I think the DNC needs a damn shake up!

[Mr.WeRP]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/dem-strategists-urged-party-trump-military-takeover-1235415635/

DEMS’ MESSAGING NERDS URGED PARTY NOT TO TALK ABOUT TRUMP’S MILITARY TAKEOVER

Donald Trump is waging a fascist takeover of the United States, siccing the Justice Department on his political enemies while deploying federal troops to “liberate” Washington, D.C., where crime has been steadily declining. Democratic politicians are responding the only way they know how: by heeding the advice of the wonks who helped get them into this situation in the first place — and whose advice is to avoid discussing what Trump is doing.

Blue Rose Research, the firm led by Democratic establishment darling David Shor, produced a memo earlier this month digging into the effectiveness of various messages related to Trump’s takeover of Washington, D.C. The firm advised that messaging around Trump’s “rising authoritarianism” was “highly unconvincing,” while messages that say Trump wants to “distract” from his damaging tariffs or horrifying Medicaid cuts were more effective. Meanwhile, Republican messaging about how Trump is clamping down on gang violence tested through the roof.

Ok, you ever wonder why liberal folks say, “if Biden did what Trump’s doing, there’d be hell to pay!”

Well the above article is why there is no damn hell to pay for Trump.

The effective members of the party are not in charge of the DNC: AOC, Crockett, Pritzker, Newsom…

The party is in dire need of leadership change!

[FirstLight]

1. Blue states and Congress people need to band together and do MORE of what gavin Newsom is doing.

Be loud, be bold and PLAN to stay united. (None of that involves the DNC) It seems like an organization still entrenched in playing by the old rules, when the rulebook was burned by the orangina's gestapo long ago. Why is that? is the DNC just as corporate-corrupt as everyone else? I don't know, but I DO know that the folks on the streets don't usually listen to the "party leadership"...they listen to the ones who are standing UP

I agree, new leadership is needed...but it might come outside of the usual channels. Especially since the younger generation is not playing by those rules either.

[Jack Valentino]

9. The DNC, what is that ???

Not what it SHOULD be, that's for sure....



I am very nearly SOLD on a Newsum 2028 presidential nomination,
and I wasn't even very interested in such a month or two ago....

[FirstLight]

20. Oops, is it the DCC ..?

See, that's how much I pay attention to the party LOL

[Jack Valentino]

22. Uh, they are BOTH 'things'---

but two different things...

DNC is the Democratic National Committee... with representatives from all the states

DCC is Democratic Congressional Committee... or we might be missing one more letter..... anyone? Bueller??
(might be DCCC--- Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee) ??

[Blue Full Moon]

26. I think it's contrived WWE

[EdmondDantes_]

2. Are you saying that the effectiveness measuring was inaccurate?

Seems like we would want to find the most effective ways to oppose Trump. Throwing everything at the wall isn't an effective approach, especially if some things actually increase his support.

[Mr.WeRP]

5. How is the DNC's effectiveness metrics working out?

We don’t have control of any branch of government and control a minority of the states.

Seems to me, the “messaging efficacy” of the party is pretty damn low.

Here’s a hint on how to improve it:

Stop kowtowing to AIPAC,
Stop trading on stocks in Congress
Focus on kitchen table issues (and that includes talking about Trump’s fascist moves)
Stop giving in on appointments and continuing resolutions and make every fucking move painful for the opposition.

[Jack Valentino]

10. FUCK AIPAC, AMEN to that!!

Finding no disagreement with the rest of what you posted.

[3Hotdogs]

19. I support hints 1 and 3. ... and the DNC (or some Dem. organization) is holding a convention now.

So, who among us isn't inspired by the news clips that are coming out of it? Why I'm so impaired, I might just take a stamp off of my roll of stamps and write a letter to the editor.

[Hornedfrog2000]

11. Its like debating a wall.

We have people saying if we just keep doing the same shit against people committing fellonies, subverting fair elections, subverting laws, etc. Then we will win. You cannot beat people who change the laws, and do not follow the laws. We have to drag these assholes out of office . Voting wont save us, and listening to bums like chuck and nancy has gotten us nowhere.

