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struggle4progress

(125,932 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:30 PM Mar 2025

Will Tesla autopilot crash into wall painted to look like road?

... YouTuber and former NASA engineer Mark Rober has perfectly demonstrated why Tesla relying entirely on visual data from a suite of cameras isn't such a good idea for driver-assistance tech.

The Elon Musk-led EV maker has given up entirely on LIDAR or radar sensors, which its many competitors have been using for object detection for years, with Musk once calling LIDAR "fricking stupid, expensive and unnecessary."

But by relying only on visual data, Tesla's Autopilot can easily be fooled by anything from heavy fog to a wall-scale painting of the road ahead, as Rober showed in his latest video ...

Worse yet, Tesla is planning to roll out an "unsupervised" version of its infamous "Full Self-Driving" driver assistance software later this year, according to Musk, which could give already complacent drivers an even bigger false sense of security ...

https://futurism.com/tesla-wall-autopilot



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Will Tesla autopilot crash into wall painted to look like road? (Original Post) struggle4progress Mar 2025 OP
It will if it was programmed by House of Roberts Mar 2025 #1
I just zinged right through it. Was there a Wile E Coyote tunnel painted on the wall? Norrrm Mar 2025 #2
Well done. H2O Man Mar 2025 #11
I guess people shouldn't paint roads on walls at the end of a street. Renew Deal Mar 2025 #3
The Tesla failed several other tests including fog and heavy rain Quixote1818 Mar 2025 #5
They also shouldn't go out in fog and rain Renew Deal Mar 2025 #7
It's not just painted walls. LudwigPastorius Mar 2025 #13
How does it react to a tunnel painted on a wall? Xavier Breath Mar 2025 #4
Seems like pointless criticism. Disaffected Mar 2025 #6
No, but the tests with the child in the road that Tesla failed and the other car passed are real world (fog, glare, etc. artemisia1 Mar 2025 #10
I'm glad he did this Meowmee Mar 2025 #8
To sum it up in one word: "FAIL". oasis Mar 2025 #9
This stuff is why cars are unaffordable madville Mar 2025 #12
Yep. The surviving brother from the "Car Talk" show... keep_left Mar 2025 #14

Quixote1818

(31,152 posts)
5. The Tesla failed several other tests including fog and heavy rain
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:25 PM
Mar 2025

While the other tech breaked for dummies in those conditions.

Xavier Breath

(6,611 posts)
4. How does it react to a tunnel painted on a wall?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:13 PM
Mar 2025

The manual should read "Please consult all Warner Brothers cartoons for potential hazardous situations."

Disaffected

(6,345 posts)
6. Seems like pointless criticism.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:25 PM
Mar 2025

How many times would a situation like that (a wall painted to look like a road) arise in real life? Only in silly YouTubes I guess.

artemisia1

(1,703 posts)
10. No, but the tests with the child in the road that Tesla failed and the other car passed are real world (fog, glare, etc.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:30 PM
Mar 2025

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
8. I'm glad he did this
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:16 PM
Mar 2025

But I already knew it is not a good idea ever, and I would never rely on that in a car.

madville

(7,847 posts)
12. This stuff is why cars are unaffordable
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:49 PM
Mar 2025

It’s to the point now where these cars will be built to be capable of everything and owners will unlock features through subscription. All the major manufacturers are doing it now or at least going that way. You’ll be paying for capabilities in the base price but have to pay an annual subscription to use them.

keep_left

(3,200 posts)
14. Yep. The surviving brother from the "Car Talk" show...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 11:52 PM
Mar 2025

...Ray Magliozzi, went on the warpath about this recently. He has a syndicated column that is carried by the local paper. Magliozzi told a story about going car shopping (IIRC, a Toyota dealer), and discovering that many features are now "subscription-based". In other words, the car is always connected to a wi-fi signal, and features can be turned off and on remotely rather than being purchased. Magliozzi was enraged, and warned his readers that if buyers go along with this, more and more automakers will create these kinds of "paywalls" for features that we used to pay for as options. They want to keep us paying forever.

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