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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:53 PM Jul 2025

US isn't 'safe for tourists' and calls to cancel the Olympics


Patricia Arquette says US isn't 'safe for tourists' and calls to cancel the Olympics

Raider (@iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social) 2025-07-06T05:57:42.098Z
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US isn't 'safe for tourists' and calls to cancel the Olympics (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Jul 2025 OP
She's not wrong Bettie Jul 2025 #1
I'm not even sure that calls for boycotts are going to be necessary . . . hatrack Jul 2025 #9
Perfect potential replacement awaits ;) Justice matters. Jul 2025 #72
No ICEholes here ;) Justice matters. Jul 2025 #78
They should move them to MONTREAL (with a new modern roof). Justice matters. Jul 2025 #70
Not sure I understand why she is an expert on olympic game safety???? pbmus Jul 2025 #2
Her comments aren't about the safety of the games Arazi Jul 2025 #3
As a US citizen slightlv Jul 2025 #19
Nope, I don't feel safe either. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #38
OldBaldy, I empathize. slightlv Jul 2025 #49
My prayers are now that... oldsoldierfadingfast Jul 2025 #74
Yeah, agreed. I'd like to see it happen while I still have a voice to sing (however out of key!) slightlv Jul 2025 #75
I forgot to mention that I am Pagan as well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #82
Hail and Well Met, Friend! :) slightlv Jul 2025 #86
Ahh... Hecate. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #88
You speaking of Brimo, ignited a memory of something I'd found slightlv Jul 2025 #91
Very nice! OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #93
As a gay Hispanic male sdfernando Jul 2025 #80
I don't blame you. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #87
In complete agreement with you HappyH Jul 2025 #53
It isn't about the safety of the games but those coming to it Mr.WeRP Jul 2025 #4
You don't need to be a "expert on olympic game safety" to witness what's going on. PSPS Jul 2025 #7
I'm sorry, did you not see... Fla_Democrat Jul 2025 #73
Stick with acting. Seriously. n/t valleyrogue Jul 2025 #5
She has always been a vocal KT2000 Jul 2025 #10
Or not ..... live love laugh Jul 2025 #14
Why? I don't stick to sys admining. nt Gore1FL Jul 2025 #16
Do you disagree with her? ShazzieB Jul 2025 #17
No. Patricia Arquette has a right to Cha Jul 2025 #21
That is exactly what Fox News say when actors say something they don't like. Doodley Jul 2025 #30
Why would she not be entitled to say her opinion like anyone else? Wingus Dingus Jul 2025 #41
You may be in the wrong place. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #46
What? She can't voice her views because she's an actress. Something a MAGA cult member would say. Gimpyknee Jul 2025 #64
Really? La Urraca Jul 2025 #68
She has EVERY RIGHT to speak out. Moreover, as an actor of renown, her voice niyad Jul 2025 #83
Why? Do celebrities not have a right to speak out? fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #90
Maybe they should say white tourists only KT2000 Jul 2025 #6
Many white tourists, academics and business people have been detained Arazi Jul 2025 #13
So has this bdamomma Jul 2025 #32
A Brit-born friend of mine is a naturalized citizen and says he feels on edge, now. nt allegorical oracle Jul 2025 #55
I would love to see a huge boycott from other countries. ananda Jul 2025 #8
That just hurts LA and California newdeal2 Jul 2025 #12
And many of the larger companies that operate more broadly. cab67 Jul 2025 #56
Crimes bdamomma Jul 2025 #33
