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LuckyCharms

(21,999 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:33 AM Sep 2025

Bullshit, this is all bullshit.

I'm feeling like I want to rant, but I'm not sure what to say.

Charlie Kirk was not a deity. He was a human being like the rest of us.

Maybe these people should be spending hours talking about EACH of the victims of school shootings, AT LENGTH, FOR DAYS, because they are just as important, if not more so.

Also, if you want to have a press conference and lament about political violence...ADDRESS THE MOTHERFUCKING SOURCE OF WHY THIS SICK ENVIRONMENT EXISTS.

CALL OUT THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT SQUATS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

FUCK!

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Bullshit, this is all bullshit. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Sep 2025 OP
They got a martyr, gab13by13 Sep 2025 #1
What do you expect from a president who pardoned over 1,500 1/6 insurrectionists, calling them "patriots," sop Sep 2025 #2
Don't forget he also gave Babbitt's mom $5 million tax payer money Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #7
I had to shut it off when Patel started thanking Bondi and the DOJ. Gag reflex kicked in. Nanuke Sep 2025 #3
Neither Bondi nor the DOJ had anything to do with catching the guy RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #36
Rant to me Traildogbob Sep 2025 #4
Kirk was collateral damage on Trump's Fifth Avenue America. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #5
Is it too soon to talk about the life's work of Charlie Kirk? Martin Eden Sep 2025 #6
Is it Karma or Justice? homegirl Sep 2025 #9
Karma, if such exists. Irony, certainly. Martin Eden Sep 2025 #16
Right now, apparently, anyone who is actually quoting mwmisses4289 Sep 2025 #20
Its all out there, on videos, on transcripts Escurumbele Sep 2025 #22
One important contributing factor as to why this blue-wave Sep 2025 #8
Divisive propaganda from foreign sources is an intentional administration policy. hay rick Sep 2025 #10
All Bullshit! we're drowning in it. mountain grammy Sep 2025 #11
He was a worse human being than the overwhelming majority of us JT45242 Sep 2025 #12
I hate that this is being characterized as "political" infullview Sep 2025 #13
"Charlie Kirk was not a deity". I know, right? Texin Sep 2025 #14
I'm not sure what to say? LilElf70 Sep 2025 #15
K & R Emile Sep 2025 #17
Leading cause of children's death is gun shot. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #18
Charlie wasn't an elected official. He wasn't a representative voice of anyone in running our goverment. ToxMarz Sep 2025 #19
What is the Bullshit Brigade reporting? moondust Sep 2025 #21
Amen Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #23
They want DiverDave Sep 2025 #24
He didn't even make it in a two-year college CountAllVotes Sep 2025 #27
Redo the 2nd then because until we do any laws that are passed the Courts can throw out on a whim. cstanleytech Sep 2025 #25
Seeing red Avalon Sparks Sep 2025 #26
K&R spanone Sep 2025 #28
He got his wish. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it. usonian Sep 2025 #29
Political violence damifino10 Sep 2025 #30
I second your motion................. turbinetree Sep 2025 #31
Maybe ... AncientOfDays Sep 2025 #32
on Twitter yesterday, someone mentioned that this assassination could be like a MAGA Reichstag Fire VanMilder Sep 2025 #33
Welcome to DU. Here's what Stephen Miller's been up to. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #34
He is not a martyr kevinore Sep 2025 #35
Of course it's bullshit. This is being purposefully ramped up Javaman Sep 2025 #37

gab13by13

(31,369 posts)
1. They got a martyr,
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:38 AM
Sep 2025

if the shooter wasn't from the left he will be a tarnished martyr.

The narrative that Magats want to put out is that anyone to the left of Kirk needs to be shut down, which means anyone opposed to a Dictatorship.

sop

(17,631 posts)
2. What do you expect from a president who pardoned over 1,500 1/6 insurrectionists, calling them "patriots,"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:41 AM
Sep 2025

"hostages," and "political prisoners," and gave Ashli Babbitt full military funeral honors?

Attilatheblond

(8,378 posts)
7. Don't forget he also gave Babbitt's mom $5 million tax payer money
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:42 AM
Sep 2025

Seems like he is saying "mommas, raise your chilins to grow up to be lawbreakers'

I keep hoping the people in NC, still struggling from hurricane Helene and now denied the FEMA money they are entitled to are paying attention to how the Trump Regime spends our money and how they got stiffed.

RVN VET71

(3,135 posts)
36. Neither Bondi nor the DOJ had anything to do with catching the guy
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:16 AM
Sep 2025

Well, other than taking the phone call from the kid's father. This was not a fucking investigation, for chrissakes. Patel couldn't run an investigation properly if his life depended on it. He's a fraud, out of his depth and untalented -- not to mention of low intelligence (as his boss might phrase it).

