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gab13by13

(31,351 posts)
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:50 AM Jul 2025

Krasnov's Debt Payment Was Coming Due On His 40 Wall Street Tower - Until

About 3 weeks ago Krasnov was due to make a debt payment on his Wall Street Tower. Making that payment was iffy for Krasnov with his liquidity in question and the occupancy of the tower was way down. People didn't want to stay there. The payment was around 114 million dollars.

The UAE enters the picture and invests 100 million dollars in digital crypto tokens issued by Krasnov's family. Shortly thereafter Krasnov pays off his debt on his 40 Wall Street Tower, it is now debt free.

What a coincidence, and a possible national security threat.

I have another thread ready about Krasnov's weakening of the US dollar and strengthening of crypto later.

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Krasnov's Debt Payment Was Coming Due On His 40 Wall Street Tower - Until (Original Post) gab13by13 Jul 2025 OP
Selling national secrets and influence sounds like him. 58Sunliner Jul 2025 #1
More money laundering by FalloutShelter Jul 2025 #2
There any sort of link to a news story about this? AZJonnie Jul 2025 #3
As you wish... From Reuters... ultralite001 Jul 2025 #6
Thanks for the link. The article says that total amount remaining on the loan was $114M AZJonnie Jul 2025 #11
You're welcome... ultralite001 Jul 2025 #12
The article also says "The loan was due for repayment in early July" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2025 #20
My bad, it does suggest that, and the OP did nothing wrong by interpreting it as they did :) AZJonnie Jul 2025 #29
This is basically the same thing his daddy did MurrayDelph Jul 2025 #4
Same as having a large apartment building DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #8
Not all apts and condos went empty all the time. News cycles forgot about those pregnant Russian women Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #10
Pregnant Russian women giving birth in the U.S. to gain birthright citizenship? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2025 #31
During his first term, Saudis would rent the empty rooms at his hotels, and then not show up. Midnight Writer Jul 2025 #18
...and the quid pro quo is? spanone Jul 2025 #5
We have bombed Yemen and Iran so far Johonny Jul 2025 #17
100%. The crypto has been the plan all along. Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #7
My bet is on them DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #9
the exact mo for the great depression1.0 . AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #13
This is what I've been saying, Denver.... slightlv Jul 2025 #16
Some call us pessimists DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #32
CryptoTulip Bulbs multigraincracker Jul 2025 #15
Should be a major scandal edhopper Jul 2025 #14
He doesn't give a sh!t about this country. Sogo Jul 2025 #19
So I never said that the UAE 100 million dollar procurement of Krasnov tokens gab13by13 Jul 2025 #21
The soner we get this deeply corrupt criminal psychopath out of office, the better LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #22
Doesn't he have enough wryter2000 Jul 2025 #23
UAE's coin gfarber Jul 2025 #24
Why is he called Krasnov? I missed the memo. live love laugh Jul 2025 #25
It's Moscows' code name for Dotard AZ8theist Jul 2025 #27
Every so often it seems reasonable to point this out. calimary Jul 2025 #28
"Coincidence takes a lot of planning " AZ8theist Jul 2025 #26
Trump has sold out America much more than Reagan and Jr. combined. nt Jit423 Jul 2025 #30

AZJonnie

(2,917 posts)
3. There any sort of link to a news story about this?
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jul 2025

The one thing I consistently and relentlessly hammer Trump about on my FB page is his blatant corruption so I'd love a link to an article describing what you've spelled out here

AZJonnie

(2,917 posts)
11. Thanks for the link. The article says that total amount remaining on the loan was $114M
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jul 2025

Not that a $114M payment was due, as the OP suggests. When I present stories about Trump to the world 'in real life', as I often do, I like them to have accurate figures. If they're not, it makes it too easy for (some) people to discount the whole thing you're saying, due to one inaccuracy. In fact, the lack of an imminent, huge payment becoming due more or less undermines the premise of the post, unfortunately. I absolutely would NOT be surprised if the two things are in fact linked (and hella fucking dangerous, as suggested) but there's not quite enough evidence to assert a causal relationship. Especially given sheer breadth of the Orange Menace's scams, cons, and emoluments violations.

ultralite001

(2,369 posts)
12. You're welcome...
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jul 2025

Considering the staggering confusion of Krasnov’s finances + the mind- boggling entanglements… + utter lack of transparency + failure to tell folks the truth… it’s surprising to me the whole house of cards hasn’t fallen yet… Krasnov is not that good a card player… he has major forces propping him up…

Curious to see who his kids are aligning themselves w/ these days…The old man won’t be around forever… + they know it…

muriel_volestrangler

(105,625 posts)
20. The article also says "The loan was due for repayment in early July"
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:58 AM
Jul 2025

So there's no problem at all with the OP.