Exactly what Putin ordered... pbmus Jul 2025 #11
"Patricia Arquette says" writerJT Jul 2025 #15
Athletes from Trump travel-banned countries... Sunlight Jul 2025 #18
Welcome to DU, Sunlight! calimary Jul 2025 #28
True or False? littlemissmartypants Jul 2025 #20
Will bdamomma Jul 2025 #34
Eventually. travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #48
They don't have to come for our guns. Our property and bank accts are probably more attractive to them. 58Sunliner Jul 2025 #58
Our test of fire comes on Friday. DFW Jul 2025 #22
Be safe. AllyCat Jul 2025 #24
Yes bdamomma Jul 2025 #35
We'll do our best, thanks! DFW Jul 2025 #44
I've been detained almost every time I've flown GenThePerservering Jul 2025 #62
Why? JoseBalow Jul 2025 #66
Gods, be careful, DFW. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #40
Tell me about it! DFW Jul 2025 #45
This is so insane and SO self defeating for our country. I truly think that Trump is insane at this point, his Caligula CTyankee Jul 2025 #50
I'm worried about their use of social media accounts and how they can use that info. erronis Jul 2025 #57
I'm quite sure they have. My "rap sheet" must be a mile long by now. DFW Jul 2025 #63
As always, thanks for the incredible background, personal details and opinions. Amazing. erronis Jul 2025 #89
Ha ha! Right you are. DFW Jul 2025 #92
Personally, I have no use for any Olympics Bluetus Jul 2025 #23
The Olympics are scheduled for July 14 - July 30, 2028. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #27
Naaaah. Trump's spite gene is too atrong Bluetus Jul 2025 #42
To make this happen, a significant pressure campaign needs to be started immediately Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #25
I think this HAS to happen. ICE is going to go nuts! C Moon Jul 2025 #26
Oh hell, in 3 years most of the people in this shithole country will probably be dead, have left or been deported so ImNotGod Jul 2025 #29
don't give bdamomma Jul 2025 #36
We are already in an international travel and international tourism recession. Many people no longer want Doodley Jul 2025 #31
And move the World Cup finals to Canada. no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #37
I agree with her. The world needs to shun us until we get our shit together. Wingus Dingus Jul 2025 #39
Don't worry! New travel bans allow athletes, coaches and immediate family into Olympics, World Cup, etc. . . hatrack Jul 2025 #43
Olympic Boycotts the_liberal_grandpa Jul 2025 #47
It is not safe for people to travel to the US LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #51
NRA will have an announcement soon. Emile Jul 2025 #52
It's going to be fine, Patricia. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #54
I don't want them here with that POS in office finding ways to make it about him themaguffin Jul 2025 #59
Good! I'm glad someone is speaking out. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #60
The 2026 Olympics is in Italy milestogo Jul 2025 #61
2028 summer olympics in L.A. 2026 winter olympics Italy niyad Jul 2025 #85
Wouldn't that be a great wakeup call!? bif Jul 2025 #65
AND the World Soccer game. MLWR Jul 2025 #67
We need the Olympics! flamingdem Jul 2025 #69
They can hold the Olympics at the new White House parking lot. twodogsbarking Jul 2025 #71
I've been calling for CANCEL since the first BidenRocks Jul 2025 #76
Good for her!!! claudette Jul 2025 #77
World Cup needs to be moved or cancelled. TexLaProgressive Jul 2025 #79
The US is most definitely not a safe space for anyone from another country. The US should not be allowed to sponsor an Martin68 Jul 2025 #81
We don't deserve to host anything right now mdbl Jul 2025 #84