I was an aleternate delegate for john kerry, im 40 ( you do the math). It is time to hand the reigns over to my generation, and we have seen enough.

[LT Barclay]

25. Well some aren't ready yet. Look what happened to David Hogg.

I’ve been living in the shadow of the boomers my whole life and I’m sick of most of them.
I think part of the problem was that many of the “hippies” were only there for sex, drugs, and to avoid Vietnam and became staunch republicans.
The rest were pushed to the margins sometimes violently, see the Trial of the Chicago Seven movie. For them I can only say:

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[scipan]

39. David Shor is 34 and a self described socialist. He thinks Gen z is the most conservative in decades

according to Wikipedia.

[EdmondDantes_]

29. So you think it's inaccurate.

But also the Harris campaign ran on a $25,000 down payment assistance program and incentivizing more housing being built. She ran on Trump being a threat to democracy. By any objective measure the Harris campaign was less close with Israel and thus AIPAC. Harris didn't have a position on the stock trading thing, but given some Republicans like Hawley and Rand Paul supported the bill banning elected officials from trading stocks, it kind of conflicts with the never work with Republicans thing.

But those things didn't convince enough people to vote for her. Maybe it's not so easy to find a way to market our plans or gain resonance with the public.

[Mr.WeRP]

31. Newsom is figuring it out

Some in party leadership should listen to him (or his staff). Pritzker as well.

Harris was doomed from the start. She was blamed (right or wrong) for allowing Biden to run again. He should have stayed a 1-term and hired an AG that would have got the job done.

All of that is irrelevant now. We need immediate change in party leadership.

[Kid Berwyn]

3. Political Malpractice

And don't forget to send more money.

[Torchlight]

4. Or review the particular research company responsible

for the conclusions reached by particular research company. When the raindrops aren't pushed away to my satisfaction, I'll review the efficacy of wipers before I replace the windshield.

[Jilly_in_VA]

6. The DNC needs to ROAR

not whimper. The effective members (Pritzker, Newsom, Crockett, AOC, and a few others like Talarico) are roaring. The DNC? Crickets. I am so frustrated with them I could scream!

[newdeal2]

7. The pro-Democracy messaging didn't win us much last year

That doesn't mean that important voices shouldn't speak out. But the problem with making this the main focus right now is this is mostly theoretical and hasn't impacted most voters' daily lives.

So if the messaging is just on Trump's authoritarianism and voters aren't feeling it, we may miss the boat again in 2026.

[CrispyQ]

8. My two dem senators are not speaking out with any force.

Hickenlooper has voted for almost as many of Trump's noms as Fetterman & his statement when asked about it was that we have to work with the other side when we can. WTF, Hick? You never work with fascists. NEVER. My other senator is only a little better.

Cory Booker gave that inspiring day-long speech & then voted yes for Charles Kushner, convicted felon, as Ambassador to France.

And they wonder why the party is polling badly? We're in a fight for our government & all we have are a few one-offs speaking out with any force instead of a unified voice of outrage that one would expect from an opposition party.

[AltairIV]

13. Schumer and Gillibrand: the very definition of worthless

One of my Senators writes strongly worded letters and the other keeps her mouth shut, unless instructed to do otherwise.

[JI7]

12. But people do support those things . You can keep talking about it

but these are the areas Trump has support in.

I keep saying Democrats need to have a clear and tough position on crime and immigration to help prevent the other side from exploiting it.

[usaf-vet]

14. We STOPPED writing checks. If I want to see it go to waste, I could take out a bill, strike a match, and set it on fire.

At least I would save the price of a stamp or the fees charged for using your credit card.

[republianmushroom]

15. Yup

[ZDU]

16. Sometimes DNC

... seems to be Do Nothing Controversial

[Karasu]

17. Most of the time, unfortunately.

[calimary]

18. Reading that helps me understand where and why the "pointy-headed liberals" meme caught on.

Seems to me we have to be more bad-ass than that. WAY more.

