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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:41 PM Jan 2012

It's hard for me to believe a white mother would have been arrested for this,

given the circumstances. Apparently there is a law in Georgia that makes it illegal for anyone to help a minor to get a tattoo, and someone reported this mother after observing a 10 year old's tattoo. And so the mother was arrested and charged with child abuse.

Whatever you think about tattoos, I doubt you would blame this mother -- not when you hear her response.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/01/georgia-mom-arrested-for-allowing-10-year-old-to-get-tattoo/


When Chuntera Napier’s son Gaquan Napier asked her if he could get a memorial tattoo for his 12-year-old brother Malik who died after being hit by a car, Napier was touched by the request.

“My son came to me and said, ‘Mom, I want to get a tattoo with Malik on it, rest in peace,’” she told ABC News’ Atlanta affiliate WSBTV. “It made me feel good to know that he wanted his brother on him.”

When Gaquan Napier was asked why he wanted the tattoo, he said, “Because it represents my brother.”

“What do I say to a child who wants to remember his brother? It’s not like he was asking me, ‘Can I get Sponge Bob?” Napier said. “He asked me [for] something that’s in remembrance of his brother. How can I say no?”

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It's hard for me to believe a white mother would have been arrested for this, (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2012 OP
As I said in another thread, he should have asked to have gotten his ears pierced. Brickbat Jan 2012 #1
And that rather exposes the hypocrisy in all this, don't you think? n/t markpkessinger Jan 2012 #2
I don't think race would matter in this case ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #9
Same here LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #25
Whom did she engage to provide the tattoo? jberryhill Jan 2012 #3
She's not telling. The article says it might not have been a professional. n/t pnwmom Jan 2012 #29
Uh-huh... you see where I'm going, eh? jberryhill Jan 2012 #31
I agree that a white mother would not have been charged, but MotherPetrie Jan 2012 #4
Harmful how? The Doctor. Jan 2012 #51
It seems like it should have been illegal for the tattoo artist to ink a minor. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #5
Agree: no racial issue Mimosa Jan 2012 #17
I have to agree. Broderick Jan 2012 #19
No racial issue? DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #45
Georgia actually has done so in the past.... Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #6
A poor white woman would be---a wealthy black woman wouldn't be. It's virgogal Jan 2012 #7
My comment posted under the story at the link. RC Jan 2012 #8
I have a problem with two things. xmas74 Jan 2012 #15
I agree this wasn't optimal. But should the woman have been arrested and charged criminally? pnwmom Jan 2012 #32
Yes. She should be arrested and charged criminally. She stood by and watched msanthrope Jan 2012 #34
The link says the police chief stated it "appeared" to be the work of an amateur. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #21
Is it hard for you to believe that Recovered Repug Jan 2012 #10
I think that under the circumstances, a memorial to a dead brother, pnwmom Jan 2012 #33
She can plead that as a defense at her trial. The old "I had a good and sentimental msanthrope Jan 2012 #37
You'd be wrong Codeine Jan 2012 #11
Good find. I'm baffled as to why the OP decided to inject race into this incident. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #14
If you're baffled then you haven't been paying attention pnwmom Jan 2012 #35
If my kid was 10? No. HockeyMom Jan 2012 #12
I would ahve said yes, when you are legally allowed to obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #13
+1 nt Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #23
Some might view your use of "white mother" as a racist, bigoted statement. nt jody Jan 2012 #16
It's fine on DU to Le Taz Hot Jan 2012 #26
Sad that DU'ers from all races, religions, cultures can't find common ground. How can any government jody Jan 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #30
Please explain how this white mother managed to demonize all white people? pnwmom Jan 2012 #41
Well, those "some" are wrong. I have no prejudice against white mothers, pnwmom Jan 2012 #38
principle Bill O-Rights Jan 2012 #40
Well, that's getting to the heart of the matter. pnwmom Jan 2012 #42
Thank you, I think it's advantageous for us not to appear illiterate. Bill O-Rights Jan 2012 #43
I think it's advantageous not to appear petty. n/t pnwmom Jan 2012 #44
Well, we all have the choice. Bill O-Rights Jan 2012 #48
In GA a white mother probably would get in trouble over this. Mimosa Jan 2012 #18
I agree. cordelia Jan 2012 #20
+1. When did child abuse become a racial issue? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #22
Oh--when your 10-year old kid shows up to school with a jailhouse tat, the cops are getting called. msanthrope Jan 2012 #24
No, I didn't see the actual tattoo. Thanks for the info, misanthrope. n/t pnwmom Jan 2012 #39
Here's a picture of mom and kid's tattoos (kid on right). It's not so bad. uppityperson Jan 2012 #47
I would have had no trouble saying no to a request like that frrom a 10-year-old. slackmaster Jan 2012 #27
And she didn't say to the kid XemaSab Jan 2012 #36
Stop it, all of you, you fools! You fools! Bruce Wayne Jan 2012 #46
Problem is that white mothers (and fathers) have been arrested for essentially the same thing onenote Jan 2012 #49
It's hard for me to believe any parent wouldn't be arrested for it. redqueen Jan 2012 #50
Where did the names come from? blueamy66 Jan 2012 #52

