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Yesterday they called me a union thug (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 OP
You've pushed me around enough! evlbstrd Dec 2012 #1
Never forget proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #8
What is a union thug to do? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #2
Very true and appropriate! teddy51 Dec 2012 #3
nice one demtenjeep Dec 2012 #4
And on top of all that, they STILL won't let you teach the way you want to. Squinch Dec 2012 #5
"Union thug?" Wear that badge with PRIDE derby378 Dec 2012 #6
! Bozita Dec 2012 #12
Holy Hell Aerows Dec 2012 #7
Oh my goodness - the right calls for arming union thugs! salin Dec 2012 #9
Yeah, how does THAT sit with you teabaggers, 'eh? calimary Dec 2012 #17
I don't think it is possible for them to realize the irony. Thav Dec 2012 #35
Yeah, they don't trust you with collective bargaining though! Union Scribe Dec 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Dec 2012 #11
Perhaps if we arm the teachers, the repugs... sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #13
Welcome to DU, sanatanadharma! calimary Dec 2012 #19
This is a perfect description. drm604 Dec 2012 #26
Why soitenly! calimary Dec 2012 #43
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #14
LMSP kicking. n/t littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #15
I am having a wonderful time picturing SheilaT Dec 2012 #16
Just think of Mother Jones, in jeans and a t-shirt. and a bandana, I can see it. libdem4life Dec 2012 #21
Good Luck watoos Dec 2012 #18
I loved that movie "Pajama Game" kimbutgar Dec 2012 #20
I'll have to watch it again! proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #22
In 1966 the airline mechanics for a number of airlines SheilaT Dec 2012 #23
Doris Day in Teacher's Pet ErikJ Dec 2012 #24
My mother looked like Doris Day when she was young. Hissyspit Dec 2012 #28
It's very simple, really. malthaussen Dec 2012 #25
Dead on......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #39
Kick nt Hissyspit Dec 2012 #27
They only call you a hero.... AnneD Dec 2012 #29
+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #31
Did you know that OldEurope Dec 2012 #32
That is a misleading stat.... AnneD Dec 2012 #33
First they call you names, then give you a gun? mrdmk Dec 2012 #30
And "terrorists", don't forget that one. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #34
I miss those days proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #40
No kidding. They'll think of something soon. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #41
K&R! countryjake Dec 2012 #36
Does that mean they want teachers packing on the picket line? blackspade Dec 2012 #37
I was thinking something more like at the negotiating table. Bozita Dec 2012 #42
indeed. blackspade Dec 2012 #45
and........................ unionthug777 Dec 2012 #38
Then you must be doing something right standingtall Dec 2012 #44

derby378

(30,252 posts)
6. "Union thug?" Wear that badge with PRIDE
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:34 PM
Dec 2012

After what happened in Michigan, we're going to need all the union help we can get.

salin

(48,955 posts)
9. Oh my goodness - the right calls for arming union thugs!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:53 PM
Dec 2012

the irony is mindnumbing.

The ridiculous expectations per such policies are also mindnumbing.

The first accident (predictable) will morph teachers back into incompetents (per rw rhetoric about teachers prior to this week.)

It will also result in a huge law suit. Can the state legislature (that is state govt) be held liable?

Thav

(946 posts)
35. I don't think it is possible for them to realize the irony.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:20 PM
Dec 2012

Teachers: Bad.
Guns: Good.
People with guns: Good.
More people with guns: Good!

See, People with guns cannot be bad, therefore Teachers with guns is good. Everything else that teachers want is still bad, but teachers with guns is a good thing, in their minds.

I still think it's a horrible idea.

Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
13. Perhaps if we arm the teachers, the repugs...
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:20 AM
Dec 2012

...will back off on pushing the teachers around. You want a piece of me Senator!

calimary

(81,320 posts)
19. Welcome to DU, sanatanadharma!
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:50 AM
Dec 2012

Glad you're here! I think they just don't really grasp what it is they're wishing for. Which is a coast-to-coast DIY unregulated yer-on-yer-own, every-man-for-himself Shoot-Out at the OK Corral. In which the "good guys" always win and are always far better shots than the bad guys are. And the good guys can nail the bad guys while moving, bouncing around on horseback, while the bad guys are moving at the same time, and with a single shot blow the bad guys' heads off. You know, just like they do in the movies! Instant Rambo meets Will Smith! Carnage on Parade! Cool, 'eh? Always works - every time!



