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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsunfuckingbelievable!? Top Conservative Publication: Shooting Occurred Because Women Ran The School??
Seriously???Victoria Soto, 27-year-old teacher killed while protecting her students.
If there were fewer women and more male aggression in Sandy Hook Elementary School, the massacre there never would have taken place, according to a contribution to a leading conservative magazine.
National Review, whose in-house editorial suggested Newtown was the price of the Second Amendment, published a piece on Wednesday from anti-feminist Charlotte Allen suggesting the reason the shooter was able to kill so many students was because Newtown was a feminized setting:
There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K6 school), all the personnel the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the reading specialist were female. There didnt even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanzas knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the schools public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.
more at Think Progress
Mass
(27,315 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)aren't immune to bullets. My God.
The stupid. I can't handle it.
SharonAnn
(13,776 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)This has to be one of the ten stupidest things any human being has said since the dawn of time.
Something stupider will be said by a different repig tomorrow.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)But I suppose for someone completely inculcated in that sort of gender role stereotyping, it makes a certain sick sense...
deutsey
(20,166 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)given for the most whacked out attention whoring opinion pieces imaginable.
flakey_foont
(3,338 posts)this piece is so disrespectful, so insensitive...
do these people have no shame? no basic human decency??
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)"don't mess with a guy who played high school football" - Al Bundy
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)that one of these days we'll finally reach Peak Stupid.
But they keep proving me wrong.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Damn, I miss Keith Olbermann.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Feel safer when a woman is watching their child over a male. How many babysitters were male in your household? Not counting brothers who had to watch you. Did you need the manliness of a male to protect your kids while you and your wife go out to a movie and dinner.
Feminized my ass. Who does a child cry first for almost 100% of the time. MOMMY. And I don't even have kids. Most schools have women for teachers.
I wonder if this woman would drop her 2 year old off at an all male pre-school, and not have to think twice about it.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)a sane discussion of this tragedy is very likely to lead to gun control, and they can't risk that. This stupidity is deliberate.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)Which was like 50 years ago, but admittedly awesome. This, however, is disgusting. Sexist bullshit. I'm going to go write an angry email that will be ignored.
mainer
(12,022 posts)No manly men in that theater, no sirree.
Same with Fort Hood. No manly men anywhere!
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)What's scary is that more people are subscribing to this rag every year.
Please proceed
(59 posts)K through 4th grade.
Male janitor ran through the school alerting everyone to the threat.
Female teachers and staff were heroic and saved lives.
This idiot can't even get the facts straight, someone is supposed to think she has a valid point?
Only a moron would read that crap and believe it, I guess the readers of that publication are morons.
dsc
(52,162 posts)the school was k through 4 not k through 6.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)there are plenty of young children all over the nation who need a stable adult male in their lives.
In a situation such as Sandy Hook, however, I suspect it would only have resulted in a male name listed among the dead. Probably alongside those of the huskier 12-year-olds.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)wimpy in the face of a hail of bullets, huh? I'm sure men would have done MUCH better as they were ambushed and shot to death...
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The principal and another office staffer died while trying to stop an armed gunman. I don't see how the women at the school could be any more heroic. Charlotte Allen is the biggest horse's ass.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)The bravest people I ever heard of in my life. Charging into gunfire,shielding children from bullets, keeping 15 children calm and quiet while a gunman was raging in the next room.
Mary Ann Murphy; she hugged her autistic student Dylan while they both took bullets.
How nice that the author could bring herself to say that Principal Hochsprung "seemed" to have performed bravely. She told her colleagues to go hide while she confronted the killer, all 5'2" of her. They said afterward that they owe their lives to her.
I don't know, disgust isn't even the word.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)The ignorance is astounding.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)thanks!
Separation
(1,975 posts)That the Iranians are claiming that this was the work of Israeli Mossad hit squads....
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Guessed the wrong arch conservative anti feminist.
Also, the janitor was there, and I believe he was an adult male, and one who acted as a "Paul Revere." Or rather, a Sybil Ludington.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Not intentionally, and of course in classic conservative-confusionist fashion she's got the facts exactly reversed.
Prima facie, women and children were the target. This may have primarily been a femicide.
livefromsac
(6 posts)Because a school full of foolball teachers just aint ridiculous enough
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Is this even true?
JHB
(37,160 posts)For someone who claims to have pored over the building layout and timeline, she seems to have missed that large hole in her theory.
But then, The National Review is not in the fact business. It's in the "catapult the propaganda" sector.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Does anyone else think they watch too much Walker Texas Ranger?
REP
(21,691 posts)At least twice as much as it caused me just to read the excerpts.
mainer
(12,022 posts)Let's not even mention Virginia Tech.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that took two bullets stopping that creep. I don't know what she thinks bravery is, but there is nothing helplessly passive about charging a gunman so that others can live, and that's exactly what that principal did. She had balls of steel. A man couldn't have stopped those bullets with his body any better than she did.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)that day.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Not even mental illness -- it's the goddamn public health issues of guns and the culture of death that permeates our society.
More and more, it becomes clear that the greatest threat to our nation is the right wing -- with its gun fetishists, hyper religious zealots, anti-progress goons, cheap-labor barons, etc.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)If that isn't bravery, I don't know what is. Helpless passivity? I'll tell you what Sandy Hook might have been like if there were some male teachers and some huskier boys. They'd be dead right along side of the women, and she would probably be concocting some other dumb story to push her agenda.
The most dangerous and brave person can be a woman protecting children. No amount of testosterone can stop a bullet. Charlotte Allen is clearly one of the dumbest women on the planet. I'd like to see her husband or sons, if she has any of them, stop a bullet because they have a penis. Actually, no, I wouldn't because I'm a better person that she is. What a horse's ass.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)They do it deliberately.