[Biophilic]

23. With that kind of attitude it's pretty clear how we got here.

Being polite and trying to work with fascists is notoriously stupid. There are lots and lots of examples of how poorly that idea works. These people are way out of touch.

[BoRaGard]

24. Wake up. Stay woke.

[azureblue]

27. as Bob Dylan said

You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Screw the Surveys. Stand up and fight like you mean it. Act on your principles. Get your head out of your butt.

It's like - someone is beating you in the head with a baseball bat, but you ask "I wonder what people think about this?"

JFC

[Mr.WeRP]

32. Damn straight. Don't think twice, it's alright.

Love the Dylan reference!

[OldDem1]

28. the old days are over

It's time for the old Democrats to get out of the way. They keep waiting for the old days to come back. Stand up and fight

[markodochartaigh]

30. I think that the "moderate Democratic politicians"

trying to work with the side actually trying to subvert democracy need to realize that they will get more votes from voters who don't see any point in voting than they will from Republican voters.

Of course we have a pay to play political system. Whether those "moderate Democratic politicians" can get more money from the hoi-polloi on the left than from corporations on the right is a different question.

[Wiz Imp]

33. Democrats have over-performed in almost all special elections in 2025

In the only 2 Congressional Special elections so far (both in Florida). In Florida District 1, The Democrat narrowed the margin from 32% to less than 15%. In District 6, the Democrat narrowed the margin from 33% to less than 14%.

State level elections have gone even better. Iowa: In a special state Senate election in January, the Democrat won in a district that Donald Trump had won by more than 20 points in the 2024 election. In a Pennsylvania special state Senate election in March, the Democrat won a seat in a district that Trump also carried by a double-digit margin. This was such a strong Republican district, that the Democrats didn't even field a candidate in the last general election in 2022.

On June 10, Democrats over-performed in 5 of 6 special elections, and the one they didn't over perform in, they still won.

And of course, the Democrat won the Wisconsin Supreme Court election pretty easily despite a record amount of money being spent on the Republican side by Elon Musk (and others).

https://democrats.org/news/democratic-overperformances-on-full-display-following-yesterdays-local-elections/

There are 2 more special elections which could be flipped by Democrats being held today.

If you only read this site, you'd think Democrats were in dire straits, yet somehow they are performing extremely well in elections this year.

[Mr.WeRP]

34. One could say

When the opposition is horrible, it should be easy. Yet we lost big time in 2024 and in 2016. And we also lost in Biden’s mid-term, though less than we thought and this was not unexpected.

These predictable patterns do not apply to special elections though and I do not give a fuck if we’ve been winning these since they could just be jerrymandered away.

The point now is not about elections. It’s about fighting the fight, and I do not mean by playing the tired old game Dems seem to be still playing. Focus groups are not going to save us here!

Democrats in leadership do not listen to their members because it’s “her time” or “they know best” or what the fuck ever.

Leadership needs to let the people who know how to fight take the damn reigns!

[W_HAMILTON]

37. It's not easy when we have so-called """allies""" constantly shitting on Democrats and...

...deluding useful idiots -- Republicans thank you for your service! -- into thinking that we are just as horrible as the opposition.

[Wiz Imp]

38. Silly me. I thought the goal was winning elections. Something the Democrats have done extremely well this year.

Special election performance is generally predictive of the next election cycle, and Democrats in 2025 are performing even better than they did prior to 2018 when they ultimately gained 41 seats in Congress.

[Autumn]

35. They need something. A B12 shot to give them a little energy, a kick in the butt or

replaced. I don't care which it is. Just fucking do something.

[yellow dahlia]

36. They need to fire the Democratic stategists.

And I said just that, earlier today.

It's a start.

And then - stop letting the ineffective and feckless set the tone. Schumer and Jeffries are the wrong leaders for this moment.

So far, I am trying to figure out how Ken Martin won the election for DNC chair.