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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:34 PM Mar 2025

AP: Federal judge rules USAID dismantling likely violated the Constitution, blocks DOGE from further cuts

Simon Rosenberg
‪@simonwdc.bsky.social‬
Elon Musk should be personally liable for fixing all the things he has broken. The costs of restarting programs, rehiring people, is going to be enormous, and the American people should not have to shoulder the costs. He should, as should Trump and every other billionaire who contributed to this.

‪Nick Riccardi‬ ‪
@nickriccardi.bsky.social‬
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal judge rules USAID dismantling likely violated the Constitution, blocks Elon Musk's DOGE from further cuts.

March 18, 2025 at 3:28 PM


Elon Musk should be personally liable for fixing all the things he has broken. The costs of restarting programs, rehiring people, is going to be enormous, and the American people should not have to shoulder the costs. He should, as should Trump and every other billionaire who contributed to this.

Simon Rosenberg (@simonwdc.bsky.social) 2025-03-18T19:28:15.440Z
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AP: Federal judge rules USAID dismantling likely violated the Constitution, blocks DOGE from further cuts (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2025 OP
ohh! good! Does this really mean they will stop? FirstLight Mar 2025 #1
There is a lot of discussion and emotional upset about DOGE having our personal information. This in2herbs Mar 2025 #5
...I didn't even think about the credit stuff...but yeah... FirstLight Mar 2025 #6
most companies don't have our income tax data (from IRS) or personal health info (from Medicare/Medicaid) LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #14
They have our income data and data related to our household expenses and from this they create one's in2herbs Mar 2025 #24
Corporate entities that we give info to are one thing. Bunch of young, naive, maybe criminal hackers having that info... Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #19
When the corporations that have our private info is hacked how often are citizens advised of in2herbs Mar 2025 #25
Actually, seems those instances get reported in media often, even corporation letters to those breeched get sent out Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #31
Yes, the hacking/theft is reported, but are the identities of the hackers/thieves reported??? in2herbs Mar 2025 #32
The problem isn't that they have the info. BonnieJW Mar 2025 #20
I agree - the problem is what they do with it. But given that we haven't been able to control the invasion of our in2herbs Mar 2025 #28
Exactly! And we have no idea who they are. Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #34
All these entities have SOMETHING moonbeam23 Mar 2025 #23
If you pay bills on line, these corporations have your bank account information. nt in2herbs Mar 2025 #26
Will the Democratic elected officials begin impeachment hearings soon... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #2
They are keeping their powder dry, while MAGA Mike consults the FOTUS. madinmaryland Mar 2025 #9
What good is dry powder when you keep giving away your guns? Think. Again. Mar 2025 #10
Exactly. I use that phrase (keeping their powder dry) as a derogatory comment. madinmaryland Mar 2025 #13
No--- simple fact is they can't impeach until they hold the House majority LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #16
Any member can bring an impeachment resolution any time they want... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #21
come on-- they can't impeach until they hold the House majority LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #15
Any member can submit an impeachment resolution any time... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #22
The cost of re-installing the USAID building lettering should come out of Musk's pocket. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #3
yeah, that particular act totally pissed me off! LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #17
Well, Elon can certainly be arrested for contempt if he defies a court order. He's not Trump. Walleye Mar 2025 #4
Trump controls the forces that would arrest Musk. Celerity Mar 2025 #12
in theory! LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #18
We need lawsuits against Musk and Doge. pandr32 Mar 2025 #7
We need impeachment hearings against the president who told them to do it. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #11
Kyle Griffin: Judge Chuang: Trump admin's "actions harmed not only Plaintiffs, but also the public interest Dennis Donovan Mar 2025 #8
NOW HEADS WILL ROLL!!! progressoid Mar 2025 #27
Of course they did! Elon and Trump are criminals and traitors! Initech Mar 2025 #29
Hey Judge here's a message for ya from the felon Beachnutt Mar 2025 #30
Let's try not to be too pessimistic about this senseandsensibility Mar 2025 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author swong19104 Mar 2025 #35
This ruling is exactly what seemed obvious us, as we watched in horror, while it all played out. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #36
The ketchup is gonna fly! Swede Mar 2025 #37

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
1. ohh! good! Does this really mean they will stop?
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 2025

They already have all our info now...

And with the rulings of the past couple days telling them to re-hire people, has anyone ACTUALLY gone back to their job? THAT"S a big question!

in2herbs

(4,380 posts)
5. There is a lot of discussion and emotional upset about DOGE having our personal information. This
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 2025

breach of confidentiality is upsetting but in our everyday life in order to obtain a mortgage, car loan, new phone, connection to electrical services, bank accounts, medical care, etc., all oligarchs in charge of corporate entities that we turn to for these "necessities" already have this information.

What kind of information does DOGE have that the oligarchs in charge of these corporate entities do not already have?

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
6. ...I didn't even think about the credit stuff...but yeah...
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 04:08 PM
Mar 2025

If my student loans get messed with, I'm gonna fail pretty badly...also got a text my score went down, but I'm late on a payment so I didn't think much of it. Now I'm like... uh oh.