Bettie

(19,324 posts)
1. She's not wrong
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:14 PM
Jul 2025

imagine how many athletes they won't even let enter the country, simply because of the color of their skin.

hatrack

(64,307 posts)
9. I'm not even sure that calls for boycotts are going to be necessary . . .
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jul 2025

Given another three years of this shit, and the accelerating pace of governmental and societal collapse we've seen after not even six months of King Klown Klueless, I seriously doubt that even the athletes are going to want to come here.

Justice matters.

(9,447 posts)
72. Perfect potential replacement awaits ;)
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jul 2025


A new $879 million roof is being installed (will be ready in 2028).

Beautiful "belvedere" up and around the rooftop (long walk to complete the big O sightseeing).

Justice matters.

(9,447 posts)
70. They should move them to MONTREAL (with a new modern roof).
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 06:23 PM
Jul 2025


Montreal's Olympic Stadium roof is getting a $870M replacement

A new location for bicycles competitions would have to be built because the original one has been modified to host for exotic animals and plants (called the BioDome).

All the other locations are still operational except for the Montreal Forum, now a cinema and restaurants upgraded building, but the NHL Canadiens venue is available as a replacement.

Besides... effing criminal ICEholes are nowhere to be seen around the city...

Arazi

(8,727 posts)
3. Her comments aren't about the safety of the games
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jul 2025

It’s a comment on the actions of CBP and ICE that are maliciously targeting tourists, legal residents, immigrants and visitors to the US.

Anyone who isn’t a US citizen isn’t safe here, many tourists and visitors are being detained just trying to get into the country. The detention and deportation stories are horrific.

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
19. As a US citizen
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:14 PM
Jul 2025

Albeit a dyed in the wool democrat, and moreover on the progressive side of that equation I don't feel safe either.

Patricia is a citizen, I believe. Her opinion after seeing the reprehensible acts officials and maga citizens both have performed, I believe she is worthy of her opinion. The fact she and her family are a celeb dynasty only gives her media attention neither you nor I can get. More power to anyone who can speak and be heard in these times. And I agree with her. The Olympics should be pulled. It would not be without precedent, and in the same fashion as the other times I'm thinking of. Tourists should not step foot in our country nor spend even a penny until the US grows up enough to join civilization again.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,290 posts)
38. Nope, I don't feel safe either.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:42 AM
Jul 2025

But, as a gay male who was born and raised in the south, I am used to feeling unsafe.

I am more than tired of it, but I am used to it.

But, you are correct. I don't feel safe with that orange gibbon and his band of cronies in Washington.

More than usual, I might add.

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
49. OldBaldy, I empathize.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:46 AM
Jul 2025

I'm Pagan, ask me if I feel safe to practice my religion as the Xtians in this country practice theirs, especially in this region. Last year, I lost my best friend, a gay male who had stood with me as a divine couple during our worship. Our group is based more on energies than outward appearances, and so we often stood at the altar in a "mixed up" union as some who visited us declared. But I've always had more of what we considered male attributes... quick decisions to issues and problems, overt assertiveness, not exactly maternal in nature (unless it was to our critter friends)... Jim, OTOH, was the gentlest of souls I'd ever met; nurturing, balancing, and gods, how I miss him in my life.

Between my spiritual path and the fact I'm a woman... and don't exactly exude that "feminism" of submissiveness so deemed to be our overriding trait, I'm trying to stay in the background as much as possible now. But things are coming to a head, both out there in the world and within me. Something has to break. We're building to a peak of action; I just don't know what form that action will take. That silly little optimist that still holds a piece of my heart, tells me it'll be people finally making the magas and the other haters to descend back into the holes they once hid within. That good can overcome evil. But then, there are those other days.... (sigh)

74. My prayers are now that...
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:15 PM
Jul 2025

we will all survive the present BS long enough to be able to stand up and once again and sing, "Happy Days Are Here, Again!"
And that it will come sooner; rather than, later.

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
75. Yeah, agreed. I'd like to see it happen while I still have a voice to sing (however out of key!)
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:17 PM
Jul 2025

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
91. You speaking of Brimo, ignited a memory of something I'd found
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jul 2025

on Reddit once upon a time and saved, I found it so beautiful. I offer it to you, a prayer as appropriate to these times. It's a far tread down the path I started on when I was in my late teens...

O the fiercest!

Magnanimous, all-transcending Lady of Terrifying Countenance
In this moment of divine inspiration, under the permeating glow of blessed Mousai
I call upon Your ancient name, the most ferocious one:

Hekate Brimo! Hekate Brimo! Brimo! Brimo! Fiery Brimo!

O roaring conqueror of the abyss, the most manifested one, ten-headed Daughter of Zeus Areios
Your legs are those of the wolf ready to strike down its prey
Yet Your prey is the stagnant force of Darkness itself
Even as You are in Your holy rage wise men never call You "the Beast"
For You are Apotropaios, the reasonable
And You are Kratais, ruthless but wise
And You are the ungirt Daughter of Perses, whom Hesiod profound honored himself

O ravaging Brimo, I prostrate before You
But in adoration of You and in reverence for You
Hekate Brimo, the burning, the most visible, the invisible, without belt
Hear me through the crackling of Your Holy Fires
With these offerings which I give to You release me from apathy, may it burn and smoulder like howling Klythios did
Release me from the infectious ignorance, unspool the serpentine thread of the cunning Moirai, O Arkyia

You are the source, the bridge, the wide outfall
You complete what is incomplete
You lay out the road for His wisdom, eternal and omnipotent
You are celestial and You are magmatic
You are the beginning, the end and the in-between
You alone rule all

IAO Hekate Brimo!
IAO, Perseia!