Sure, there were agents in the field. But they didn't find the guy. The kids old man turned him in because, for god's sake, he's a fucking minister (and a gun nut, but still) who felt morally obligated to do the thing that no father ever wants to have to do.

So I say God bless perhaps the only morally upright person in this story: the (admittedly gun-fascinated) Dad. And, above all else, fuck fuck fuck everybody in the corrupt and evil political sphere seeking to take credit.

ALSO: WHEN ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES GOING TO BE RELEASED. THERE'S ARE 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS WHO NEEDS TO SEE THEM AS A WARNING.

Traildogbob

(12,614 posts)
4. Rant to me
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:01 AM
Sep 2025

I welcome it and will join you. This shit is pathetic.
I missed Kimmel’s opening but heard it on Stephanie’s show, and I forgot all the Kill the Dems rants trump has spewed out of his facial anus.
Even his neck vagina spews hate and kill libs.
On video!!!!!!
So they can shut the fuck up claiming Kirk was the returning Messiah. Anybody wanna bet on if he will raise from the dead??
Maybe some one should have handed him a magical healing Kotex, that regrows tissue and leaves no scar.
I actually hate all these GQP politicians leading the rhetoric to kill libs much much more than Kirk.
I hate he was shot. But it is looking like the GQP are fucking partying like hell that he is their new messaging machine. A little TOO much???? Wonder why?

Martin Eden

(15,385 posts)
6. Is it too soon to talk about the life's work of Charlie Kirk?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:42 AM
Sep 2025

An honest examination, in the realm of facts and ideas, of what he said and stood for.

Would that be grounds for a defamation lawsuit?

homegirl

(1,928 posts)
9. Is it Karma or Justice?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:53 AM
Sep 2025

"I do not support what happened to Charlie, but Charlie supported what happened to Charlie."

Martin Eden

(15,385 posts)
16. Karma, if such exists. Irony, certainly.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:39 AM
Sep 2025

Justice can be other than punishment for breaking the law. However, I think justice for Charlie Kirk would be widespread repudiation of his rhetoric & ideology, ultimately for him to be ignored and forgotten.

mwmisses4289

(3,358 posts)
20. Right now, apparently, anyone who is actually quoting
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:11 PM
Sep 2025

charlie is being attacked by the rabid rwnjs as defaming him.

Escurumbele

(4,028 posts)
22. Its all out there, on videos, on transcripts
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:21 PM
Sep 2025

He hated blacks, was scared to get on an airplane if he learned the pilot was black, he was a bigot.

He incited violence to protect the 2nd amendment. "Guns, deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment."

He was a misogynist, he believed women should live to service their men, to stay home, to not educate themselves.

He believed all Democrats should be killed, inciting violence.

Hated gays and believed they should all be stoned to death...More violence

Didn't think people should retire. I guess, work until your body collapses.

He thought the guy who assaulted Pelosi's husband was a hero. More violence.

And the fact that his target audience was college kids who many tend to be impressed by an eloquent orator, and he definitely was eloquent.

Anyway, all of these vile rhetoric from him is out there, on video, transcripts, etc.

I do not condone violence but, we all have to remember that Charles Manson did not physically killed the victims, he was the master mind, but Vincent Bugliosi was able to prove that he was as guilty, or more, than those who did commit the actual physical crimes. I can't say who Kirk influenced to commit crimes, and maybe no one followed on his inciting rhetoric (I hope no one did), but nonetheless, at least in my opinion, that is his legacy, preaching hate.

blue-wave

(4,827 posts)
8. One important contributing factor as to why this
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 2025

bullshit exists is our adversaries. Russia and China have been using this tragedy as an opportunity to divide America. Russia in particular is using this as an opportunity to erode American support for Ukraine. We in the west, somehow someway, must learn to not be manipulated by our adversaries propaganda. It is hurting us and sometimes tragically killing us.

Russia, China 'Bots' Want Violence After Charlie Kirk Killing: Governor
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirks-assassination-governor-cox-bots-adversaries-violence-2128699

Russian Officials Use Charlie Kirk's Death to Attack Ukraine
https://www.newsweek.com/kirk-killing-medvedev-maga-2128048

hay rick

(9,396 posts)
10. Divisive propaganda from foreign sources is an intentional administration policy.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:02 AM
Sep 2025

The policy was implemented with the shutdown of the State Department's Counter Foreign Information Manipulation and Interference (R/FIMI) office in April 2025. The predecessor agency, known as the Global Engagement Center, was defunded by Republicans in 2024.

mountain grammy

(28,737 posts)
11. All Bullshit! we're drowning in it.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:02 AM
Sep 2025

but one less bigoted asshole is not around to spread it and I say that with respect..

