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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:09 AM Dec 2012

Japanese whalers win injunction against Sea Shepherd activists

Japan whalers given Sea Shepherd injunction by US court

A US court has ordered conservation group Sea Shepherd to stay at least 500 yards away from Japan's whaling fleet in the Southern Ocean.

The US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit banned the group from "physically attacking any vessel engaged by the plaintiffs".

The court was responding to an appeal by Japan's whalers, after an earlier case was rejected.

The injunction remains in force until the court formally rules on the appeal.

The ruling by the court also bans Sea Shepherd from "navigating in a manner that is likely to endanger the safe navigation" of any whaling vessel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20778616

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Japanese whalers win injunction against Sea Shepherd activists (Original Post) The Straight Story Dec 2012 OP
From the story... catnhatnh Dec 2012 #1
they are our friends....... madrchsod Dec 2012 #3
While I think Watson is a bozo, its not clear that the US court has jurisdiction ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #6
Well, that settles that, then... petronius Dec 2012 #2
Jurisdiction? flvegan Dec 2012 #4
That's what I was thinking...why is this even being handled in a U.S. court? DearHeart Dec 2012 #5
In the lead into every lawsuit there is a section which states why the plaintiff believes that the ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7
Would love to see those docs DearHeart Dec 2012 #10
I assume some one here has access to the legal databases, I would love to see them too ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #11
It could apply to the handful of Americans on the crew. Xithras Dec 2012 #8
sooooooooooooooo????? MFM008 Dec 2012 #9
that one is actually quite easy to answer Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2012 #12

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
1. From the story...
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:20 AM
Dec 2012

But Sea Shepherd vowed to continue its activities, questioning the legality of the ruling.


"It is a complex situation whereby a United States court is issuing an injunction against Dutch and Australian vessels carrying an international crew, operating out of Australia and New Zealand in international waters," it said in a statement on its website.

Why the hell is a US court helping Japan "research" these species to extinction???

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
6. While I think Watson is a bozo, its not clear that the US court has jurisdiction
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:20 AM
Dec 2012

Last edited Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:03 AM - Edit history (1)

However, if the injunction is recognized by the nations under whose flags he flies, that could be different matter.

flvegan

(64,408 posts)
4. Jurisdiction?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:39 AM
Dec 2012

Define "physically attacking" and "engaged"

Who cares. Operation Zero Tolerance. Fucking deal with it, whale killers.

Godspeed, Capt. Watson and Sea Shepherd.

Sierra.
Ibsa I and II
Astrid
Susan
Theresa
LOL, Hvalur 6 and 7. Nothing short of artistry.
Nybraena
Senet

And the carnage from Agenda 21. Sweet, sweet carnage. Send 'em to the bottom, hurt no one just the instruments.

LOL!! Decades of FAIL continue on, whalers.

DearHeart

(692 posts)
5. That's what I was thinking...why is this even being handled in a U.S. court?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:03 AM
Dec 2012

We don't have jurisdiction in international waters, with an international crew and boats not registered to the U.S.

I hope they don't let up at all on those fuckin whalers! Drive the friggin whalers out of business for good!!!

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
7. In the lead into every lawsuit there is a section which states why the plaintiff believes that the
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:05 AM
Dec 2012

court has jurisdiction. It might be useful to find the docs and see what they say. I too would be curious.

DearHeart

(692 posts)
10. Would love to see those docs
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Dec 2012

Amazing how we never hear about any of this in the "news", but then again it's not so amazing, but rather typical!

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
8. It could apply to the handful of Americans on the crew.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:23 AM
Dec 2012

One of the smallboat captains is an American, as is their helicopter pilot. They could potentially face prosecution if they violated the injunction, but only if they did it themselves (a real danger for the smallboat captain). The rest of the Americans on the crews don't have any control over the ships, so it would be nearly impossible to prosecute them for simply being onboard when a "violation" occurred.

Watson is Canadian, none of his other captains are American, and none of his vessles are registered in the U.S. Since they aren't operating in U.S. waters, there's no other American interest here. The Japanese must know that, so there's clearly some other angle that we aren't aware of yet.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
9. sooooooooooooooo?????
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:06 AM
Dec 2012

An American court issues an order in the artic waters against an international crew? How does that work exactly? Sea Shepard, please proceed.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
12. that one is actually quite easy to answer
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:52 AM
Dec 2012

1: they are a public charity in the us(not to relevant but likely it gives the courts some authority)

2: they have one of their headquarters in Friday Harbor, Washington(and unless he has moved doesn't Watson live there himself?) (I'll admit this information might be out of date since I haven't double checked it and things obviously might have changed since I read something about that a while back). If the two parts above is accurate that likely would give the courts the required authority.

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