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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI've been in Paris for a week now
And no one is spending any time thinking about Trump. They're too busy enjoying their lives in this lovely city. It's Tuesday, and reservations are needed in many restaurants. The economy looks to be doing quite well here. Many people are walking everywhere, several languages are heard, people are singing in the streets of Montmartre. Life is good!
GreenWave
(12,569 posts)Initech
(108,513 posts)True Dough
(26,424 posts)Some say he's a mistake unlike any other mistake known in the history of humankind!
electric_blue68
(26,749 posts)*Definately a huge mistake! A curse on most of us!
Ford_Prefect
(8,578 posts)The Neo-Christian Nationalists. He is doing EXACTLY as they have planned and they are writing the scripts, the presidential orders, the assault on American culture and the Western Alliance.
GiqueCee
(3,943 posts)... Too many people have their heads in the sand or up their nether portals and are not taking this runaway nuclear meltdown-level crisis anywhere near seriously enough. Even the hard-core zealots should be asking themselves, is this what we really want?
Ayn Rand's shitty doorstop "novels" painted a rosy picture of an "Everything for me, and nothing for thee" closed and heavily guarded paradise for the filthy rich, and a polluted, poisonous hellscape for the rest of us. And that is exactly what the evil psychopaths at the Heritage Foundation intend to build on the ashes of America. They, and everyone else you mentioned, are irredeemable monsters consumed with the fever-dream of total dominion over the lives of others, no matter the cost.
The fact that they have more money than they could spend in twenty lifetimes means nothing; they cannot abide the possibility that anyone else has anything. They want it ALL. For Christ's sake, they screech it in public constantly! BELIEVE THEM!
The courts can hand down all the rulings they want; if there's no one willing to enforce them, we're fucked. The FBI, the U.S. Marshals, the Armed Forces, and even a horrifying percentage of state and local law enforcement agencies, are all under the direction of incompetent Trump loyalists who think ruthless patrimonialism is just dandy. Or they will until it affects them directly, which is a rock-hard certainty. They thrive in regimentation, and crave homicidal orders they can obey, otherwise they wouldn't wear uniforms and carry guns. "To Serve and Protect" only applies to the rich and powerful. The rest of us had better assume the position, or eat a bullet.
The namby-pamby Pollyannas who should have our backs think they can ride this out and that they can ask madmen, come, let us reason together. Not in this lifetime, cupcake. They want to kill anyone and anything with the temerity to disagree with the Gangrenous Boil on the Ass of Humanity. Just listen to Stephen Miller, and BELIEVE HIM!
Where we go from here will demand courage and iron-willed resolve. Those who doubt it had best get out of the way.
I need more coffee.
Initech
(108,513 posts)It's truly scary AF. Fox News is the worst thing that's ever happened to this country since the Civil War.
Have a wonderful time! I am learning to say "we are Americans, but we do NOT like trump" for our future trip to Paris.
stollen
(1,143 posts)Like I said, no one is thinking about Trump or the US. Not on the menu of discussion so no need to innoculate yourself. We're a non-topic. Not on the radar.
This has got to be the best city ever. This is probably my 5th time, from 1973 to today. It's been fun to see differences over the years, all for the better. The Olympics did a lot to advertise the city's greatness.
Off the radar is perfect. So glad you are having a wonderful time! And how could you not, it's Paris.
stollen
(1,143 posts)seem to really enjoy their city.
It's multi-cultural, multi-lingual, vibrant, colorful, creative, fast, polite, and proud without being chauvanistic.
I spoke the little I knew of four languages today and yesterday. I have always loved diversity.
Trump could take a flying shit from a lightpole, and nobody would care. He's doing whatever he can to make people's lives miserable. But people appear happy here! They don't sit with their cell phones at dinner but rather talk to each other, and LAUGH, and sing!
What city can compare?
FM123
(10,356 posts)We are going in April, I can hardly wait.
stollen
(1,143 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 19, 2025, 05:37 AM - Edit history (1)
use caution with the key museums. D'Orsay was so crowded, it was a fire hazard. I had to leave after an hour if not sooner, but I've been there before. For sure don't go on a Tues.
Look for the statue of Thomas Jefferson near the Louvre and at the bridge entrance going to the Louvre. He sketched the neo classical architecture of buildings around there and brought the ideas to Monticello and UofVA.
FM123
(10,356 posts)We have tix to Louvre (on a Fri morn) so I will def look for the Jefferson statue!
Conjuay
(3,046 posts)There's a song right there!
