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riversedge

(80,060 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 09:30 AM Aug 2025

Trump's Ambass Whitaker says Trump's plan will only give Russia Ukrainian territory they "earned" on the battlefield

whow. --so the land that Putin stole by invading Ukraine is his keep as I read it. damn!!


BREAKING: Trump’s NATO Ambassador Matthew Whitaker says that Trump’s plan will only give Russia Ukrainian territory that they “earned” on the battlefield. This effectively justifies the invasion. America should not facilitate any deal that rewards Putin.






US Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker:

"No big chunks or, you know, sections [of territory] are going to be just given that haven't been fought for or earned on the battlefield, you know. But I come back to where I started, which is, you know, we need this war to end. We could save thousands of lives with a deal."

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Trump's Ambass Whitaker says Trump's plan will only give Russia Ukrainian territory they "earned" on the battlefield (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2025 OP
Dumbass. Ritabert Aug 2025 #1
Same plan for Gaza once Israel completely no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #2
Count on it pinkstarburst Aug 2025 #22
So they keep strategic positions to use later JCMach1 Aug 2025 #3
Awww...this fool hasn't been yapping at us for a while. I had wondered where he was. travelingthrulife Aug 2025 #4
Confidential sources report that Fatass45 will give Alaska back to Russia, if Putin will jls4561 Aug 2025 #5
The Republican Senators will remind him that this would lose them 2 senators karynnj Aug 2025 #17
So by this fools "logic", simply by virtue of Hey Joe Aug 2025 #6
It looks like to me that Putin wants to get out quickly, but doesn't Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #11
Ah, so Big Dick Toilet Guy is now our NATO ambassador. Super. hatrack Aug 2025 #7
"If a burglar breaks into my house, I'm going to say he has earned the right of ownership" dalton99a Aug 2025 #8
If that's his stand, I hope the UN negotiators tear him a new one Deuxcents Aug 2025 #9
Look at all that euphemistic twisting. You can almost Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #10
Well, a new low low. Disaffected Aug 2025 #12
I hope somebody over at NATO gives this clueless amoral geezer a fat lip and an atomic wedgie, at the very least. Emrys Aug 2025 #13
WIth MAGAt logic (lol), Saddam Hussein should have been given Kuwaiti territory "earned" on the battlefield! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #14
His quote on State of the Union is worse than that karynnj Aug 2025 #15
Like appeasing Hitler's invasions and takeover of Austria, Czechoslovakia. Timeflyer Aug 2025 #16
Al Capone only wanted to keep the money he earned as a successful businessman. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #18
This fuckwit would have been a Hitler fave in 1940. 11 Bravo Aug 2025 #19
It's not trmp's to give. spanone Aug 2025 #20
So if I go kick in his door with a rifle in hand NickB79 Aug 2025 #21
Some if someone went into his house and fought him for it illegally the intruder gets the house. Always Blue Aug 2025 #23

pinkstarburst

(1,897 posts)
22. Count on it
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 02:30 PM
Aug 2025

If Europe does not stand up to what's happening in Ukraine, you can bet that is EXACTLY what is going to happen in Israel/Gaza next.

JCMach1

(29,144 posts)
3. So they keep strategic positions to use later
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 09:44 AM
Aug 2025

Who TF are these people?

Worst mistake Ukraine ever made was giving up its nukes.

jls4561

(2,935 posts)
5. Confidential sources report that Fatass45 will give Alaska back to Russia, if Putin will
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 09:59 AM
Aug 2025

FINALLY return the pee tape.

karynnj

(60,832 posts)
17. The Republican Senators will remind him that this would lose them 2 senators
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:23 AM
Aug 2025

This would mean that we still have 47 and they would have 51. This would be a small gain for us as Murcowski votes with other only part of the time and is in the Republican caucus. As Trump is president we would need to gain 3 to have the majority. We now, would have to gain 4.

Hey Joe

(503 posts)
6. So by this fools "logic", simply by virtue of
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:04 AM
Aug 2025

invading a sovereign nation, killing its inhabitants, and stealing its citizens and property, they have “earned” the land they gained on the battlefield?
WTF!!
This administration gets more craven and immoral every day.
All in service to Putin as usual.

Baitball Blogger

(51,903 posts)
11. It looks like to me that Putin wants to get out quickly, but doesn't
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:25 AM
Aug 2025

want to leave with anything to show for it.

Why Trump thinks he's even needed here is beyond me.

Baitball Blogger

(51,903 posts)
10. Look at all that euphemistic twisting. You can almost
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:23 AM
Aug 2025

see how they folded themselves and turn so their heads can make it up their buttholes.

Emrys

(8,978 posts)
13. I hope somebody over at NATO gives this clueless amoral geezer a fat lip and an atomic wedgie, at the very least.
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:38 AM
Aug 2025

He's earned it, you know?

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,953 posts)
14. WIth MAGAt logic (lol), Saddam Hussein should have been given Kuwaiti territory "earned" on the battlefield!
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:04 AM
Aug 2025

Hey dipshit Republicans, Russia/Putin invading Ukraine is like Iraq/Saddam Hussein invading and claiming ownership of Kuwait. Why the fucking flip-flop? Is it because Putin is a white christian, and Soddy was a dark muslim???

Funny how the media never brings up this two-faced Republican stance on Kuwait and Ukraine.

karynnj

(60,832 posts)
15. His quote on State of the Union is worse than that
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:16 AM
Aug 2025

He also speaks of "fought for" where the conjunction is or. This seems to mean he backs Putin's position of wanting the entire Donbass including areas he has failed to win.

This gives Putin more than he has been able to capture. Note that it also gets him past the reinforced line that they have not been able to break through .... meaning it leaves the interior of Ukraine less defended than they are now. There is no reason to think Putin stops there.

As Donbass contains the minerals the US wanted Ukraine to commit to giving them some ability to buy or sell, how much you want to bet Putin includes some of that to "buy" Trump? That and his bizarre assumption that he can call this a peace treaty and get a Nobel prize for this or a "treaty" solving the Israel/Palestine problem via removing Palestine from the area. aka ethnic cleaning.

So demoralizing and sad that the US is currently on the side of the bad guys.

Timeflyer

(3,724 posts)
16. Like appeasing Hitler's invasions and takeover of Austria, Czechoslovakia.
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:16 AM
Aug 2025

Putin won't stop if he's not made to stop. Autocrats never stop their takeovers voluntarily, they just learn that force worked that time, so go bigger next time.

NickB79

(20,281 posts)
21. So if I go kick in his door with a rifle in hand
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 02:07 PM
Aug 2025

Exchange fire and drive him back to his bedroom, I get to keep the sections of his house I've "earned" through home invasion?

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