OldBaldy1701E

(10,290 posts)
93. Very nice!
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:07 AM
Jul 2025

I will have to do the same and send this to a friend who, I am sure, would love it.

Thanks!

Well Met and Blessed Be!

sdfernando

(6,026 posts)
80. As a gay Hispanic male
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:35 PM
Jul 2025

Raised in a military family and born in Germany I don’t feel one bit safe any longer. I could be one of those naturalized citizens that he want to revoke citizenship from.

I’m working as hard and as fast as I can to get out of the U.S!

OldBaldy1701E

(10,290 posts)
87. I don't blame you.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 06:31 AM
Jul 2025

But, I am not going anywhere.

If they want me, they need to come and get me. They won't like what they find.

HappyH

(183 posts)
53. In complete agreement with you
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jul 2025

I also think the World Cup should find a new venue for games scheduled in the US. With this administration, US tourism should be at North Korean levels.

 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
4. It isn't about the safety of the games but those coming to it
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:31 PM
Jul 2025

Tourists with valid visas and visitor requirements have been detained, searched and deported by ICE. Plenty of stories about this and the tourism industry in the US is crashing.

PSPS

(15,223 posts)
7. You don't need to be a "expert on olympic game safety" to witness what's going on.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:32 PM
Jul 2025

Not a day goes by that some foreign athlete invited to the US is blocked, held in a detention center, and sent back.

KT2000

(21,981 posts)
10. She has always been a vocal
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:35 PM
Jul 2025

liberal. She is right about the Olympics. Some countries already have travel advisories for their citizens concerning the US. It is not safe for noncitizens.

ShazzieB

(22,240 posts)
17. Do you disagree with her?
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:06 PM
Jul 2025

I think she's absolutely right about the U.S. being an unsafe place for people from other countries to visit. The World Cup should not be held here while Schlump is in power, and neither should the Olympics.

Her line of work is completely beside the point.

Cha

(317,138 posts)
21. No. Patricia Arquette has a right to
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:30 PM
Jul 2025

Speak out for the Dangers of foreign citizens coming to this country like any of us do.

Traitor has made this a Hellscape and I'm grateful for anyone who calls it out.

 

Gimpyknee

(1,025 posts)
64. What? She can't voice her views because she's an actress. Something a MAGA cult member would say.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 04:33 PM
Jul 2025

La Urraca

(14 posts)
68. Really?
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 05:20 PM
Jul 2025

She is not entitled to voice her opinion?
I personally appreciate it when someone who has the ability to speak out and be heard, does so.
The only voice I have , is to post online and to physically protest. So in my opinion, it is useful to hear such people use their celebrity constructively.
Why do you think she should not?

niyad

(129,802 posts)
83. She has EVERY RIGHT to speak out. Moreover, as an actor of renown, her voice
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jul 2025

may be heard more easily than others, which can only help. Why on earth would you want to silence someone who is in our side?


Let's see. Some in this board are criticizing bob dylan for NOT speaking up to their satisfaction.. and now another artist is being criticized FOR speaking up. I am getting a migraine.



fujiyamasan

(1,256 posts)
90. Why? Do celebrities not have a right to speak out?
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jul 2025

Besides, in this case she’s absolutely right. No one in their right mind should visit this country as long as this administration is in power.

At this point it’s clear ICE is looking for any minor excuse it can find to lock up people.

KT2000

(21,981 posts)
6. Maybe they should say white tourists only
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:32 PM
Jul 2025

but that is if they don't have anything on their phone that ridicules the government.

Arazi

(8,727 posts)
13. Many white tourists, academics and business people have been detained
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:48 PM
Jul 2025

And deported. One of them was deported solely because he had a mocking picture of JD Vance with a giant head on his phone.

From Canada, New Zealand, Germany, Australia etc

Nobody’s safe.

ananda

(34,497 posts)
8. I would love to see a huge boycott from other countries.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jul 2025

I want to see real consequences for every stupid Republican
policy

cab67

(3,650 posts)
56. And many of the larger companies that operate more broadly.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:17 PM
Jul 2025

Hotel chains, airlines, makers of soft drinks and major beer brands, and so on.