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
1. As I said in another thread, he should have asked to have gotten his ears pierced.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jan 2012

Then it wouldn't have been an issue at all.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
25. Same here
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jan 2012

I've never known a legitimate artist to do someone younger than 16, for any reason, because the skin changes too much during the teens and will ruin the tattoo.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Whom did she engage to provide the tattoo?
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:49 PM
Jan 2012

One would expect that anyone legitimately engaged in providing tattoos in Georgia would know it to have been illegal.

In most states, minors may consume alcohol at home with parental consent, but one would expect that moonshine would be another story.

 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
4. I agree that a white mother would not have been charged, but
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jan 2012

When a child asks you to let him do something harmful to himself, you say no.

 

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
51. Harmful how?
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jan 2012

Can you please explain the harm in his memorializing his brother in a way he would always have with him?
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
5. It seems like it should have been illegal for the tattoo artist to ink a minor.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:42 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Mom: I'd like to have my 10 year old inked...

Tattoo Artist: No...

End of story, nothing to see here move along please.

Mimosa

(9,131 posts)
17. Agree: no racial issue
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:49 PM
Jan 2012

I've known a couple of young people who contracted hepatitis from tattooes.

This is a serious health issue.

I say NO to tattooing children.

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
19. I have to agree.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jan 2012

It's not reversible like getting ears pierced or as easily reversed. Health issues. Ect. I understand the sentiment on this but there are far better options to remember someone at that age.

 

DeathToTheOil

(1,124 posts)
45. No racial issue?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:53 PM
Jan 2012

How can you be sure? When it comes to parents, certain laws get neglected all the time.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Georgia actually has done so in the past....
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jan 2012

In Louisiana parental consent allows minor tattooing, Georgia and most other States do not.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
7. A poor white woman would be---a wealthy black woman wouldn't be. It's
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:46 PM
Jan 2012

all about money and connections.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
8. My comment posted under the story at the link.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:01 PM
Jan 2012

Too many people here cannot read. The tattoo was done by an amateur, not in a tattoo parlor. Few, here mentioned the couture the mother lives in. That has a bearing with this.
I agree with those that know that if the mother and kid were astute enough to have been born white, there would not be any issue here at all. Oh, the horror to have color in the skin. Get over it people, we are all different in some way. It should no[t] matter!
Nothing was indicated about their family life, whether the mother was employed or not, where they lived, etc., and yet someone said to plant a tree in the backyard? And if there is no back yard for the tenement? Regardless of those wanting to remove the tattoo from the kid, the kid will have the memorial with him everywhere he goes, unlike a tree.
The story only says the tattoo is on his right arm. It does not state where on the arm. Even so, I'm not seeing how this will impact any future employment. Tattoos are main stream now-a-days. Both my kids, girls have tattoos. One is currently in Tau Beta Pi, the engineering honor society. Tattoos didn't stop her.
This woman is being harassed because 1- she is poor. 2- she is not white. 3- She is not a threat to the cops and so they can safely intimidate her. Anyone see the real problem here? It is not the tattoo.


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xmas74

(29,674 posts)
15. I have a problem with two things.
Reply to RC (Reply #8)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:33 PM
Jan 2012

One-it's a ten year old child. In this case the mother should have said "That's nice but that's something you do when you're older." Let the child have time to grow up and decide if they still want one. In eight years he could have walked into any parlor and had it done legally.

Two-it was done by an amateur. I have a real problem with that part. How clean is the person's set up? What kind of environment? If it wasn't up to standards the child could have caught any number of diseases.