Thenm having this info is a sdone deal too. So even if it's ruled as "a violation of privacy"...what can we do about it? you can't put that kind of toothpaste back in the tube! He's already running algorithms all over our info!!!

LymphocyteLover

(9,740 posts)
14. most companies don't have our income tax data (from IRS) or personal health info (from Medicare/Medicaid)
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:08 PM
Mar 2025

in2herbs

(4,380 posts)
24. They have our income data and data related to our household expenses and from this they create one's
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:35 PM
Mar 2025

FICA score and credit approval.

A medical report is not needed to compile medical information. This can be done via the income data and data related to our household expenses.

Under Biden a bill was passed that omitted medical debt from credit reporting. Which means that credit reporting companies had access to the data it needed to profile your medical information, otherwise this law would not have been required.

Attilatheblond

(8,734 posts)
19. Corporate entities that we give info to are one thing. Bunch of young, naive, maybe criminal hackers having that info...
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:16 PM
Mar 2025

Something entirely different. We don't know who these gamers are, what THEY might do with OUR information. There needs to be a full accounting of who they are and make them aware of what legal problems they, personally, may face if any of them misuse our data for whatever little ventures they might get into.

in2herbs

(4,380 posts)
25. When the corporations that have our private info is hacked how often are citizens advised of
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:39 PM
Mar 2025

who did the hacking, what was the age of the hackers, and what the hackers did with the info???

Attilatheblond

(8,734 posts)
31. Actually, seems those instances get reported in media often, even corporation letters to those breeched get sent out
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:03 PM
Mar 2025

and there have been more than a couple law suits where the entity that didn't protect customers' information have had monetary judgements levied and I personally know of some that had to enroll those customers in ID protection programs and the corporation's expense. Even the government OPM had to do that once; my husband's data was exposed and he had years of ID protection paid for because of the breech.

in2herbs

(4,380 posts)
32. Yes, the hacking/theft is reported, but are the identities of the hackers/thieves reported???
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:05 PM
Mar 2025

in2herbs

(4,380 posts)
28. I agree - the problem is what they do with it. But given that we haven't been able to control the invasion of our
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:46 PM
Mar 2025

privacy by our telephone service providers, how do you expect to control what anyone does with the information they obtain by hacking?

Attilatheblond

(8,734 posts)
34. Exactly! And we have no idea who they are.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:06 PM
Mar 2025

Which reminds me, I need to contract those 3 major credit reporting companies and put an order that NO new loans or credit cards be issued using my SS# and other data. If I need to get a loan at a later time, I can rescind my STOP order.

moonbeam23

(417 posts)
23. All these entities have SOMETHING
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:34 PM
Mar 2025

only SSA has EVERYTHING. You don't need to give up your birthday or SSN or mother's maiden name or bank account # for every product and service.

i leave blanks on forms all the time...no problem.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
2. Will the Democratic elected officials begin impeachment hearings soon...
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:43 PM
Mar 2025

...or will they continue to enable the fascist takeover?

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
21. Any member can bring an impeachment resolution any time they want...
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:30 PM
Mar 2025

...and they should be bringing them daily.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
22. Any member can submit an impeachment resolution any time...
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:32 PM
Mar 2025

And by now they should have submitted about 100.

SunSeeker

(58,189 posts)
3. The cost of re-installing the USAID building lettering should come out of Musk's pocket.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:44 PM
Mar 2025

Cutting off the metal lettering was destruction of federal property--a felony!



https://www.nbcnews.com/video/usaid-signage-stripped-from-d-c-headquarters-building-231415877614

Walleye

(44,585 posts)
4. Well, Elon can certainly be arrested for contempt if he defies a court order. He's not Trump.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:48 PM
Mar 2025

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
8. Kyle Griffin: Judge Chuang: Trump admin's "actions harmed not only Plaintiffs, but also the public interest
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 04:45 PM
Mar 2025
Kyle Griffin
‪@kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬
Judge Chuang: The Trump admin's "actions harmed not only Plaintiffs, but also the public interest, because they deprived the public's elected representatives in Congress of their constitutional authority to decide whether, when, and how to close down an agency created by Congress."

‪Kyle Griffin‬
@kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬
1h
BREAKING:

A federal judge just found Elon Musk and DOGE likely violated the Constitution when they unilaterally acted to shut USAID.

Judge Chuang blocked the Trump admin from taking action relating to the shut down of USAID and ordered Musk and DOGE to reinstate systems access to USAID employees.

March 18, 2025 at 4:05 PM


Judge Chuang: The Trump admin's "actions harmed not only Plaintiffs, but also the public interest, because they deprived the public's elected representatives in Congress of their constitutional authority to decide whether, when, and how to close down an agency created by Congress."

Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1.bsky.social) 2025-03-18T20:05:11.027Z

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

yellow dahlia

(5,619 posts)
36. This ruling is exactly what seemed obvious us, as we watched in horror, while it all played out.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:47 PM
Mar 2025

The destruction of USAID represented many facets of the objectives of their take over, and of muskRAT's agenda.

The repercussions can't be undone. People died.

Now what? I look forward to hearing more about the judge's order.

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