I agree that this will hit LA more strongly than anywhere else, but it will be felt nationwide.

And it'll be a bigger blow to JInglesphincter's ego than losing the 2020 election. I can't imagine a bigger, and more needed, slap in the face to anyone who thinks the world somehow respects us more when he's president.

bdamomma

(69,176 posts)
33. Crimes
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 04:27 AM
Jul 2025

against humanity. Add those who lost their lives from the Texas floods to the Covid count,

writerJT

(467 posts)
15. "Patricia Arquette says"
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:54 PM
Jul 2025

Why was “Patricia Arquette says” omitted from the title of your post?

Sunlight

(12 posts)
18. Athletes from Trump travel-banned countries...
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:13 PM
Jul 2025

... won't be allowed to participate. So far, 19 countries are either travel-banned or limited to restricted visas, and athletes from another 36 countries could face travel restrictions.

The IOC must move the games to another country and do so now, or they'll be presiding over a new version of Berlin.

calimary

(89,141 posts)
28. Welcome to DU, Sunlight!
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:17 PM
Jul 2025

I really feel for all the athletes. Many of them have spent their whole young lives training for events like these, in which they can build their own spotlight to stand in. It's such hard work. Heck, I've participated (as a scores-recording official) in these competitions, and even the ones where high school students give their all for a high school-level inter-school competition. They work like dogs! Sometimes on a daily basis. Actually, MOSTLY on a daily basis. And some of them aspire to the Olympics or other international competition where they can build a higher profile reputation. Sometimes there's real money in it.

58Sunliner

(6,273 posts)
58. They don't have to come for our guns. Our property and bank accts are probably more attractive to them.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jul 2025

They don't even need to step foot on your doorstep.

DFW

(59,771 posts)
22. Our test of fire comes on Friday.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:42 PM
Jul 2025

We are flying to the USA. We will be landing at an airport where we haven’t had a problem. Actually, my wife has never had a problem except in Atlanta. The CBP guy, himself an immigrant, detained her because he said that her fingerprints didn’t match the ones they had on file. Since we knew that she had not had her fingers switched since the last time she was in the USA, the CBP guy was full of shit, but he had her detained for an hour. CBP’s superior officers apologized an hour later, and said she was free to go.

We have no reason to think they will detain a 73 year old German visitor with a return ticket, and who is married to a US citizen who is traveling with her. However, it seems to us that many, if not most, of the people detained recently were detained unjustly, so there doesn’t necessarily need to be a legitimate reason to do it. We’ll know by Friday evening.

DFW

(59,771 posts)
44. We'll do our best, thanks!
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:24 AM
Jul 2025

We will never ever again take American Airlines, so our safety and that of our luggage should get a boost there. As for the US CPB guys, that's pretty much a crap shoot. If it's someone who has done the job for years and knows what he/she is doing, their screen will show that we always come to the States about this time of year, and stay between 5 and 8 weeks, and as long as my wife's ESTA is still valid (it is until next year), we should sail through.

When I flew over in April, since I was by myself, I went into the line for US citizens. Just before me, there were three people traveling together. two of them appeared to speak no English, as the third one seemed to be translating for them. The CPB guy was clearly annoyed, he made a gesture to me to not approach, and I made a "no problem" gesture back. It took a few minutes, but another CPB guy arrived to cart the three people away. I just waited, and he seemed to appreciate my lack of hurry. I did the retina scan thing, and he just asked if I had any food. I said, no, I did this too often to make that mistake. He just smiled, said, welcome home, and waved me on.

My wife, usually the epitome of composure and grace, does not like to be kept waiting in line, and I sometimes have to talk her down. She is used to dealing with uncaring German bureaucrats who treat non-bureaucrats as irritants they are forced to deal with against their will. I remind her that she has to keep cool with people that have the power to shove her right back on the plane she came in on. She usually gets it. One time, she was visiting a girlfriend who lives in Vermont on the Canadian border. They just walked across. On the way back, she was checked by some idiot CBP guy who couldn't find her entry stamp from a month before. He only saw one from the past May, when we were in Washington for my nephew's college graduation. He asked when she was going home, and calculated (from the May stamp, not the July stamp that he missed) that she was overstaying her 90 days visa-free by one day. Rather than point out his incompetence, she went into her ignorant foreigner mode, and said, Oh, you are so right! I gave you the date of my arrival, but as you know, flights from here to Europe are overnight, so they leave the day before. He said, that's better, and let her in.

