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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMUST SEE: Newsom Tells Politico audience to WAKE TF UP!
He makes them aware that Trump should be taken seriously. Wake up! You will lose your country! - Gavin Newsom
Johnny2X2X
(23,986 posts)Newsome isn't the only voice, but he's the strongest one right now. Saying what needs to be said.
Scrivener7
(59,232 posts)is evil, mean, vindictive, a narcissist
he has shown the world who and what he is
They better believe it
malaise
(295,113 posts)Rec
sop
(18,270 posts)And if Trump cannot simply cancel elections, the Republican party will rig the electoral process so Democrats can never again win a majority.
travelingthrulife
(5,030 posts)said they planned to do.
Codifer
(1,200 posts)My deepest fear.
This would make us all fair game.
Prairie Gates
(7,804 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 28, 2025, 10:37 AM - Edit history (1)
Newsom is like, "Are you all fucking stupid or something?"
Good on Newsom.
Omnipresent
(7,401 posts)These folks at politico might be that naive, to allow trump to put nooses around their journalists necks!
mdbl
(8,505 posts)But idiots like that guy at Politico are too stupid to see it.
Prairie Gates
(7,804 posts)Only silly people actually care about the substance of politics, they think.
They don't understand that they are not that insulated after all. A dictator will destroy them as easily as he'll destroy the poor and the refugee. Yet they rush headlong to their own destruction, laughing and playing stupid little games.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Live in a vacuum, they hang out together, they are paid extremely well, they get cameo contracts in movies, and commercials... They have all rationalized what they are doing in some way or another, and they have to play nice or be fired, so its just the culture now.
Amaryllis
(11,206 posts)Who is this audience?
jfz9580m
(16,817 posts)Why did he say Newsom-Trump 2028?
yorkster
(3,773 posts)the possible candidacy of Newsom, than to
respond to Newsom's righteous warning about Trump running again in 2028.
Both the host and the audience looked and sounded like fools.
travelingthrulife
(5,030 posts)jfz9580m
(16,817 posts)I didnt recognize him..I dont really read Politico-maybe thats why..
markodochartaigh
(5,379 posts)Sacramento Summit. He is Politico's California bureau chief.
https://www.politico.com/live-events/2025/08/27/politicos-the-california-agenda-sacramento-summit-00001609
jfz9580m
(16,817 posts)I guess I will watch the whole.
jeffreyi
(2,557 posts)Wtf.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)bagimin
(1,692 posts)are the potential candidates speaking to the gravity of the situation. All our Democratic leaders need to talk this clearly and directly. We can't continue to sleepwalk through the next three and a half years. I can't imagine, nor do I want to, what this country will look like in '28.
BannonsLiver
(20,451 posts)That may change, or maybe it wont.
angrychair
(12,100 posts)But I appreciate what he is doing and that he has been such an unequivocal and unapologetic voice against Mango Mussolini within the Democratic Party when that is not always the case with everyone as many senators have voted on bills brought to them by Mango Mussolini.
ancianita
(43,242 posts)angrychair
(12,100 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 28, 2025, 12:17 PM - Edit history (2)
That VP Harris is the best candidate and I think with a whole election cycle at her back she can beat anyone the Republicans can muster, especially given they have dramatically overplayed their hand here.
ancianita
(43,242 posts)Do you think that Republican operatives will still hold to the same arguments about Harris?
Do you think we on DU didn't dissect and link to the reasons she lost?
Of all the DU OP's I've reviewed, I think this one from Robert Reich says it best...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219697307
On Tuesday, according to exit polls, Americans voted mainly on the economy and their votes reflected their class and level of education.
While the economy has improved over the last two years according to standard economic measures, most Americans without college degrees thats the majority have not felt it.
In fact, most Americans without college degrees have not felt much economic improvement for four decades, and their jobs have grown less secure. The real median wage of the bottom 90 percent is stuck nearly where it was in the early 1990s, even though the economy is more than twice as large.
Most of the economys gains have gone to the top.
This has caused many Americans to feel frustrated and angry. Trump gave voice to that anger. Harris did not.
The real lesson of the 2024 election is that Democrats must not just give voice to the anger but also explain how record inequality has corrupted our system, and pledge to limit the political power of big corporations and the super-rich.
The basic bargain used to be that if you worked hard and played by the rules, youd do better and your children would do even better than you.
But since 1980, that bargain has become a sham. The middle class has shrunk.
Why? While Republicans steadily cut taxes on the wealthy, Democrats abandoned the working class.
Democrats embraced NAFTA and lowered tariffs on Chinese goods. They deregulated finance and allowed Wall Street to become a high-stakes gambling casino. They let big corporations gain enough market power to keep prices (and profit margins) high.