I have a couple of tattoos. I don't have a problem with them. I just think that, in the case of a child, there should have been a wait. And I have a huge problem with amateurs buying guns and going solo out of their garage/bedroom/car.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
32. I agree this wasn't optimal. But should the woman have been arrested and charged criminally?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:14 PM
Jan 2012

Is this going to be good for her child?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
34. Yes. She should be arrested and charged criminally. She stood by and watched
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

her kid being tattooed by a non-professional, exposing him to any fuck-all germ sitting on the end of a sharp that was also used to tattoo prisoners....

Yeah--at the very least, that kid's gonna need medical attention.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
21. The link says the police chief stated it "appeared" to be the work of an amateur.
Reply to RC (Reply #8)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:12 PM
Jan 2012

Since the mother isn't cooperating with the investigators, we don't know that it IS the work of an amateur.

Since when is enforcing a law meant to protect minor children harrassment?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
33. I think that under the circumstances, a memorial to a dead brother,
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:17 PM
Jan 2012

it would have been unlikely for a white mother to have been arrested and to be facing criminal charges.

Prosecutors have discretion about which charges they bring. I think most would have been more sympathetic to this woman, given her circumstances -- and I think her race might have something to do with how she was treated.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
37. She can plead that as a defense at her trial. The old "I had a good and sentimental
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jan 2012

reason to break this law," defense.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
14. Good find. I'm baffled as to why the OP decided to inject race into this incident.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:31 PM
Jan 2012

I expect the OP will be retracting very soon.

Or maybe not.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
35. If you're baffled then you haven't been paying attention
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

to reports all over the country of higher rates of pressing criminal charges against black people than white people for similar crimes.

The prosecutors have discretion over who they charge and who they don't, and this has resulted in uneven prosecution rates in many locales.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
12. If my kid was 10? No.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:26 PM
Jan 2012

If my kid was 16? I would definitely have to think about that one, especially it the tat was of their deceased sibiling.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
13. I would ahve said yes, when you are legally allowed to
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jan 2012

Whether 16, 18, or whatever, and I would tell my child I would pay for it, and do something else to remember him by until then.

I think it is very sweet, but 10 is too young, and get a pro to lay down ink. Always.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
26. It's fine on DU to
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jan 2012

demonize all white people and make the assumption that all white people everywhere are racists. I miss "unrec."

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
28. Sad that DU'ers from all races, religions, cultures can't find common ground. How can any government
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jan 2012

hope to succeed when the population at large is so much more divided that we DU'ers?

Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #26)

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
41. Please explain how this white mother managed to demonize all white people?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jan 2012

It's hardly news -- or it shouldn't be here -- that there are uneven prosecution rates affecting different races across the country.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
38. Well, those "some" are wrong. I have no prejudice against white mothers,
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jan 2012

as I am one myself.

Have you ever heard of the crime of "driving while black"? I wouldn't be surprised if the same principal applied here. That doesn't make me racist or bigoted.

Mimosa

(9,131 posts)
18. In GA a white mother probably would get in trouble over this.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jan 2012

I live here, grew up here. Race comes into about everything. But I doubt race entered this one.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
22. +1. When did child abuse become a racial issue?
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:12 AM - Edit history (1)

Strange post-and-run here.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. Oh--when your 10-year old kid shows up to school with a jailhouse tat, the cops are getting called.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jan 2012

I don't care what your color is.

I don't know if you saw the tattoo on the news clip, but that was certainly NOT done in a parlor, by a professional. ANY CHILD who showed up with that hot mess on his arm would get a call made.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
27. I would have had no trouble saying no to a request like that frrom a 10-year-old.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jan 2012

I'd say the same thing either of my parents would have said to me: "When you turn 18, you can get any kind of tattoo you want."

Other than that, this topic appears to be race-baiting.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
36. And she didn't say to the kid
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jan 2012

"You're 10, and it's going to look like ass when you're 18?"

Saying NO is a part of being a PARENT.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
46. Stop it, all of you, you fools! You fools!
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jan 2012

You're all buying into the same sweeping racial generalizations that keep our fair community divided--needlessly divided, I might add. Please think before you add ugliness to the Mulitverse. Everytime, like some hack comedian, you say "White people are this" or "Black people are that," you only play further into the conniving hands of Kaptain Klanman.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
49. Problem is that white mothers (and fathers) have been arrested for essentially the same thing
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:50 PM
Jan 2012

so it really shouldn't be hard to believe that they would have been, even if its also possible that they wouldn't have been.

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