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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:04 PM Dec 2012

' A feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm' (this woman is a loon)



CHARLOTTE ALLEN
Like most people, I’ve been thinking and thinking about the Sandy Hook massacre. I’ve even pored over a map of the school and its killing sites — and studied a timeline of the incident, which appears to have unfolded over about 20 minutes. I have three observations:

There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms.

But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

People, even unarmed people, need to fight back against criminals — because usually, no one else will. It took the police 20 minutes to arrive at Sandy Hook. By the time they got there, it was over. Cops and everybody else encourage civilians not to try to defend themselves when they are criminally assaulted. This is stupid advice. There are things you can do. Run is one of them, because most shooters can’t hit a moving target. The other, if you are in a confined space, is throw things at the killer, or try a tackle. Remember United Flight 93 on 9/11. It was a “flight of heroes” because a bunch of guys on that plane did what they could with what they had. They probably prevented the destruction of the White House or the Capitol.

Parents of sick children need to be realistic about them. I know at least two sets of fine and devoted parents who have had the misfortune to raise sons who were troubled for genetic reasons beyond anyone’s control. Either of those boys could have been an Adam Lanza. You simply can’t give a non-working, non-school-enrolled 20-year-old man free range of your home, much less your cache of weapons. You have to set boundaries. You have to say, “You can’t live here anymore — you’re an adult, and it’s time for you to be a man. We’ll give you all the support you need, but we won’t be enablers.” Unfortunately, the idea of being an “adult” and a “man” once one has reached physical maturity seems to have faded out of our coddling culture.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335996/newtown-answers-nro-symposium#

Lady, when somebody has a Bushmaster ready to go and knows how to use it, it doesn't matter how any men are on campus.
They would have met the same appalling fate.

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' A feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm' (this woman is a loon) (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 OP
So how do you explain The 2009 Ft. Hood military base shooting rustydog Dec 2012 #1
Eeeewwwwww. aquart Dec 2012 #2
Tomorrow she will post an article saying that teachers SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #3
More men and.more ARMED females HockeyMom Dec 2012 #4
are tj_crackersnatch Dec 2012 #5
Ok, let's extrapolate... FLyellowdog Dec 2012 #6
How about Columbine, Charlotte? duffyduff Dec 2012 #7
Gobsmacking insane! nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #8
Soto and the principal were extremely heroic Amak8 Dec 2012 #9
Charlotte would crap her pants in that situation Skittles Dec 2012 #10
She's a lady who hates women Warpy Dec 2012 #11
Severely ill, disabled children should be told to "just be a man?' Care Acutely Dec 2012 #12
Thinking that women are "helpless" and "passive" is very Victorian of her. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #13
She and Christina Hoff-Sommers are Anti Feminists obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #14

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
1. So how do you explain The 2009 Ft. Hood military base shooting
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:07 PM
Dec 2012

lots ofmen were there on that day...shooting still occurred.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
3. Tomorrow she will post an article saying that teachers
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:10 PM
Dec 2012

are ruining this country with their unions and their summer vacations and they are just leeching off society and all schools should be privately funded.

Then the next day she will post another article wondering why there were no male teachers at the school.

With the rhetoric they have been spewing at the NR they are lucky there were any teachers there at all..

Bat-shit crazy...

tj_crackersnatch

(82 posts)
5. are
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:16 PM
Dec 2012

Shopping malls, movie theatres and political rallies "feminized" too? This This woman is an idiot and does more harm than good with her ridiculous assertions.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
6. Ok, let's extrapolate...
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:18 PM
Dec 2012

past history shows us that the majority of teachers are female ...
and that the majority of major breadwinners have not been female...
and that the majority of male breadwinners aren't able to support a family on a teacher's salary...
so the majority of males do not enter the field of education...
leaving the field wide open for females...
who may or may not be a second income provider...
but whose salaries are basically determined by local school board governments....
which are usually dominated by males...
who are the majority of mass-murderers in this country.

This is my BS post for the day. And speaking of BS, so is the National Review's article.

Idiots.




 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
7. How about Columbine, Charlotte?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:19 PM
Dec 2012

Lots of men worked there, but that didn't stop the killers from doing their dirty deeds.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
11. She's a lady who hates women
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:31 PM
Dec 2012

and always writes this shit, wanting Daddy to come save her from life.

Just pat her on the pointed little head and move on.

The comments, though are pure gold.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
12. Severely ill, disabled children should be told to "just be a man?'
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

Planet stupid, we have found your Queen. Please come to collect her forthwith.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
13. Thinking that women are "helpless" and "passive" is very Victorian of her.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:59 PM
Dec 2012

I suspect she is projecting, and that it is HER who is helpless and passive. She just resents any women who aren't, like the women at the school who died saving lives.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
14. She and Christina Hoff-Sommers are Anti Feminists
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:04 PM
Dec 2012

And Right Wingers, and darlings of the MRA and other RW movements. I have seen the latter used, quite a few times, as a source on here.

They both suck.

And, this hit piece is NO DIFFERENT than Westboro picketing at the funerals today. None.

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