I think its sad most folks don't have the long view to realize the GOOD FORTUNE of a Gingrich nom.

[Leopolds Ghost]

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DID SOMEONE SAY [font color="#ff6699"]CANCER[/font]??? ROLL ON THE [font color="#ff6699"]Newt Gingrich[/font] TRAIN! * noooot * NOOOOOOOT *



A man who is willing to race-bait like this can't win in the general:

Preaching Division in South Carolina
Published: January 17, 2012 (NYT)

By mixing falsehoods with racial condescension, Newt Gingrich brought a raucous presidential debate crowd to its feet on Monday night in South Carolina, further cheapening his reputation and that of the state Republican Party.

For months, Mr. Gingrich has made racial resentment an integral part of his platform as a conservative challenger to Mitt Romney. He has traversed the country calling President Obama “the greatest food-stamp president in American history” and presenting African-Americans with the great revelation that they should prefer paychecks to federal handouts. When he was called on it at the debate by Juan Williams of Fox News, he took the measure of the crowd and doubled down.

“The fact is that more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama than any president in American history,” he announced, to wild cheers. “I know among the politically correct, you’re not supposed to use facts that are uncomfortable.” What you’re not supposed to do, actually, is mislead the public.

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I hope his whole campaign is like this, I really do. Especially the part about wanting to make 13 year olds become janitors. Nothing could be healthier for the American people to have this debate, instead of the Wall Street debate big business wants Obama to have with his Wall Street-designated successor, Romney.

They've already engineered Romney to beat Obama in the fall by simple electoral math alone. Nothing could upset their plans (to kill Occupy and ruin Obama's presidency by a repeat of the 2000 election) more than a Gingrich candidacy.

[ZM90]

1. I still think Obama would beat Romney but, hell the Grinch would probably give him close to a

50 state landslide. So I'm all for the Grinch becoming the nominee those would be fun times indeed.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. I see the value in it

This is going to be a long nose bloodied primary. The longer they tear each other apart - the easier it is for the Obama campaign it is to use their words against them.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Oh

And it's not lost on me that it was the GOP in SC that gave The Grinch the win. I think Romney was the lesser of four evils there.

[Warren DeMontague]

4. I think we do ourselves a disservice by underestimating her.

Hell, everyone loves an underdog.

[Leopolds Ghost]

11. Mine Countenance Whereupon

[Sheepshank]

36. I know who that really is

but am I the only one that thinks this could very easily be a Newtie make over?

[Leopolds Ghost]

39. Susan Boyle = Newt Gingrich + John Candy

I'm just sayin'...

[bowens43]

5. I hope you're right

but lets remember, commander bunny pants won twice.

never underestimate the stupidity of the american voter

[RKP5637]

7. Yep, that is soooo very true. Many Americans check their brains at the door

before they vote. Most don't even know the issues with any depth ...

[Tunkamerica]

8. my thoughts exactly.

[bluedave]

29. and a ditto from me

[riderinthestorm]

34. Never underestimate the racism either. Make no mistake, Newt's dog whistling the racists

and that's a big part of his "win" for that percentage of Americans who hear it (which is a lot).

[planetc]

6. I, for one, have been delighted that ...

the choice is apparently going to be between Mr. Romney and Mr. Gingrich. Democrats win either way. Either we get a man who is apparently runing for Emperor of the United States (rather than President) or a fine, upstanding representative of the ruling classes.

Think what Mr. Gingrich has said during the primary race so far: he will arrest "activist" judges, he will ignore the Supreme Court, he will put school children to work cleaning schools, and he will abolish Obamacare. We couldn't ask for a more confident candidate for dictator. Without even mentioning Mr. Gingrich's private life, any halfway intelligent opponent can destroy him with his own words.

And Mr. Romney, bless his heart. In this time of never-ending recession, Mr. Romney just came by his money the wrong way. It's too late for him to have made his money in any way that's recognizable to the 99% of us who are paying for the mistakes of the 1%.

We Democrats, we're sitting pretty

[Art_from_Ark]

13. Just remember, the choice was between Al Gore

and a moron, and through various shenanigans, the moron came out on top. And ended up occupying the White House for 8 lonnnng years.

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. It could happen again. The repugs love their various shenanigans, it's how they get elected.

[Art_from_Ark]

20. That's what I'm afraid of

That's why I wouldn't want the looniest Republican candidate to get the nomination.

But they're ALL loonies!

[DiverDave]

15. I absolutely agree

Anyone that has half a brain couldnt vote for this guy.

course, there are plenty of half brained folks out there.
Bring it, Obama will win against either of these clowns.

[GoCubsGo]

24. It doesn't matter how much of a brain a person has.

You could be a genius with an IQ that's off the charts. But, if you cast your vote on one of those black box electronic voting machines, and it gets hacked, it won't make one iota of difference how smart you are. The same goes for showing up at the polling place and being told that your ID is not adequate, or that you were scrubbed from the rolls altogether. Or, your republican state elections chairman sees to it that your precinct gets 10 voting machines when it needs 30, and you don't have time to spend standing in line for 4 hours, because you'll lose your job if you don't show up.

I always have to remind myself that Al Gore won the total vote count by half a million votes. There are more "not-stupid" people in this country than stupid people. It was because of the things I just listed, among other things, that gave that first election to Shit-for-Brains, as well as the 2004 election. And, things are even worse now in those regards.

