perhaps people need to stop and think before sharing...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:07 AM
Dec 2012

stupid shit from Facebook.

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
39. I havent watched anything since yesterday
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:59 AM
Dec 2012

and even then I didnt watch much. Its too much to take in. I know what happend, I have enough information. I dont want the gory details, the play by play, I cant handle it. It was the same with 9/11, I was present the day it happened I watched the news that morning and I have avoided every replay, voice recording, and movie ever since. Call me weak but I just dont need to drown myself in horror to understand what has happened.

 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
41. Tripper delete this man - honest mistake
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:04 AM
Dec 2012

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,303 posts)
43. Bogus or not, there's a lot in there that I agree with.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:09 AM
Dec 2012

The question keeps coming up about a motive. To me its clear that the "motive" is to do what others have done as a way out. It's said that depression is anger turned inwards. And when it's turn out at matricide, there's no telling what will happen next. The die is cast.

I recall the first mass shooting in my experience coming from a campus in Texas with a gunman in a bell tower. It sticks with you in a really bad way. If it sticks with me, imagine how an angry and depressed, anti-social person would behave. Especially surrounded by a culture of violence living in a 24 hour news cycle world where there are plenty of reporters where there should be a time of respect.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/mass/whitman/index_1.html

In our society today, the NRA would rather we all kill ourselves than behave responsibly. That is really bad news.

Cha

(299,269 posts)
46. Yes, I do, too.. SleeplessinSoCal..
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:16 AM
Dec 2012
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. If you are not pro NRA, you should read this fake piece more carefully. Not Freeman.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:33 AM
Dec 2012

This piece claims that gun control is a bad idea. Do you agree with that?
Someone stuck Freeman's name on this, but the content is very right wing and could be NRA authored for that matter.
So you agree that gun control is a bogus issue and when we hear about it we should ignore it?
This piece says 'don't talk about gun control, blame the media'. Do you really agree with that?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
58. You agree the problem isn't our lack of gun control?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:08 PM
Dec 2012

Or did you get swept up in the emotional string pulling and miss the intent of the essay?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
45. Freeman or not...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:15 AM
Dec 2012

it's a lie wrapped in a truth.

Sounds like NRA to me,

riverbendviewgal

(4,260 posts)
47. very true
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:25 AM
Dec 2012

K&R

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
52. Obviously not Morgan Freeman's words....
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:19 AM
Dec 2012

nt

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
57. "Gun control (not) the problem". Bullshit NRA crap. Not Morgan.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:07 PM
Dec 2012
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