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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBullshit, this is all bullshit.
I'm feeling like I want to rant, but I'm not sure what to say.
Charlie Kirk was not a deity. He was a human being like the rest of us.
Maybe these people should be spending hours talking about EACH of the victims of school shootings, AT LENGTH, FOR DAYS, because they are just as important, if not more so.
Also, if you want to have a press conference and lament about political violence...ADDRESS THE MOTHERFUCKING SOURCE OF WHY THIS SICK ENVIRONMENT EXISTS.
CALL OUT THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT SQUATS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
FUCK!
gab13by13
(31,369 posts)if the shooter wasn't from the left he will be a tarnished martyr.
The narrative that Magats want to put out is that anyone to the left of Kirk needs to be shut down, which means anyone opposed to a Dictatorship.
sop
(17,631 posts)"hostages," and "political prisoners," and gave Ashli Babbitt full military funeral honors?
Attilatheblond
(8,378 posts)Seems like he is saying "mommas, raise your chilins to grow up to be lawbreakers'
I keep hoping the people in NC, still struggling from hurricane Helene and now denied the FEMA money they are entitled to are paying attention to how the Trump Regime spends our money and how they got stiffed.
Nanuke
(904 posts)RVN VET71
(3,135 posts)Well, other than taking the phone call from the kid's father. This was not a fucking investigation, for chrissakes. Patel couldn't run an investigation properly if his life depended on it. He's a fraud, out of his depth and untalented -- not to mention of low intelligence (as his boss might phrase it).
Sure, there were agents in the field. But they didn't find the guy. The kids old man turned him in because, for god's sake, he's a fucking minister (and a gun nut, but still) who felt morally obligated to do the thing that no father ever wants to have to do.
So I say God bless perhaps the only morally upright person in this story: the (admittedly gun-fascinated) Dad. And, above all else, fuck fuck fuck everybody in the corrupt and evil political sphere seeking to take credit.
ALSO: WHEN ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES GOING TO BE RELEASED. THERE'S ARE 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS WHO NEEDS TO SEE THEM AS A WARNING.
Traildogbob
(12,614 posts)I welcome it and will join you. This shit is pathetic.
I missed Kimmels opening but heard it on Stephanies show, and I forgot all the Kill the Dems rants trump has spewed out of his facial anus.
Even his neck vagina spews hate and kill libs.
On video!!!!!!
So they can shut the fuck up claiming Kirk was the returning Messiah. Anybody wanna bet on if he will raise from the dead??
Maybe some one should have handed him a magical healing Kotex, that regrows tissue and leaves no scar.
I actually hate all these GQP politicians leading the rhetoric to kill libs much much more than Kirk.
I hate he was shot. But it is looking like the GQP are fucking partying like hell that he is their new messaging machine. A little TOO much???? Wonder why?
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,923 posts)Martin Eden
(15,385 posts)An honest examination, in the realm of facts and ideas, of what he said and stood for.
Would that be grounds for a defamation lawsuit?
homegirl
(1,928 posts)"I do not support what happened to Charlie, but Charlie supported what happened to Charlie."
Martin Eden
(15,385 posts)Justice can be other than punishment for breaking the law. However, I think justice for Charlie Kirk would be widespread repudiation of his rhetoric & ideology, ultimately for him to be ignored and forgotten.
mwmisses4289
(3,358 posts)charlie is being attacked by the rabid rwnjs as defaming him.
Escurumbele
(4,028 posts)He hated blacks, was scared to get on an airplane if he learned the pilot was black, he was a bigot.
He incited violence to protect the 2nd amendment. "Guns, deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment."
He was a misogynist, he believed women should live to service their men, to stay home, to not educate themselves.
He believed all Democrats should be killed, inciting violence.
Hated gays and believed they should all be stoned to death...More violence
Didn't think people should retire. I guess, work until your body collapses.
He thought the guy who assaulted Pelosi's husband was a hero. More violence.
And the fact that his target audience was college kids who many tend to be impressed by an eloquent orator, and he definitely was eloquent.
Anyway, all of these vile rhetoric from him is out there, on video, transcripts, etc.
I do not condone violence but, we all have to remember that Charles Manson did not physically killed the victims, he was the master mind, but Vincent Bugliosi was able to prove that he was as guilty, or more, than those who did commit the actual physical crimes. I can't say who Kirk influenced to commit crimes, and maybe no one followed on his inciting rhetoric (I hope no one did), but nonetheless, at least in my opinion, that is his legacy, preaching hate.
blue-wave
(4,827 posts)bullshit exists is our adversaries. Russia and China have been using this tragedy as an opportunity to divide America. Russia in particular is using this as an opportunity to erode American support for Ukraine. We in the west, somehow someway, must learn to not be manipulated by our adversaries propaganda. It is hurting us and sometimes tragically killing us.