Being safe these days starts with being careful, and we certainly intend to be that. There are always a few hotheads in every plane, and we are perfectly content to let them draw all the negative attention to themselves, meanwhile being nice and docile, ourselves. Being a southerner, I can, if I need to, convincingly put on the "yes, sir" accent of a former drill sergeant, and that usually does it.

Once, in Boston, after the security check, when my beard was browner and I was leaner, some TSA guy came up to me and told me I had "been randomly designated for a further security check." Random, my ass, but whatever. He was expecting some anger or frustration on my part. Instead, I went into my former southern drill sergeant mode, acted as if the whole thing had been my idea in the first place, and said, "alright, sir, let's get it done!" He was so unprepared for that reaction, that he ran a hand up one of my legs, said thank you, and got lost. The "random further security check" lasted about two and a half seconds. I don't look the part, and that is something I can't change, but I can sound the part, and that is usually enough. After all, in Boston, they just KNOW what Southerners are supposed to sound like, don't they?

GenThePerservering

(3,164 posts)
62. I've been detained almost every time I've flown
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jul 2025

searched (one time I was searched four times between Seattle and Melbourne), almost been refused entry into two countries, taken 'downstairs' at Heathrow and checked for bomb materials, then sequestered from other passengers, luggage searched, questioned...and this has gone on since 9/11, though has gotten worse bit by bit.

I have nothing to prove save for my citizenship - I just cooperate. One agent said "This has happened to you before?" As I wearily went through the proper motions for wand searching, basically before they even asked. I just nodded.

DFW

(59,771 posts)
45. Tell me about it!
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:35 AM
Jul 2025

We have some non-citizens working (legally) in our head office in Dallas, and they only leave reluctantly, when work requires. We have one South African citizen who is married to a Korean citizen. I think they both have green cards, but we have seen to what extent that is respected these days (i.e. not at all). He had to go help us out with something at our Hong Kong office, and he was nervous as hell about being let back in. However, I heard nothing in the way of a problem, so I have to assume all went normally.

CTyankee

(67,818 posts)
50. This is so insane and SO self defeating for our country. I truly think that Trump is insane at this point, his Caligula
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:10 PM
Jul 2025

moment.

erronis

(22,761 posts)
57. I'm worried about their use of social media accounts and how they can use that info.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jul 2025

Now that Palantir and all the other vultures are snarfing our private communications as well as all the records gathered by the DOGGie boys (Musk's group), finding unflattering comments about someone may set them off.

DFW

(59,771 posts)
63. I'm quite sure they have. My "rap sheet" must be a mile long by now.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 04:29 PM
Jul 2025

But that has been the case for a quarter century, now, ever since I got my first computer.

Like Europe's socialist regimes, I think that they, too will drown in their sea of information. The socialist countries, notably the relatively compact "German Democratic Republic," informally known as East Germany, needed all the storage space they could grab just to house the files on their citizens. The more oppressive they got, the more their people became "enemies of the state," and the greater their piles of files got. When socialism collapsed, and the people were allowed to see the files the regime kept on them, they were astonished to see the immense amount information that had been collected on every one of them. Many were appalled at seeing how many "IM" (inoffizielle Mitarbeiter--unofficial collaborators) had been collecting information on their every move, every utterance, every friendship made. The people informing the government on them were friends, neighbors, even relatives. It was all in the files. On our way to becoming the Soviet States of America, Stephen Miller and friends have only to follow their socialist role models of recent history. From Soviet-style military parades to mountains of information on private citizens gathered for the sole purpose of harassing, following, and, ultimately arresting or expelling uncomfortable citizens. The SED (Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschlands) regime had their own word for expulsion: "Ausbürgern." Sort a "de-naturalization."