The ridiculously weird world-view these people have - I swear, it's just staggering. Completely dumbfounding!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
16. I am having a wonderful time picturing
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:32 AM
Dec 2012

you both as a union thug, and then as a heavily armed, yet mild-mannered school marm.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
20. I loved that movie "Pajama Game"
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:09 AM
Dec 2012

I learned about unions watching that movie. It was such a strange era to us now knowing they went on strike for a 3 cents raise. The people made enough money to live on because of union wages! I have pajama game in VHS makes me want to watch it again.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. In 1966 the airline mechanics for a number of airlines
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:20 AM
Dec 2012

went on strike. I just did a quick google search and could not locate the specifics, but the were wanting something like an extra 10 cents an hour. I know that some twenty years ago, well before the internet and google, I stumbled across some information about the strike and was astonished at how little they seemed to be asking.

During that strike, my younger brother who was trying to fly from upstate NY to Tucson, AZ, got stuck for a day or two in Las Vegas, NV.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
28. My mother looked like Doris Day when she was young.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:35 AM
Dec 2012

Actually she looked BETTER than Doris Day, if you can believe that.

Not sure what happened with me.

I've seen that movie, by the way.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
25. It's very simple, really.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:32 AM
Dec 2012

The most sacred and untouchable right in the Western world is property. Those who think it is life are laboring under a fatal misconception. If you will keep this truth always at the front of your mind, then much that the RW does will become clear to you.

-- Mal

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
39. Dead on.........
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:17 PM
Dec 2012

Property matters more than ANYTHING. Even, as you said, it matters more than life itself. ESPECIALLY if your life doesn't involve owning property.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
29. They only call you a hero....
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:21 AM
Dec 2012

when you are dead. Until then you are an uppity teacher demanding to live off the government tit.

How about some funding in education to prevent this from happening. And I don't mean metal detectors. If we had more counselors and psychiatrists in school, we would not need metal detectors.

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
32. Did you know that
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

in 18 of the 24 states that voted for Romney, it is legal for teachers to beat at the children? I read this in my German newspaper today, I have no link, but they cited a survey from Human Rights Watch: in 2009 more than 200.000 thousand children in the USA (most of them living in the southern states) were battered by their teachers.




AnneD

(15,774 posts)
33. That is a misleading stat....
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:35 PM
Dec 2012

Texas went for Romney. I promise you....If you raise a hand to a child in Houston ISD, you will have your certification yanked so fast. And many schools are the same way. It might be legal but it doesn't happen, esp in the larger cities and districts.

My adopted niece was an abused child. They had corporal punishment in her school. My brother and SIL told the school in no uncertain terms was she was not to be spanked (and she had aggressive tendencies because of this). They told the school that should they have a problem-they could be reached by phone and someone would be down there in less than 10 minutes. She never under went any corporal punishment at the school. She has never been spanked since her adoption but she had been chastised to tears a few times and slammed more than her share of doors. They really had to do some heavy anger management training with her.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
30. First they call you names, then give you a gun?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:18 PM
Dec 2012

Well that's stupid...

What is next, they give you a break as long as you do their bidding unquestioned?

Careful who you trust!

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
40. I miss those days
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:19 PM
Dec 2012

I want to be called a terrorist again. That wasn't as bad as the vilification we get nowadays.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
41. No kidding. They'll think of something soon.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:34 PM
Dec 2012

Setting aside the current tragedy, this present love in' by the media toward educators is like a bad case of lousy make up sex.

Don't worry we'll all be carrying guns soon and then that can become a part of the evaluation. After that, all we have to do is take the kids in our homes and raise em' up. After that, we'll pay for their college.

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
42. I was thinking something more like at the negotiating table.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:57 PM
Dec 2012

In these days of unending givebacks, this might level the playing field.

unionthug777

(740 posts)
38. and........................
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:34 PM
Dec 2012

what's wrong with that??? lol i, myself, am a IBEW lu494 union thug, and proud of it !!!

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