FM123
(10,356 posts)Jit423
(1,568 posts)FirstLight
(15,771 posts)I have Paris all over my house and have dreamed of going since I was in HS taking French! Though, with the highly romanticized view of the place, some warn me I'd be disappointed. Personally I doubt it...though if I could, I'd *really* love to visit the Paris of the 20's, Hemingway's era
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)is probably number one on my time travel destination list.
stollen
(1,143 posts)Complete BS about disappointment.
orleans
(36,852 posts)i go to
https://imgur.com/
click on "new post"
click on "choose photo/video"
my desktop folder opens and i find the picture and click open
then on the photo it says "copy link ..."
i hit the " ... " and a little dropdown menu shows up so i go to "get shared links"
the share options box opens and i go to the "BBCode (forums) "
i click on "copy link" (and it's automatically copied)
i come here and paste the link (like this one) :
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wolfie001
(7,545 posts)***Obviously fake donald duck with his parents wearing Klans-people outfits. Funny though. Duck Duck Go should be able to bring it up. Just for sh7ts and giggles
orleans
(36,852 posts)wolfie001
(7,545 posts)* added to my other comment
Bumbles
(435 posts)I recall his mother having said something about what a horrible monster she'd raised. Wonder what she'd think now.
GoneOffShore
(18,016 posts)It's not something that should be here.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trumps-parents-kkk/
wolfie001
(7,545 posts)Obviously fake but with the inter-webs.........
tavernier
(14,424 posts)Its even better than you imagined. I keep returning,even though my bucket list has loads of other places yet to see.
Just cant help myself.
ZZenith
(4,468 posts)And while it was my wifes lifelong dream to visit, it was pretty far down on my wish list.
Now I cant wait to go back - its an endlessly fascinating place.
PittBlue
(4,780 posts)It is so incredibly beautiful.❤️
electric_blue68
(26,749 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,921 posts)stollen
(1,143 posts)hell hole. Why it would be on any European's bucket list is beyond me.
electric_blue68
(26,749 posts)NYC, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle.
Maybe a few more.
I live in NYC. Visited Boston, and San Francisco. Hope to get to Chicago!
*Unless things get super crazy.
GoneOffShore
(18,016 posts)I teach an English language class here and people always have questions about what is going on in the US.
surfered
(13,048 posts)stollen
(1,143 posts)over Van Gogh's grave in Auvers sur Oise.
surfered
(13,048 posts)ZDU
(1,203 posts)Thank you! Love hearing this and knowing the people of Paris, and the people in Paris are celebrating life. As it should be!
tavernier
(14,424 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,158 posts)I'm so jelly
stollen
(1,143 posts)last night, I almost took up smoking!
ITAL
(1,312 posts)...But we probably enjoyed rural France even more! A few years ago we spent about a week in Paris and another ten or so days traveling around France. Lovely country.
stollen
(1,143 posts)We met some Americans who went into the French countryside today and for the rest of their trip.
usedtobedemgurl
(2,010 posts)They have no need for a tip!
stollen
(1,143 posts)street beggar. We tipped it back o him, plus a bit more.
Paris is a compassionate city. People have been wonderful to my service dog. I haven't seen any aggression.
usedtobedemgurl
(2,010 posts)When I went years ago. The only place they were not allowed was parks! I saw dogs in bars, restaurants, the movie theater, everywhere! Glad they are treating your service dog well.
Paris makes me fear most about what is going to happen to us. I learned when they were all starving (let them eat cake) they raided the zoo animals so they could eat. Forget the Haitians, I am worried about our pets if things get bad here.
GoneOffShore
(18,016 posts)The memories of 85 years ago are still strong.
stollen
(1,143 posts)but they don't mourn in their bathrobes for months like I did when stateside. Now I'm on the verge of rolling my own cigarettes why I party with the locals. And I don't smoke.
Bev54
(13,403 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)I'd give anything for one more visit to the Musee d'Orsay.
stollen
(1,143 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:58 PM - Edit history (1)
Paris museums should have limits. Otherwise, you can't enjoy. I'd been the about 3 times, and it was easily managed. Now, I guess the Olympics have bought the city a lot of fame.
But there are several good lesser known museums in the city.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Years ago, just before leaving on my first trip to Paris, a petroleum geologist I worked with at the time told me that if I only had time to visit a single museum there, it ought to be the d'Orsay, not the Louvre. This guy told me that the Louvre required days to view properly, whereas the d'Orsay could be taken in and appreciated within a single day. That's how I ended up at the most extraordinary art exhibit I've ever encountered; if you're been there, you know what I mean. Hours after I departed and went back to the hotel, I noticed that my face was hurting, I mean, really painful. After a few moments I realized why: I'd been smiling non-stop the entire time since my museum visit---and I am not by nature a big-time smiler. That's what a visit to the d'Orsay will do for you.
I've since given my profound thanks to that geologist for his advice, more than once. And, crowds or not, I would love to see the d'Orsay, one more time...
DownriverDem
(7,006 posts)in ways that are unknown. Folks are just beginning to see the madness they were warned about. There's the crazy trump declarations to devert our attention to what is really happening with DOGE, trump & the other MAGA crazies.
stollen
(1,143 posts)to be a billionaire and want to make other people's lives so miserable. So far, people here seem to relish their city rich or poor.