For the East Germans, it was easy, since there was a West Germany for them to send their own uncomfortable citizens to. For a while, the East Germans even had their very own resident American rock star/actor, Dean Reed. He died mysteriously at about age 48, when he drowned after making noises of maybe returning to the USA. He was living a relatively luxurious life in East Germany (by local standards, anyway), as the regime loved his propaganda value. It would not have done to have him to give it all up to return to the USA. He should have kept his mouth shut for three more years. By then, the regime had collapsed, and he would have been free to do what he wanted, and--better yet--seen all the dossiers his "friends" had amassed on him.

Some former East Germans made a film about artistic dissidents and their Government stalkers called "Das Leben der Anderen," or "The Lives of Others." It was SO well made that it got an Oscar in the USA, and deservedly so. All the major roles were played by actors from the former East Germany, and they were depicted to perfection.

We will have digitized many of our files, but I'm betting the efficiency is still less than optimal. With the number of Americans opposed to the current regime, they would practically need to enlist the other half of the country to keep an eye on us all.

Final note--I am in Sprout City for the day (aka Brussels), heading down to France tomorrow one last time before heading over to Boss Town. One of my Belgian colleagues told me of a visit to the USA by his sister and her husband, who is Greek. He said that when they arrived, they were interrogated for 45 minutes, getting asked the same stupid questions many times in a row, and had their pockets and hand luggage taken apart in separate interrogation rooms. This is exactly the same thing the East Germans would do to me on occasion when returning to West Berlin from East Berlin. I was the only one in the room without a uniform, a gun, or the right to stand up without permission. The first time, it was a little intimidating. The second and third times, I just let them have their fun. It was just control and harassment for the sake of control and harassment. "WE are in charge here!" OK, I wouldn't think of disputing it. And after 45 minutes, they let me go and moved on to their next victim. A pointless power play by a pointless regime. But as long as the Trumpanzees are in power, no one from the family of my Belgian colleague (including him) intends on ever setting foot in the United States again--not smart on our part, as our country could use the money.

erronis

(22,761 posts)
89. As always, thanks for the incredible background, personal details and opinions. Amazing.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jul 2025

Have you written another book, or considering one? A set of essays/observations would be very interesting - at least to this US-bound reader. Of course you have so much free time on your hands....

DFW

(59,771 posts)
92. Ha ha! Right you are.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:52 PM
Jul 2025

I’m just sittin’ on the banks of the Rhein, wastin’ time.

I have less free time than Trump has empathy.

Bluetus

(2,341 posts)
23. Personally, I have no use for any Olympics
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:45 PM
Jul 2025

It is a thoroughly corrupt organization, not unlike FIFA, that is just another institution trying to grab as much money as possible on the backs of mostly amateur athletes that get very little in return. And the same can be said of US college athletics, at least when we are taking football and basketball.

Be that as it may, it seems to me the twisted brain of Trump would be delighted to see these Olympics moved from California. Trump has never built anything useful in his life. His whole existence is about stepping on other people, inflicting pain. He would love to see California have to drop this now.

We should also note that if the games do go forward, this will be in the last 6 months of Trump's presidency, assuming he is still alive. So that could break either way with respect to the November 2028 elections which would be only about 2 months after the games.

Wiz Imp

(9,085 posts)
27. The Olympics are scheduled for July 14 - July 30, 2028.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:13 PM
Jul 2025

That's more than 3 full months prior to the election. I believe you're completely wrong about Trump being happy to have the Olympics moved from Los Angeles. He'd throw a fit. There is no other city in the US which is suitable to host - the IOC has already made that clear. If moved, they would have to be moved to another country. Trump campaigned very hard to get the IOC to get Los Angeles chosen as the site for 2028 (even though they were the only bidder) He actually wanted the 2024 games but lost out to Paris. He views getting the 2028 Olympics in LA as a great accomplishment. Having it moved to another country would absolutely devastate Trump. I can only imagine how insanely he would react if this were to happen.

The biggest problem in moving them would be the fact that not a single other city/country in the world placed a bid for these games.

Bluetus

(2,341 posts)
42. Naaaah. Trump's spite gene is too atrong
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:50 AM
Jul 2025

He will be for anything he thinks will hurt Newsom or a blue state.