They let corporations bust unions (with negligible penalties) and slash payrolls. They bailed out Wall Street when its gambling addiction threatened to blow up the entire economy but never bailed out homeowners who lost everything.
They welcomed big money into their campaigns and delivered quid pro quos that rigged the market in favor of big corporations and the wealthy.
Joe Biden redirected the Democratic Party back toward its working-class roots, but many of the changes he catalyzed more vigorous antitrust enforcement, stronger enforcement of labor laws, and major investments in manufacturing, infrastructure, semiconductors, and non-fossil fuels wouldnt be evident for years, and he could not communicate effectively about them.
The Republican Party says its on the side of working people, but its policies will hurt ordinary workers even more. Trumps tariffs will drive up prices. His expected retreat from vigorous antitrust enforcement will allow giant corporations to drive up prices further.
If Republicans gain control over the House as well as the Senate, as looks likely, they will extend Trumps 2017 tax law and add additional tax cuts. As in 2017, these lower taxes will benefit mainly the wealthy and enlarge the national debt, which will give Republicans an excuse to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid their objectives for decades.
Democrats must no longer do the bidding of big corporations and the wealthy. They must instead focus on winning back the working class.
They should demand paid family leave, Medicare for all, free public higher education, stronger unions, higher taxes on great wealth, and housing credits that will generate the biggest boom in residential home construction since World War II.
They should also demand that corporations share their profits with their workers. They should call for limits on CEO pay, eliminate all stock buybacks (as was the SEC rule before 1982), and reject corporate welfare (subsidies and tax credit to particular companies and industries unrelated to the common good).
Democrats need to tell Americans why their pay has been lousy for decades and their jobs less secure: not because of immigrants, liberals, people of color, the deep state, or any other Trump Republican bogeyman, but because of the power of large corporations and the rich to rig the market and siphon off most of the economys gains.
In doing this, Democrats need not turn their backs on democracy. Democracy goes hand-in-hand with a fair economy. Only by reducing the power of big money in our politics can America grow the middle class, reward hard work, and reaffirm the basic bargain at the heart of our system.
If the Trump Republicans gain control of the House, as seems likely, they will have complete control of the federal government. That means they will own whatever happens to the economy and will be responsible for whatever happens to America. Notwithstanding all their anti-establishment populist rhetoric, they will become the establishment.
The Democratic Party should use this inflection point to shift ground from being the party of well-off college graduates, big corporations, never-Trumpers like Dick Cheney, and vacuous centrism to an anti-establishment party ready to shake up the system on behalf of the vast majority of Americans.
This is and should be The Lesson of the 2024 election.
Can Kamala do this after four years? Or will what she says remind Americans why they didn't vote for her the last time?.
Mr.WeRP
(1,098 posts)Its time to get behind those who are actually doing something.
We lost 2016 because party leadership felt it was Clintons turn. It wasnt. And Harriss career in politics is over.
angrychair
(12,100 posts)Says who and please be specific on how one of the most successful candidates in US history no longer has a political career?
Mr.WeRP
(1,098 posts)Biden should have never have planned to run for two terms. She has been pretty quiet since the election and while she has made some appearances, her stance has been pretty much you got what you voted for. Well most of us didnt vote for what we got. Shes offered no real solutions to standing up to Trump where Pritzker, Newsom and others have.
There used to be an old rule in politics: if you run and lose as the party candidate for POTUS, you dont get a second chance. That also applies here.
Its not her time anymore. Its time to fight and we need a leader who is aware of what that fight is going to look like.
angrychair
(12,100 posts)The only viable candidates are rich old white men.
Got it.
NutmegYankee
(16,477 posts)If Harris was doing something, she'd have more support. The base is desperate for someone to push back on these Nazi scum!
PunkinPi
(5,264 posts)chance."
How many times did Biden run for POTUS before winning? Or is this "rule" just for women candidates?
BannonsLiver
(20,451 posts)If she wants to run, that's her choice, but she'll be just another horse in the race at that point.
radical noodle
(10,557 posts)not those who run in the primary and lose. Biden had never been the nominee previously.
Tetrachloride
(9,558 posts)as far as i know, my job is done
we flyover blue people have a simple life
CoopersDad
(3,303 posts)Love my governor for his present truthtelling.
We need to get behind this and spread the word.
I don't think enough people know how serious this is.. we need new ways to spread the information
Amaryllis
(11,206 posts)Figarosmom
(11,338 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)It is just like ww2. They are flooding the internet with propaganda. People need to get off social media, but they wont.