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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:00 PM Dec 2012

Bird Seed Poisons Wild Birds

You see the Scotts Miracle-Gro Company had been in the habit of applying banned pesticides to its wild bird food products. In particular, the company applied a chemical known as Storcide II to its bird food despite a warning label for that product that reads "Storcide II is extremely toxic to fish and toxic to birds and other wildlife."

Why add a compound toxic to birds to food meant to be eaten by birds? Because Scott didn't want bugs infesting its bird food during storage.

By the time Scotts stopped adding the pesticide in March 2008, the company had sold some 70 million bags of adulterated bird food. The company also submitted false documents to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, distributed pesticides with misleading labels and distributed illegal pesticides. As a result, the EPA slapped the company with $12.5 million in criminal fines and civil penalties.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=bird-seed-poisons-wild-birds-12-09-16

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Bird Seed Poisons Wild Birds (Original Post) hedgehog Dec 2012 OP
that's awful. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #1
In light of this revelation maybe the kitties will stop getting the blame for the reduction in the littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #2
Cats are still horrible for wild birds XemaSab Dec 2012 #21
house cats kill upwards of 30 million birds a year eom amborin Dec 2012 #23
If they didn't, what would we do with all those birds? aquart Dec 2012 #27
i know amborin Dec 2012 #28
Glad to see this coming out from a source like Scientific American. freshwest Dec 2012 #3
I just finished listening to a report of Inside Albany- hedgehog Dec 2012 #4
And thus will perish miserably as well. I believe the parents feel the loss, too. freshwest Dec 2012 #5
At what point does the individual buying Scotts bird seed say to themselves... Earth_First Dec 2012 #6
couldn't stand them before--will NEVER purchase a product of theirs niyad Dec 2012 #7
Another corporate stupid move. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #8
That's a good idea. Not sure we have a store up here. What do you buy? dmr Dec 2012 #9
We have a local Wild Birds Unlimited Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #10
Check with a home improvement store. HappyMe Dec 2012 #29
This is corporate ethics at work, not stupid at all. Just amoral. woo me with science Dec 2012 #13
boycott all of these...half way down page.... glinda Dec 2012 #11
"$12.5 million in criminal fines" DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #12
There goes Capitalism again. RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #14
I think I need some of this stuff to feed starlings.... lastlib Dec 2012 #15
I imagine Mother Earth might say that about the most prolific, parasitic species of all. Doremus Dec 2012 #18
I've grown to appreciate starlings. hunter Dec 2012 #20
I'll see if I can ship you some of ours..... lastlib Dec 2012 #30
People, it is always a good idea to buy bird feed from a natural or organic company. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #16
it costs amborin Dec 2012 #25
A slap on the wrist! That'll learn 'em. FreeBC Dec 2012 #17
If no one goes to jail fuck the EPA. n/t DeSwiss Dec 2012 #19
This is an excellent example of why it is so dangerous woo me with science Dec 2012 #22
as much as I dislike lowes, thst's where we get black oil sunflower seeds amborin Dec 2012 #24
We need to stop fining companies like this. Kalidurga Dec 2012 #26

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
2. In light of this revelation maybe the kitties will stop getting the blame for the reduction in the
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:06 PM
Dec 2012

local population. But has this affected the food chain? Are animals eating the dead or affected birds and then suffering effects?

amborin

(16,631 posts)
28. i know
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:25 PM
Dec 2012

you are trying to be humourous.....

but there is a scary and sad precipitous decline in bird populations worldwide and especially in the US



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. Glad to see this coming out from a source like Scientific American.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:11 PM
Dec 2012

The damage done to the population of songbirds... there is no way to calculate that.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
4. I just finished listening to a report of Inside Albany-
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:14 PM
Dec 2012

If the parent birds survive, the fledglings that hatch out of their eggs have deformed wings and can never fly!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. And thus will perish miserably as well. I believe the parents feel the loss, too.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:29 PM
Dec 2012

Humans have been much too careless with 'creation.' The love of money over life... again.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
6. At what point does the individual buying Scotts bird seed say to themselves...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:33 PM
Dec 2012

"Hmmm...I wonder why I would buy bird food from a company traditionally known for fertilizer and pesticides...?"

dmr

(28,347 posts)
9. That's a good idea. Not sure we have a store up here. What do you buy?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:49 PM
Dec 2012

I love the birds, and would buy online if I knew I was getting a quality product.

Thanks!

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
10. We have a local Wild Birds Unlimited
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:55 PM
Dec 2012

I purchase a sack of choice blend and wildlife mix. When hatching season begins I switch to whatever they recommend that has more of a fruit blend.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
29. Check with a home improvement store.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:10 PM
Dec 2012

Or a local hardware store. They sometimes sell seed and feeders.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
13. This is corporate ethics at work, not stupid at all. Just amoral.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
Dec 2012

They determined that the profit to be made by selling poisoned bird seed exceeded the potential fines to be accrued.

This is what happens when we cede our government to corporate ethics. There are a million decisions being made right now, that have to do with the health of our families and our cities. They are being made based on profit, too.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
12. "$12.5 million in criminal fines"
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:17 PM
Dec 2012

$12.5m to Scotts is not even lunch money.

People go to prison for doing less to dogs.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
14. There goes Capitalism again.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:24 PM
Dec 2012

Destroying our only home, in the name of money.

When are people going to see that capitalism is one of the real villains responsible for the destruction of our environment?
When will they wake up?

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
15. I think I need some of this stuff to feed starlings....
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:25 PM
Dec 2012

they're an absolute nuisance here--no redeeming value whatsoever.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
18. I imagine Mother Earth might say that about the most prolific, parasitic species of all.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:15 AM
Dec 2012

Us.

I think she's in the process of producing her own "poison food" solution to invasive homo sapien cancer. After we're gone maybe all those creatures with no redeeming value will be able to live in peace, finally.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
20. I've grown to appreciate starlings.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:00 AM
Dec 2012

When the starlings showed up here in California the population of another imported pest, garden snails, became negligible.

I remember seeing thousands of snails squashed by passing cars in streets and parking lots on wet warm days.

I remember snails devouring new gardens.

Now snails are rare. The starlings eat nearly all of them.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
30. I'll see if I can ship you some of ours.....
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:12 PM
Dec 2012

Here in Missouri, they outnumber humans by about 50:1. Right now they're eating leftover corn in the fields that deer or other mammals would be eating. Meaning those other animals have to find something else for food. In the aftermath of our killer drought, that basically means they go hungry.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
16. People, it is always a good idea to buy bird feed from a natural or organic company.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:51 PM
Dec 2012

The seller shares your values on protecting birds and nature. The products may cost a little more and take a little longer to get your hands on, but you won't harm birds and other wildlife when you use the feed.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
22. This is an excellent example of why it is so dangerous
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:05 AM
Dec 2012

to cede our government to corporations. Corporations don't have morality. They function for profit and the bottom line, period.

They knew. Someone obviously made a calculation. Continuing to sell the seed and facing any fines or judgments that would come of that was more lucrative than doing the right thing.

We are putting analogous judgments - about war, about environmental issues, about health care, about the treatment of our poor and elderly, about our educational system - in the hands of corporations every single day we don't fight back against the purchase of our government.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
24. as much as I dislike lowes, thst's where we get black oil sunflower seeds
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:13 AM
Dec 2012

14.99 for a 17 lb sack; used to be 20lbs.

Also get nyger and various mixes from target.

Hate going there but Petco is too expensive

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