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Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:56 PM Dec 2012

Could a sane version of the NRA be founded for gun owners who are not bat-shit crazy?

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I am picturing the ad campaign as several military vets perhaps some cops etc. all talking about how they own guns, like to hunt etc. and then say that they are for reasonable gun control. I would think an organization like this could really pull a lot of members from the NRA and with them all their clout in Washington. The NRA leadership comes off as a bunch of survivalist, nut types and most gun owners are reasonable people and not on board with that kind of whackery.

Thoughts?

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Could a sane version of the NRA be founded for gun owners who are not bat-shit crazy? (Original Post) Quixote1818 Dec 2012 OP
It used to be, nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #1
Indeed, I'm old enough to well remember the way it used liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #6
I think there already is one. Glassunion Dec 2012 #2
Interesting. They need more visibility. nt Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #4
Indeed, they do. liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #7
I'm George, and I like to shoot paper targets...not people NightWatcher Dec 2012 #3
I think so, in fact I really like your idea... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #5
Thanks, I meant to categorize the leadership as survivalist nut types Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #8
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. It used to be,
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:57 PM
Dec 2012

Most of the rank and file are not nutters. The leaders are batshit crazy.

They are bleeding members, so it's possible the rank and file will reflect LaPierre if enough people leave.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
6. Indeed, I'm old enough to well remember the way it used
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:12 PM
Dec 2012

to be. Even my ultra-liberal stepfather, who hunted, was a member, and used to help with their gun safety education programs. The mid-80's was when I think it started to change and go batshit crazy, twisting the second amendment into something it was never intended to be and considering ANY kind of safety or gun bill of any kind, no matter what, to be an "assault on their liberty." I remember when they came out against banning what were known as "cop-killer bullets"; for what fucking purpose a civilian would ever need them for, I have no idea. But they really pissed a lot of police officers and law enforcement groups off with that one.

They began seeing the police and federal law enforcment agents as the enemy, which fomented the kind of anti-government nutballery we saw in the 90's. G. Gordon "Nutball" Liddy himself was once an FBI agent, yet he was urging people regarding the "jack-booted thugs" to make "head shots, head shots, kill the sons-of-bitches" on his radio show back in the 90's; he was an NRA member and they obviously had no problem with that attitude. That was when my stepdad cut up his membership card and mailed it to them with a note telling them what they could do with it. They tried to charge him for membership for the next year and he told them to go fuck themselves and asked if they were proud of themselves and their blood-spattered hands. I remember the first President Bush repealed his membership at that time also, after the "jack-booted thugs" comments.

And the rank and file may not feel the same way as the leaders, but they are ultimately responsible and allowed it to happen and are allowing it to continue.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
7. Indeed, they do.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:13 PM
Dec 2012

I know several liberal Dem gun owners who'd be glad to join that since they sure as shit want nothing to do with the NRA.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. I'm George, and I like to shoot paper targets...not people
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:59 PM
Dec 2012

That would make a great billboard for the Rational Gunowners of America.

The NRA has become nothing more than the gun manufacturers lobby, and it works nonstop to drum up business for them at the cost of dead people.

 

OneMoreDemocrat

(913 posts)
5. I think so, in fact I really like your idea...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:00 PM
Dec 2012

but a good first step would not to categorize all NRA members as survivalist nut types...I'm sure that
there are reasonable gun owners who belong to the NRA, but as with everything else, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the most notoriety

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
8. Thanks, I meant to categorize the leadership as survivalist nut types
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:08 PM
Dec 2012

I know a lot of the members are good people. That would be the point of a new more rational gun owners group.
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