Always say something good about the dead.... GOOD,. he's dead!

JT45242

(3,864 posts)
12. He was a worse human being than the overwhelming majority of us
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
Sep 2025

Period.
He was a despicable human being that was lampoon on south park for a reason. He monetized hate in a way only a handful of people have... Limbaugh, Alex Smith of Infowars.

Don't lump him in with normal people with empathy.

He was a calculated sociopath

infullview

(1,109 posts)
13. I hate that this is being characterized as "political"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:22 AM
Sep 2025

Republicans are squarely trying to blame violence on the dems when it was the violent rhetoric by CK himself that inflamed someone to the point of taking these actions.

This was more like idealogical terrorism.

Of interest: per The Guardian “Notably, one of the casings was engraved with “Bella Ciao”.

This, as my colleagues have reported, is the name of an anti-fascist anthem sung annually in Italy to commemorate the end of Mussolini’s dictatorship and the end of the Nazi regime.”

Texin

(2,834 posts)
14. "Charlie Kirk was not a deity". I know, right?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:27 AM
Sep 2025

Yet you'd think he was the second coming of Christ and he was murdered all over again. This is just absolutely insane and I blame it on the media and, of course, CK's orange toad god.

LilElf70

(1,405 posts)
15. I'm not sure what to say?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:34 AM
Sep 2025

The caps tell the story....

ADDRESS THE MOTHERFUCKING SOURCE OF WHY THIS SICK ENVIRONMENT EXISTS.

CALL OUT THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT SQUATS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

FUCK!

I do believe you figured it out.....

ToxMarz

(2,775 posts)
19. Charlie wasn't an elected official. He wasn't a representative voice of anyone in running our goverment.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:04 PM
Sep 2025

No one was directly 'silenced' but him by the gunmans actions. While this is an influential action as the victim was influential, MANY people are killed in this country due to diffences in politial opinions. Famly members kill family members at Thanksgiving arguing politcs, bar fights over politics, ... it's endless. Charlie Kirk was a major asset, influencer and money raiser for the Republicans. It is a sginificant loss for them, but I feel his tragic death is more akin all the other divise political killings and less along the lines of the killing elected, representaive officials and candidates as far as 'political assasinations' go. And Repulicans only care when it directly affects THEM as far as future money, election votes, or control of the government. A death has to impact them personally to be worthy of note.

moondust

(21,236 posts)
21. What is the Bullshit Brigade reporting?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:21 PM
Sep 2025

Or are they still busy inventing their bullshit narrative?

DiverDave

(5,222 posts)
24. They want
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:29 PM
Sep 2025

A MILITARY funeral, and I don't think he served.
They want a capital viewing.
They want a goddamned STATUE.
Just sickening.

cstanleytech

(28,255 posts)
25. Redo the 2nd then because until we do any laws that are passed the Courts can throw out on a whim.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:31 PM
Sep 2025

Avalon Sparks

(2,743 posts)
26. Seeing red
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:34 PM
Sep 2025

Beyond infuriated at maga outrage over this and absolute silence, except for some glee over the murder of Hortman and her family. The depth of their hypocrisy is bottomless.

My reaction to both Kirk’s death and now this young man’s certain destiny throwing away his life is overwhelming sadness.

There is ONLY ONE PERSON I HOLD ACCOUNTABLE for ALL OF THIS.

usonian

(23,716 posts)
29. He got his wish. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:29 PM
Sep 2025


The only place safe from all those murdered schoolkids is hell.

Enjoy your stay. You'll be in good company.



damifino10

(152 posts)
30. Political violence
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:11 PM
Sep 2025

is rampid @ 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. District of Columbia. The majority of the senate is guilty of aiding and abetting
what is happening. Where are the Bar Associonations in calling out the many lawyers in congress that are guilty of
the destruction of this country? That being the Un-united States of America.

VanMilder

(8 posts)
33. on Twitter yesterday, someone mentioned that this assassination could be like a MAGA Reichstag Fire
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 02:50 AM
Sep 2025

..not really all that sure with what it was, I looked it up and considered it in a kind of wait and see way. I try not to get too far into conspiracies that are unproven.

This evening, I heard Stephen Miller in a sound bite: I don't know when it was recorded so maybe this is incorrect to suggest but IF his comments were from today, after it was made public that there was a suspect in custody, it would suggest that Miller, at least, may be wanting this as a Reichstag event regardless of the facts. In any event, f*ck that guy!

Also, off topic but I am grateful for this man's father encouraging him to surrender.

Javaman

(65,205 posts)
37. Of course it's bullshit. This is being purposefully ramped up
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 09:12 AM
Sep 2025

To distract from the Epstein files.

They are going full court press with this shit

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