What about outing people who have flake weapons?

[gulliver]

What if there were a place you could go to simply post the full name and other information about people with flake weapons, weapons caches, and so forth? Then employers could search for the names of prospective employees and rule out the ones who might be weapon flakes. Parents could find out if their kids were going to a home with a weapon flake in it. It might even help law enforcement identify criminals.

I'm thinking most of these people with AR-15s and AKs wouldn't want everyone to know about it. The impracticality of it would outweigh the cool pretty fast.

Here you go, Julian Assange.

[NYC_SKP]

1. wth is a "flake weapon"?

[Earth_First]

2. +1

[Enrique]

3. snowballs?

[Hoyt]

6. I'm not sure either, but I get the gist. So no need to ask.

[derby378]

7. Bad cases of dandruff?

There are some shampoos that could help.

[gulliver]

9. That's in the eye of the beholder.

The idea is to let a lot of beholders decide what they are willing to tolerate and what makes their skin crawl. For me, I listed a couple of examples, the AK and AR-15.

[slackmaster]

12. So, you want to make it easier for opportunistic thieves looking for weapons to steal?

Great plan, gulliver.

[derby378]

16. Yep, that's what I'm thinking...

Here we're supposed to be talking about crime prevention - and then this happens. "Name and shame?" Hell and no.

[gulliver]

20. I anticipated this argument.

It doesn't hold water. True, Joe Schmo might have an AR-15 burglarized, but I think the criminals can already get what they need. And Joe Schmo already bragged about his AR-15 to a bunch of folks. And who says that Joe isn't a criminal himself. Maybe the cops would like to know he has an AR-15.

I realize it's a bit incendiary, but my suggestion does make a point I think.

[slackmaster]

27. I find the idea of publishing personal information about people who aren't breaking any laws...

...Repugnant. Fucked up like a football bat. Like Gladys Kravitz with a tap on all of her neighbors' phones and infrared cameras aimed at their bedroom windows.

Mind your own business.

[gulliver]

28. That is your right, of course.

You wouldn't have to post the names of anyone. Other people might want to. I tend to categorize flake weapon ownership with child pornography, animal cruelty, etc. I actually think most flake weapon owners probably derive a lot of silly pleasure from pushing the envelope of the secrecy taboo. But this subject is bigger than that.

If someone posted "so and so has two twelve gauges, a deer rifle, and a .357 magnum" I doubt it would have much effect. But if they posted "so and so has an AR-15," then I think "so and so" might get fired the next day...or encouraged to leave.

[slackmaster]

31. I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY FUCKING THING

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. My lord, so you think the Fourth is just a piece of paper?

This falls in the same fringe category as Governor Perry going, "the solution is to arm the teachers."

[gulliver]

42. I don't see how the Fourth Amendment plays into it.

I'm talking about a private site and individual citizens making the decision to post the names of the people who own weapons they would prefer others not to know about. And then it would be individual citizens deciding to shun or accept the people with the weapons. The Fourth Amendment and the Second Amendment don't come into play.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. You could, rightfully so, be charged with accessory to a crime

If somebody steals the weapon and commits a crime with it.

It is fringe. There are far better solutions.

O'Reilly, stuck clock and all, accidentally bumped into one today, and there is precedent as well.

He said they should be registered with the FBI. I forgive him for not knowing the right agency, ATF. 1934 and 1968 and how we dealt with full auto guns are the precedent.

Read into it...legally owning a tommy gun is a real PITA and what can I say? Just getting cleared to own a Tommy is a royal pain. That alone has greatly reduced ownership.

[naaman fletcher]

55. What is a flake weapon? nt

[Bake]

56. Stop right there!

Or I'll pelt you with snowballs!

But since I keep 'em in the freezer, they might be iceballs. Fair warning!



Bake

[Hoyt]

51. Except gun cultists do push the envelop of the law, just like polluters, banksters, etc.

It can be legal, but still immoral. The promotion of guns by folks who can't walk into a restaurant without one tucked away, is the latter.

[slackmaster]

58. It must frustrate you tremendously that you can't snoop into your neighbors' belongings

That makes me smile.

[Hoyt]

59. I know who has guns where I live, they are obvious right wing callous bigots.

Don't need a registry to know who pushes spirit of law to satisfy their need for lethal weapons. One can spot em walking down the street.

Enjoy your guns.

[jberryhill]

25. This

[ManiacJoe]

47. It is always a good laugh when

a woman with a pink rifle out scores all the guys around her!

[Rhiannon12866]

39. My best guess:

[NYC_SKP]

49. Bwahahhhahahahaha!

[littlemissmartypants]

52. IMHO

it reads as a bad pun and possibly an enigmatic insult. A double entendre that uses a word which in slang not only means oddball but implies one who behaves in an odd or eccentric manner. It would not be my choice of words as it seemingly insults those on the fringes of society like the severe to profoundly mentally ill. IMHO. LMSP

[Fumesucker]

60. That's how you make flint arrow/spear heads

You flake them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_point

[slackmaster]

4. By flake weapons do you mean flint arrow heads, spear points, and hand axes?

[gulliver]

22. Those would definitely be on the list. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Do those come in auto, semi or single shot?