Diamond_Dog
(40,362 posts)A world without Trump! Must be paradise!
stollen
(1,143 posts)Our dog LOVES jambon blanc! The kind in boucheries...less processing. We have to ration it.
Joinfortmill
(20,948 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,738 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,948 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,738 posts)stollen
(1,143 posts)Spend at least 7 days with one general thing you want to see. Then walk or bus. Bus 69 goes to a lot of scenic places from end to end.
stollen
(1,143 posts)I don't remember it being so bustling with people, and we're in winter!
A couple of big differences I've noticed was fresher air, less noise, no dog poop, and very little graffiti.
Electric vehicles are HUGE over here! There's now a law with fines to monitor the poop, and graffiti gets cleaned up as soon as a cleaning team can get to it. Macron and city managers sure did spruce themselves up for the Olympics. Dogs aren't even allowed in the Tuilleries garden. My service dog was fine.
SocialDemocrat61
(7,473 posts)stollen
(1,143 posts)in Germany. My husband's son is German. My grandfather was born in Germany, too. We've lived in Germany for 25 yrs, so don't get homesick for the states. After returning stateside for 5 years, I feel much more comfortable in Europe.
LymphocyteLover
(9,738 posts)Botany
(77,115 posts)Which is very doable in Paris.
stollen
(1,143 posts)You can find any type of restaurant here.
GoneOffShore
(18,016 posts)Try www.elcarteldeltaco.fr/menu in the 10th.
For a great lunch go to Juveniles - 47 Rue de Richelieu
Paris 75001 call for reservations - 01 42 97 46 49
A Paris institution - Bofinger next to Place Bastille - 5-7 Rue De La Bastille, Paris, FR 75004
Phone +33 1 42 72 87 82
For a place where chefs go = Le Baratin, 3 Rue Jouye-Rouve, 75020 Paris Belleville +33 1 43 49 39 70 You definitely need reservations.
SheltieLover
(79,691 posts)Have fun!
stollen
(1,143 posts)or Lafayette Gallery. Wow!!
SheltieLover
(79,691 posts)Enjoy!
stollen
(1,143 posts)SheltieLover
(79,691 posts)How ling will you be there?
groundloop
(13,759 posts)One of the biggest things that sticks in my mind is how easy it is to get around, including from city to city, without ever setting foot in an automobile. Every city we visited had exceptionally good public transportation / trams / subway, and we rode high speed rail between cities (dang it's cool sitting in a train going over 200 miles per hour!!!!!).
Another thing that stuck out is how polite most people were. Nobody talked above a subdued normal voice on the trains, no loud boom boxes etc., no gawd-awful loud car stereos blaring. I really appreciated that.
stollen
(1,143 posts)Motorcycles soon will. Little noise and less air pollution!
liberalhistorian
(20,903 posts)wonderful! What I wouldn't give for just ONE Trump-free day! Just one fucking day without having to hear his name at all!
RainCaster
(13,630 posts)Everyone interested in the great weather, slightly worried about an impending cyclone, but that's it. I so wish I could live there right now.
stollen
(1,143 posts)My brother is in Melborne. Same deal. It makes a big difference to be away from the negativity.
ShazzieB
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stollen
(1,143 posts)But if a unionized group is pissed about something, like the transportation union, everything stops, even the Eurostar. Power to the people. The US has to depend on a lone veteran at a townhall to speak his mind. And now even GOP townhalls are shut down. The dems could have refused the budget and shut down govt. Parisians would have.
DET
(2,476 posts)I spent a summer on a fellowship studying at the Sorbonne. Great experience. Make sure to visit the chateaux in the Loire Valley. Spectacular. Im sure Paris and its environs have changed significantly since I was there decades ago. I remember the pollution was awful back then. I also remember the constant male harassment; I hope thats changed.
NBachers
(19,390 posts)helpisontheway
(5,374 posts)DFW
(60,068 posts)I'm almost never here at the beginning of a week, but this week was an exception. I arrived Monday, and I'm off to Sprout City tomorrow morning for a couple of work assignments, and then, I hope!! back to Düsseldorf by 8:00 tomorrow night for a nice birthday dinner with my wife. I always try to schedule work so I never have to work on my birthday, but this year, there was just no way around it. I've already been told I HAVE to be back next week. There is no rest for the weary!
As long as it's not my last birthday, I guess I will manage to tough it out.
LittleGirl
(8,999 posts)GoneOffShore
(18,016 posts)And 'Sprout City' took me a second, and then there were serious chortles.
DFW
(60,068 posts)I've been calling it that for decades!
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)there when I was a student... many years ago. Lots of memories, including visiting the Louvre every week 😁 I loved being able to walk nearly everywhere.
Old Crank
(6,908 posts)We want to hear the organ in Notre Dame. Plus getting to see the rebuilt structure.
littlemissmartypants
(32,826 posts)dickthegrouch
(4,476 posts)Stockholm and Bali are my other two favorite cities.