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sasha031

(6,700 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:08 PM Dec 2012

Tennessee Considers Training And Arming Schoolteachers To Protect Against Shootings

Tennessee has emerged this week as a center of the “the answer is more guns in schools” sentiment following the Newtown, Conn. elementary school shooting.

A member of the Republican-controlled legislature plans during its upcoming session to introduce a bill that would allow the state to pay for secretly armed teachers in classrooms so, the sponsor told TPM, potential shooters don’t know who has a gun and who doesn’t.

Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) has said the idea will be part of his discussions about how to prevent a shooting like the one in Newtown from happening in the Volunteer State.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/tennessee-armed-teachers.php




Wait I thought teachers were lazy and overpaid. Now they want them to be trained and armed Rambo's

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Tennessee Considers Training And Arming Schoolteachers To Protect Against Shootings (Original Post) sasha031 Dec 2012 OP
my state is in the grips of republicans, top to bottom spanone Dec 2012 #1
They can't be trusted to decide what to teach gollygee Dec 2012 #2
Oh this will end well. MadHound Dec 2012 #3
only a f*cking idiot bowens43 Dec 2012 #4
What a bunch of idiots duffyduff Dec 2012 #5
But training them more and giving them more resources to, oh, TEACH, is not up for consideration??? Roland99 Dec 2012 #6
Typical red state idiots. The LA police chief is putting trained police officers into each school in bluestate10 Dec 2012 #7
Well that's just stupid on many levels. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #8
Good points Corgigal Dec 2012 #15
Yes, because there's nothing more necessary at house fires than more gasoline hatrack Dec 2012 #9
A little crossfire goes a long way. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #10
fucking nuts HiPointDem Dec 2012 #11
If teachers wanted to be cops, we'd train and get paid like cops. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #12
Good to know... cynatnite Dec 2012 #13
Yeah let's throw a few more gallons of gasoline on the fire. Initech Dec 2012 #14
Sent an email to our state rep...I mean state douchebag. n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #16

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
2. They can't be trusted to decide what to teach
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:12 PM
Dec 2012

or to hand out tylenol

But we'll trust that they'll safely store their deadly weapons in their classrooms near our kids where our kids won't get them, and that they'll know how to handle them in a crisis.

But even with all that new responsibility, we'll still call them union thugs and we'll still think they're underpaid.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
5. What a bunch of idiots
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:19 PM
Dec 2012

This would only benefit the lawyers who bring about civil suits when the certified staff screw up.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
7. Typical red state idiots. The LA police chief is putting trained police officers into each school in
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
Dec 2012

the city. As normal, the Blue decision makes the most sense.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Well that's just stupid on many levels.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:28 PM
Dec 2012

1) Teachers are there to teach, not be paramilitary swat team.
2) Teachers are busy enough with their teaching. Where will they make time for training and practice?
3) Even professionals have accidents. I witnessed a cop shoot a hole in the floor of a private club when he was unloading his gun. It's logical to assume accidents would happen with greater frequency with teachers.
4) Suppose a teacher is attempting to subdue an unruly kid, and they grab the teacher's gun?
5)Assuming this program is voluntary, would parents have the choice of armed or unarmed teacher? Suppose no parents wanted the armed teachers?
6) How and where are the teachers expected to secure their guns when not teaching? Many have kids at home, not safe for guns there. So if all the guns are kept at the school, isn't that a tempting target for burglers?

I'm sure there's many more...

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
15. Good points
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:24 AM
Dec 2012

And another thing to consider, you are the armed teacher and you hear shooting. Do you run towards the gunfire or protect your own students? Ethical questions that no one is thinking about.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
9. Yes, because there's nothing more necessary at house fires than more gasoline
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:29 PM
Dec 2012

Fuck, this country gets more stupid by the minute.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
10. A little crossfire goes a long way.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:41 AM
Dec 2012

Fucking idiots.

I can just picture a surprised, adrenalized 20-something-year-old going for a locked cabinet and getting it on with someone with a plan.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
12. If teachers wanted to be cops, we'd train and get paid like cops.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:44 AM
Dec 2012

Teachers are not going to want to go for this. It's completely stupid political grandstanding.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
13. Good to know...
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:48 AM
Dec 2012

I got a recent email from my son's school explaining what they do to protect students. I will use it to talk to my representative about this. He is a douche, but I'll make sure my voice is heard.

I want teachers in our schools. Not armed guards.

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