Had to be asked.

[slackmaster]

32. They are most effective when used with the original "Shoulder Thing That Goes Up": The Atlatl!

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. A magnificent piece of technology actually.

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. Cool! What will you call it? Have a domain name yet?

Or is this just a call for someone else to act?

[doc03]

8. Are you serious? Those people want you to know they are prowd

of their guns.

[gulliver]

10. Right, if they are in control of who knows.

I don't think they want anyone who wants to know to know.

[kelly1mm]

11. Also known as "Hey criminals who can't buy weapons, get them here!" list. No thanks. nt

[ProgressiveProfessor]

13. Bear in mind that the AR format is the most popular rifle in the US by far

Consider this...About half the homes in the US have firearms in them. Pick the ones one either side and report one of them.

[gulliver]

14. Banning them is harder than just posting the owner's names.

Anyone could do that. I'm for banning assault weapons, but I think a true social nightmare visited upon the owners courtesy of the Internet might be more effective. Might hurt the market for these things.

[letemrot]

17. So you want people's personal decisions

And lifestyle to be used as a discriminator in employment, education and other important life areas. Yeah.. What could possibly go wrong with that?

[gulliver]

29. Only about flake weapons.

Yes, I think if people want to have the weapons, then I want to know about it in the same way I want to know about someone who molests children or fights dogs. Owning an AR-15? Is that as bad as fighting dogs? No. Some people might not fire you for owning an AR-15. I would, but others might not. It's their right to decide.

This is the path we are on anyway. All these AR-15s that are flying off the shelves now will be flying into landfills as keeping them private becomes less and less possible in the Internet age.

[letemrot]

30. Well what's to stop them from outing

Their gay neighbors or Muslim or open marriage couples, swingers etc? None of which is illegal; but there are nuts who find any/all that 'morally questionable.' Would you support those sites as well? As long as its not the government doing it, of course?

[gulliver]

38. No, I wouldn't support those sites.

People are getting more and more tolerant of things that were once "morally questionable." We are getting more practical. There is a practical difference between a flake neighbor who has a cache of weapons and one who is a swinger, and people are starting to get that.

[letemrot]

43. Ok. Go ahead and start the website

I'm curious to see how it plays out.. And what your reaction will be to all the various 'outing' websites that pop up in response. As you said, it's all legal activities; and it won't be the government doing it.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

45. As long as they keep up their property and stay off my lawn, should I care?

It really doesn't matter what our neighbors do or have in most cases.

[Mr Peabody]

15. How about a 1-800# for people you suspect have mental issues - like they do with drunk drivers?

[Aerows]

18. Flake weapon?

Does it fire grits and corn-nuts at you? If it includes maple syrup, I might be intrigued.

[spin]

19. The obvious problem with your idea is that ...

posting the name and info about someone who owned assault style rifles could lead to these weapons being stolen by a criminal and then resold to someone who would use them to murder.

[Incitatus]

35. The other problem being people being falsely put on the site by someone with a grudge. nt

[lunasun]

21. if it is legal then what r u reporting? Or just outing folks? + imagine all the scorned lovers etc

falsely adding names of non owners for snix

[gulliver]

23. Right. Scorned lovers would be a big info source.

Again, folks would have the legal right to do whatever is legal. They just wouldn't be able to keep their gun information private. Not because the government was doing it mind you, but because people on the Internet of their own free will would be doing it. It would not be stoppable.

[a geek named Bob]

53. breach of privacy?

personally, I'm waiting for the lawsuits...

[undeterred]

24. How is this a question that belongs in General Discussion?

[slackmaster]

34. GD is now Gungeon Lite(TM)

Stuff that wouldn't be tolerated in the Gun Control & RKBA Group due to its limited scope of acceptable subject matter is now allowed in GD.

[Mel Content]

33. how do flake weapons work...? are they anything like guns?

[rrneck]

40. Excellent!

We should do the same with flake ideas. Please post your name, address, social security number and credit card number.

[Ghost in the Machine]

48. ^^^THIS^^^ +1000

How about it, "gulliver"? I want to start a website about the most outrageous, goofy, asinine posts ever posted on the world wide web, and use their real names, addresses, phone numbers and *especially* their places of employment, so other good, smart people don't accidentally do business with that company for fear that the asinine goofiness may somehow rub off on them!

Please provide the requested information ASAP!! so I can get my project started!

Thanks in advance!

Ghost

[a geek named Bob]

54. +50

[ecstatic]

41. Not sure what that is, but it would also out

those of us who don't have weapons. Both flakes and non flake owners would be exposed. The only winners would be psychos and criminals.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

46. Indeed, if gun owners are just evil people looking to gun down someone as some here have claimed

The home invader with a minimum of smarts would avoid those homes and go after the ones not on the list. Unintended consequences to be sure.

[hobbit709]

50. you mean like these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_tool

they served the human race quite well for 100,000s of years.

[Bake]

57. While you're at it, be sure and post the names of your neighbors

who are doing anything else you object to. BE ALERT! My neighbor has a grow-light! OMG!!!

Good lord ...

Bake