Wiz Imp

(9,085 posts)
25. To make this happen, a significant pressure campaign needs to be started immediately
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:57 PM
Jul 2025

Pressure the IOC (International Olympic Committee) to move the games. And pressure all the countries to demand to the IOC that they move the games or they will not participate if the games remain in the US (this part should be easy - I'm sure a whole shit-ton of countries want no part of coming to the US at this point).

The closer we get to the date of the games, it gets exponentially harder to make any changes, so this campaign has to start right now and ramp up quickly.

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
29. Oh hell, in 3 years most of the people in this shithole country will probably be dead, have left or been deported so
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:31 AM
Jul 2025

maybe tRump can pay a bunch of russians to come cheer the Olympics wearing his stupid hat.

Doodley

(11,666 posts)
31. We are already in an international travel and international tourism recession. Many people no longer want
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:48 AM
Jul 2025

to come to America because Trump has made them feel unwelcome, and athletes will be no different.

hatrack

(64,307 posts)
43. Don't worry! New travel bans allow athletes, coaches and immediate family into Olympics, World Cup, etc. . .
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:56 AM
Jul 2025

Trump's newly announced travel ban has increased further the calls for a Boycott of the 2026 World Cup. Though the ban comes with an exemption that could apply to players, staff or associated family members participating in the tournament, Democrats are calling the move "reckless" and "discriminatory" with fears that it will lead to chaos and confusion with regards to the US's hosting of events including the World Cup, the Club World Cup and the Olympics. The exemption states that the following are not subject to the ban"

"Any athlete or member of an athletic team, including coaches, persons performing a necessary supporting role, and immediate relatives, traveling for the World Cup, Olympics, or any other major sporting event as determined by the secretary of state"

EDIT

The controversy comes on top of fears that Trump's hardline immigration policies will deter fans from traveling to the US after recent detention horror stories from tourists. Others have mocked Infantino and Trump for sharing three key traits - a love of money; a thirst for power; and rampant narcissism. There's no word yet on whether Qatar is also giving Infantino a $400 million plane, but would it surprise anyone if they were?

UEFA meanwhile accused Infantino of pursuing "private political interests" ahead of his responsibility to football. Angry statements have little to no affect on the way that Infantino and/or Trump behave. That's why increasingly people are calling for more radical action and to hit Trump and Infantino where it hurts: their wallet.

EDIT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/fifa_world_cup/calls-to-boycott-2026-world-cup-surge-after-trump-fifa-scandal/ar-AA1EY3xd?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=329bf655443441a3b8346aef920da386&ei=42&apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1

47. Olympic Boycotts
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 09:10 AM
Jul 2025

There have been olympics that were boycotted by nations due to the political situations in the host country.

I think some countries will not be invited and others will choose to boycott.

It won't be our proudest moment to be sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_Games_boycotts

maxsolomon

(38,266 posts)
54. It's going to be fine, Patricia.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:00 PM
Jul 2025

MFer is going to glory hog the entire time, but athletes and tourists from 99.9% of the world are going to be fine.

Who's going to have trouble getting in, if anyone? Tourists from Muslim nations on Stephen Miller's list.

Who won't have trouble getting in? Russians.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
60. Good! I'm glad someone is speaking out.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:42 PM
Jul 2025

Mexico can host the summer games instead. (Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants?)

twodogsbarking

(17,632 posts)
71. They can hold the Olympics at the new White House parking lot.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jul 2025

America wins all medals and Trump claims it was not rigged and all of the other countries are scum.
So why don't you feel safe at the Trumpolympics?

BidenRocks

(2,830 posts)
76. I've been calling for CANCEL since the first
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jul 2025

ICE Raid. I knew when he called in the Marines it was over.
This is a SHITHOLE country run by a SHITHOLE president!

People are afraid! Chump is a TERRORIST scaring children and adults alike.
Even our Mayor Bass mentioned Coup in her speech on the raid at MacArthur Park.

There is no happiness anymore.

Martin68

(27,129 posts)
81. The US is most definitely not a safe space for anyone from another country. The US should not be allowed to sponsor an
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:19 PM
Jul 2025

Olympics event.

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