AZJonnie

(2,917 posts)
29. My bad, it does suggest that, and the OP did nothing wrong by interpreting it as they did :)
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:45 PM
Jul 2025

However to me it isn't clear whether this is an assertion by Trump's organization, or as a fact independently researched by the author, as the sentence reads: "The loan was due for repayment in early July, and the spokesman for the Trump Organization -- a term used by the president's family to describe its holdings -- said the building was now debt-free"

In fact, I would be entirely unsurprised if the main assertion of the story is BS, given the source: "June 23 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's family business has paid off in full in cash the $160 million loan on its 40 Wall Street office tower in Manhattan, a Trump Organization spokesperson said on Monday,"

I would also be unsurprised if the supposed $100M 'crypto deal' was largely made up, and that the UAE actually now owns a large part of that building, or other things of value to Trump, through some shell company.

Who knows with this pathological liar and conman

MurrayDelph

(5,723 posts)
4. This is basically the same thing his daddy did
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:15 AM
Jul 2025

with one of his casinos; daddy's people walked into the casino, bought several million bucks worth of chips, and walked back out again.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
8. Same as having a large apartment building
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:27 AM
Jul 2025

with Russian Oligarchs renting them for beyond ludicrous rents, and never furnishing or living in them.....just leaving them empty......

You can bet that there are countless other totally corrupt scams that we don't even know about. My bet about one, is that with all these countries dealing with Trump for Tariff's, there are payments under the table so countries can get a much lower tariff.......

And we must not forget about the payoff to Jared and Ivanka by the Saudis.....TWO FUCKING BILLION DOLLARS.....most certainly about Top Secret info on our military capabilties, and intel on other countries about their Top Secret military's info.....Those two sure have taken the money and run distancing themselves from Daddy Dearest in a big hurry.........

Attilatheblond

(8,366 posts)
10. Not all apts and condos went empty all the time. News cycles forgot about those pregnant Russian women
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jul 2025

Women sent to live in condos/apts Russians paid Trump for. Those women were pregnant and stayed in US long enough to give birth to babies thus endowed with duel citizenship AND US passports/visas.

Some of those babies, taken back to Russia by their moms, might be old enough to have been enrolled in Putin's school for future spies.

31. Pregnant Russian women giving birth in the U.S. to gain birthright citizenship?
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 08:06 AM
Jul 2025

Sounds like a scam to me. Thank God we've got a president who's courageous enough to put an end to this charade.

Of course, during his first term Trump didn't let his properties to be used to forward this scheme.

Midnight Writer

(25,156 posts)
18. During his first term, Saudis would rent the empty rooms at his hotels, and then not show up.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jul 2025

Trump is an expert at money laundering.

In fact, the whole Republican apparatus is expert at money laundering.

Blue Full Moon

(3,198 posts)
7. 100%. The crypto has been the plan all along.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jul 2025

There is a real risk of another Great Depression with the plan that crypto currency will be safe and they plan to buy everyone out. Receate Russia here.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
9. My bet is on them
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 10:30 AM
Jul 2025

crashing the stock market, wiping out everyone's investments and retirement funds in a flash. Bringing the entire 99% to their knees literally overnight..........Along with crashing Social Security, medicare, medicaid, disability, etc

AllaN01Bear

(28,657 posts)
13. the exact mo for the great depression1.0 .
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jul 2025

hovver and his ilk didnt do a dang thing to pevent it as the rich wanted their monies back but it backfired on many of them too also

slightlv

(7,448 posts)
16. This is what I've been saying, Denver....
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:12 AM
Jul 2025

crypto is only a part of it. I see the first and main player being his TACO status with the tariffs. But I've been saying for quite a few years now that he plans on gifting us with a Great Depression 2.0, that will be even worse than the first. His policies have already kicked enough people out of their homes that they could form "trumpervilles" if they so dared. Only today, ICE would come in and shoot everyone in the tents and hovels and then bulldoze everything before the media ever considers running a pic, let alone a feature.

gab13by13

(31,351 posts)
21. So I never said that the UAE 100 million dollar procurement of Krasnov tokens
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jul 2025

was used to pay off his loan. How the fuck could one prove that, that's the main point of this crypto bullshit.

Also, how many Democratic Senators voted last month to boost crypto? Quite few.

Also, give me a list of reputable sources for me to link to. I mainly get my news from listening to people on freespeechtv.org. who I trust.

Watch the dollar closely, it's the canary in the coal mine.

gfarber

(211 posts)
24. UAE's coin
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jul 2025

Three weeks back, Trump faced a great test,
A tower's big debt left him stressed.
But lo! From the UAE,
Came a crypto cash spree—
Now it's paid, but was that in the nation's best interest?

Trump’s tower debt loomed like a wall,
With no cash, he was due for a fall.
Then UAE’s coin
Made his problems disjoin—
Now he's paid. National threat? That's the call.

Trump’s tower was deep in the red,
“No cash!” all his bankers had said.
But crypto came in—
From Gulf oil and grin—
Now it’s debt-free… and trust hangs by a thread.

calimary

(89,141 posts)
28. Every so often it seems reasonable to point this out.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jul 2025

We do get new members and visitors here, and seems to me it’s something good for THEM to know.

And for some of us others, well, sometimes memory leaves on vacation.

AZ8theist

(7,107 posts)
26. "Coincidence takes a lot of planning "
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jul 2025

To paraphrase Malcolm Nance:
"Coincidence takes a lot of bribery, corruption, grifting, and treason "

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