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marmar

(79,819 posts)
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:00 AM Mar 2025

Roberts can't control the mess he made


Trump is becoming a bigger problem for the Supreme Court — and John Roberts can't control it
After extending presidential immunity in Trump's Jan. 6 case, the court has no room to stop Trump's judicial attack

By Heather Digby Parton
Columnist
Published March 19, 2025 9:37AM (EDT)


(Salon) ast Friday, President Trump gave a speech at the Department of Justice to an assembled staff full of handpicked supporters. He had a prepared transcript about "law and order" but spent most of the hour talking off the cuff about his grievances against the justice system he believes did him wrong. The New York Times described it this way:

He delivered a grievance-filled attack on the very people who have worked in the building and others like them. As he singled out some targets of his rage, he appeared to offer his own vision of justice in America, one defined by personal vengeance rather than by institutional principles. “These are people that are bad people, really bad people,” Mr. Trump said. “They tried to turn America into a corrupt communist and third-world country, but in the end, the thugs failed and the truth won.”


....(snip)....

By this time you are probably screaming to yourself, "Is he kidding? The man who so gravely insulted, threatened and degraded nearly every judge he came in front of they had to throw gag orders on him to keep their families and courthouse staff safe from his rabid followers is saying it should be illegal to criticize judges?" To call it hypocritical is laughably inadequate and chutzpah doesn't even begin to describe it.

But it does reveal his own motivation in using that very tactic, not that it was hard to discern before. He does exactly what he accused his so-called enemies of doing. He threatens judges he doesn't think are favorable enough to him with the expectation that they will bend over backward to show "fairness" and prove they are not biased as he claims they are. The "playing the refs" gambit is hardly a secret and Trump hasn't exactly been subtle about it.

....(snip)....

Whether the Supreme Court's shocking decision to use Trump's Jan. 6 case to create "presidential immunity" out of nothing was motivated by sympathy or fear is unknown but their delay in deciding it was certainly a factor in making it impossible to further litigate the federal cases against Trump to determine if they qualified under the new rule. ............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/03/19/is-becoming-a-bigger-problem-for-the--and-john-roberts-cant-control-it/




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Roberts can't control the mess he made (Original Post) marmar Mar 2025 OP
They need to retract their immunity ruling SheltieLover Mar 2025 #1
They can overturn it if a new case comes before them that raises the issue. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #9
I was watching a You Tube socioligist last night SheltieLover Mar 2025 #11
The Supreme Court can reverse a previous ruling, or overturn a precedent, through a subsequent decision sop Mar 2025 #13
Ty for sharing! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #18
Super duper. GoCubsGo Mar 2025 #2
Good. Now they know what a mess they created newdeal2 Mar 2025 #3
Chief Justice Frankenstein can't control the monster he created, Ocelot II Mar 2025 #4
I was just thinking about how much this ridiculous SheltieLover Mar 2025 #14
Mr Roberts reflecting back when there was 3 EQUAL BRANCHES Emile Mar 2025 #5
I'm waiting for Robert's to be hauled away in chains Johnny2X2X Mar 2025 #6
lol NJCher Mar 2025 #21
His mess for sure. His monster for sure! bluestarone Mar 2025 #7
Yes. The Roberts' court has ruled itself obsolete Buckeyeblue Mar 2025 #8
"After extending presidential immunity in Trump's Jan. 6 case, the court has no room to stop Trump's judicial attack" hlthe2b Mar 2025 #10
The grave robbers who brought the diseased body parts to the lab... FalloutShelter Mar 2025 #12
Now they need to fix it! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #15
The court handed the newly empowered dictator a rope. usonian Mar 2025 #16
When smart people act dumb RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2025 #17
What the hell did Roberts think would happen when he gave the psychopath close to total immunity? Quiet Em Mar 2025 #19
"They tried to turn it into a third-world country"? bif Mar 2025 #20

SheltieLover

(81,100 posts)
11. I was watching a You Tube socioligist last night
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:33 AM
Mar 2025

Suggesting judges band together & file a case.

Great idea imo, but I'm not a lawrer.

Ty for weighing in!

sop

(18,841 posts)
13. The Supreme Court can reverse a previous ruling, or overturn a precedent, through a subsequent decision
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:34 AM
Mar 2025

where the court it explicitly states that the prior ruling is no longer valid. The Supreme Court can overturn its own previous ruling; that would then serve as a guideline for future cases. It can also rule on a new case before the court, explicitly stating in the new decision that a prior decision is no longer valid or applicable.

The Supreme Court can overturn a decision if "it believes the earlier ruling was incorrect, if there have been significant changes in the legal landscape or societal norms, or if the precedent was unworkable." Trump's lawlessness is clearly "a significant change in the legal landscape" and "societal norms."

SheltieLover

(81,100 posts)
18. Ty for sharing!
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:50 AM
Mar 2025

I think they'd better get right on that. But will they? I feel they might. Time will tell.

newdeal2

(5,492 posts)
3. Good. Now they know what a mess they created
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:04 AM
Mar 2025

They can choose to do something about it or not.

Ocelot II

(130,783 posts)
4. Chief Justice Frankenstein can't control the monster he created,
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:05 AM
Mar 2025

which is out running around and terrorizing the populace. Maybe the villagers with their torches and pitchforks will have to manage the situation, because Chief Justice Frankenstein is just sitting in his laboratory, fussing and fretting but all out of ideas.

SheltieLover

(81,100 posts)
14. I was just thinking about how much this ridiculous
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:36 AM
Mar 2025

Situation resembles the monster created in lab that gets ouf of control.

Johnny2X2X

(24,301 posts)
6. I'm waiting for Robert's to be hauled away in chains
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:12 AM
Mar 2025

Trump’s surrogates right now are accusing the judiciary of insurrection. They’re setting it up for a showdown that Trump has been planning for. Either the courts start supporting the dictator in whatever he wants to do or they will be done away with.

bluestarone

(22,270 posts)
7. His mess for sure. His monster for sure!
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:17 AM
Mar 2025

Today i'm 100% certain there are at the minimum 3 for sure Supreme court judges that will vote with TSF everytime!

hlthe2b

(114,127 posts)
10. "After extending presidential immunity in Trump's Jan. 6 case, the court has no room to stop Trump's judicial attack"
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:30 AM
Mar 2025

Who the hell could not have seen THAT coming. No way they could be THAT clueless. I guess they truly believed the (enabled) leopard would not bite THEIR face off.

FalloutShelter

(14,521 posts)
12. The grave robbers who brought the diseased body parts to the lab...
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:34 AM
Mar 2025

are now upset that the Monster is rampaging across the countryside.

NOT FORGIVEN. They created this monster with the complicity of the MSM, who NEVER Get tired of the name TRUMP!

FTA!

usonian

(25,791 posts)
16. The court handed the newly empowered dictator a rope.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:41 AM
Mar 2025

Dictators know what to do to useless people with rope.

Fucking moron with fancy degrees.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,166 posts)
17. When smart people act dumb
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:49 AM
Mar 2025

By John Roberts and almost every Judge Trump has ever faced !!!!

You never threw the book at him and that is the freaking problem, you should have

Quiet Em

(2,956 posts)
19. What the hell did Roberts think would happen when he gave the psychopath close to total immunity?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:12 AM
Mar 2025

The con thinks he's king now.

Just put Roberts in the line of men who threw away their reputation for the con artist.

bif

(27,054 posts)
20. "They tried to turn it into a third-world country"?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 12:09 PM
Mar 2025

Seriously? I think the rapist is doing a pretty good job of doing just that. Shithole country here we come!

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