Russia, China 'Bots' Want Violence After Charlie Kirk Killing: Governor
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirks-assassination-governor-cox-bots-adversaries-violence-2128699
Russian Officials Use Charlie Kirk's Death to Attack Ukraine
https://www.newsweek.com/kirk-killing-medvedev-maga-2128048
hay rick
(9,396 posts)The policy was implemented with the shutdown of the State Department's Counter Foreign Information Manipulation and Interference (R/FIMI) office in April 2025. The predecessor agency, known as the Global Engagement Center, was defunded by Republicans in 2024.
mountain grammy
(28,737 posts)but one less bigoted asshole is not around to spread it and I say that with respect..
Always say something good about the dead.... GOOD,. he's dead!
JT45242
(3,864 posts)Period.
He was a despicable human being that was lampoon on south park for a reason. He monetized hate in a way only a handful of people have... Limbaugh, Alex Smith of Infowars.
Don't lump him in with normal people with empathy.
He was a calculated sociopath
infullview
(1,109 posts)Republicans are squarely trying to blame violence on the dems when it was the violent rhetoric by CK himself that inflamed someone to the point of taking these actions.
This was more like idealogical terrorism.
Of interest: per The Guardian Notably, one of the casings was engraved with Bella Ciao.
This, as my colleagues have reported, is the name of an anti-fascist anthem sung annually in Italy to commemorate the end of Mussolinis dictatorship and the end of the Nazi regime.
Texin
(2,834 posts)Yet you'd think he was the second coming of Christ and he was murdered all over again. This is just absolutely insane and I blame it on the media and, of course, CK's orange toad god.
LilElf70
(1,405 posts)The caps tell the story....
ADDRESS THE MOTHERFUCKING SOURCE OF WHY THIS SICK ENVIRONMENT EXISTS.
CALL OUT THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT SQUATS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
FUCK!
I do believe you figured it out.....
Emile
(40,848 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,213 posts)ToxMarz
(2,775 posts)No one was directly 'silenced' but him by the gunmans actions. While this is an influential action as the victim was influential, MANY people are killed in this country due to diffences in politial opinions. Famly members kill family members at Thanksgiving arguing politcs, bar fights over politics, ... it's endless. Charlie Kirk was a major asset, influencer and money raiser for the Republicans. It is a sginificant loss for them, but I feel his tragic death is more akin all the other divise political killings and less along the lines of the killing elected, representaive officials and candidates as far as 'political assasinations' go. And Repulicans only care when it directly affects THEM as far as future money, election votes, or control of the government. A death has to impact them personally to be worthy of note.
moondust
(21,236 posts)Or are they still busy inventing their bullshit narrative?
Joinfortmill
(20,222 posts)DiverDave
(5,222 posts)A MILITARY funeral, and I don't think he served.
They want a capital viewing.
They want a goddamned STATUE.
Just sickening.
CountAllVotes
(22,105 posts)cstanleytech
(28,255 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,743 posts)Beyond infuriated at maga outrage over this and absolute silence, except for some glee over the murder of Hortman and her family. The depth of their hypocrisy is bottomless.
My reaction to both Kirks death and now this young mans certain destiny throwing away his life is overwhelming sadness.
There is ONLY ONE PERSON I HOLD ACCOUNTABLE for ALL OF THIS.
spanone
(141,099 posts)usonian
(23,716 posts)
The only place safe from all those murdered schoolkids is hell.
Enjoy your stay. You'll be in good company.


damifino10
(152 posts)is rampid @ 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. District of Columbia. The majority of the senate is guilty of aiding and abetting
what is happening. Where are the Bar Associonations in calling out the many lawyers in congress that are guilty of
the destruction of this country? That being the Un-united States of America.
turbinetree
(27,033 posts)AncientOfDays
(255 posts)... we should talk about Charlie Kirk's victims.
VanMilder
(8 posts)..not really all that sure with what it was, I looked it up and considered it in a kind of wait and see way. I try not to get too far into conspiracies that are unproven.
This evening, I heard Stephen Miller in a sound bite: I don't know when it was recorded so maybe this is incorrect to suggest but IF his comments were from today, after it was made public that there was a suspect in custody, it would suggest that Miller, at least, may be wanting this as a Reichstag event regardless of the facts. In any event, f*ck that guy!
Also, off topic but I am grateful for this man's father encouraging him to surrender.
Crunchy Frog
(28,214 posts)kevinore
(85 posts)He is Trump's Reichstag!
Javaman
(65,205 posts)To distract from the Epstein files.
They are going full court press with this shit