[EC]

27. With Romney you can also add

he pays 15% now, with his budget/tax plans, he'd pay 0% while those making under $20,000. will see their taxes go up 80%.

On edit: Talk about envy, I wouldn't be envious, I'd be pissed at paying 80% more in taxes while he pays 0.

[Leopolds Ghost]

40. I find Romney more dangerous for the simple fact that

Most Americans find him as palatable as Obama despite being the very definition of the Wall Street 1% (not to mention one of the architects of the mandated private insurance most Americans claim to be upset over). His election, or even a close race, would signal (even if it really just meant American ignorance and interest in surface appearances) an America willing to reject everything the Occupy movement stands for.

[Kahuna]

9. Most? I'm triple-elated that newt won. Just to see that smug,entitled,

look wiped off of myth's face.

[NNN0LHI]

10. I watched Reagan win two terms by race-baiting

[DeathToTheOil]

14. Be careful what you wish for

I'm old enough to remember 1980.

[mfcorey1]

16. Gingrich is dangerous because of his acid tongue and mind that never extracts

the truth from a lie. People who are desperate cling to this persona because they picture him as their needed bully, except that should he gain the office of the President, he will cause havoc in the lives of the underserved like they have never seen.

[CanonRay]

18. What if they steal Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania, and he wins?

and don't tell me it can't happen.

[TreasonousBastard]

19. That is frightening way to look at it...

Sorry, but I'm a bit of a dreamer and like the concept of two honorable and worthy people arguing ideas and the future of the country. I'm also old enough to remember Eisenhower and Stevenson, possibly the last time that happened.

We managed to survive Nixon and Reagan and we barely survived the Shrub. How low do we have to go to see who can finally destroy the country from the White House? Do we want to be remembered in history as the great nation too stupid to keep what we built?

Whoever runs against Obama has a chance, however small, of winning, and that's a chance I can't see for the likes of Gingrich. I'm no fan of Romney, but of the remaining clowns he's the only one I wouldn't faint dead away at the thought of giving the keys to.

[Art_from_Ark]

21. I don't think Gerald Ford was such a bad guy

And the campaign of 1976 was pretty tame, I think, with both sides arguing, in a rather composed way, ideas and the future of the country.

[TreasonousBastard]

23. It was genteel compared to today-- we were getting over the...

revulsion from Nixon's final days.

I just can't remember Ford as anything but an affable klutz, though.

[Art_from_Ark]

26. Granted, Ford was an affable klutz

and he thought that Poland was not under Soviet domination in 1976, but at least the debates and campaign of 1976 were, as you say, genteel, and they did tend to focus on real issues. And even when a group of demonstrators disrupted a speech by Hubert Humphrey in September 1976, shouting "Israel must live! Carter must go!", Humphrey waited patiently for several minutes before asking them to stop.

[Leopolds Ghost]

22. It would be kind of funny if Romney tacked left to run against Obama

But I'm very much afraid we'll see the opposite happen.

I.e. Obama and Romney competing to win the 53% crowd by adopting RW memes and narrow electoral politics.

Romney saw McCain run an honorable election against Obama, don't forget. We got that four years ago, more or less...

Running against Gingrich would practically make Gingrich the new face of the Tea Party, galvanizing independent minded folk (including sections of the right) against him. It'd be a Wallace campaign.

[joeybee12]

25. Newt is toxic, unelectable, and will hurt Repukes chances for Congress...

It really is a blessing.

That said, the GOP establishment is in full panic mode now...they will pull out all the stops for Mittens in Florida.

[Worried senior]

28. I am very afraid of all

of these candidates. You can't count on the republican faithful to use their heads, they'll vote for them just because they hate Obama.

I really dread the next few months.

[WilliamPitt]

30. It's a good day.

[The Blue Flower]

31. agree

I think it's the best possible outcome.

[Leopolds Ghost]

37. Megatwinkles n/t

[backscatter712]

32. I agree - in the general, he has the potential to be comedy gold!

However, FSM help us if somehow, he becomes President.

Democrats were rejoicing when Reagan was nominated in '80 and when George W. Bush in 2000. They were saying "These assclowns couldn't possibly get elected!"

[99Forever]

33. I think it's great for the Presidential race, however....

.. it worries me that it might increase the "wacko faction" turnout in House and Senate races.

I guess we'll see.

[Leopolds Ghost]

38. Would Gingrich have positive or negative coattails? Hmm.

Anyone remember that famous LBJ ad against Goldwater? Best. Political Ad. Ever.

[Odin2005]

35. He is a bad flashback to the 90s, he cannot beat Obama.

[hifiguy]

41. The salamander is toxic to middle of the roaders.

Vicious, racist and nuts has an appeal in this country but not enough to ever make the Gingrinch president of anything except his own fan club.

[Nye Bevan]

42. I don't like Romney, but it is not difficult to imagine a scenario where he beats Obama.

On the other hand, that grandiose, pompous doughy bigot Gingrich obviously has next to no chance of winning.

It's clear to me that we should be rooting for Gingrich to get the nomination.

[Bandit]

43. You may very well be underestimating how deeply into the swamp America has sunk

When torture and desecrating enemy bodies gets a standing ovation in this country, electing someone like Newt becomes a distinct possibility..