The kid that jumped off that building did not have a fucking gun

[hookaleft]

This bothers me. People have claimed that he had the gun in his pants leg. I didn't see it.

[markodochartaigh]

1. In the close up video that

I saw he had something that looked like an object wrapped in a towel or jacket. The police also said that they found a screwdriver. He could have unscrewed the barrel from the rifle stock and wrapped them in the towel.

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[Pachamama]

2. It could not have been in either of his pant legs - he bends both legs fully both in running & when jumping

Even strapped, the length and weight and mass would have affected his running and movement. If he had it broken down, it was either strapped to his back or in a backpack or bag with him.

Or as the poster suggested - it wasn’t with him.

[FormerOstrich]

27. What I find odd about that video...is it shows

other people walking around (nearly crossing his path). There had to be pandemonium in close proximity. The other people and cars don't seem to reflect that.

Not to mention, I have seen the other people around were not shown...even though it seems to be the same video.

[Igel]

43. At 0:24 seconds it appears he reaches up for something and swings it down to his side. n/t

[33taw]

3. I think they are referring to when he was walking in the stairwell entering the building.

[exboyfil]

22. Could the gun have been prepositioned?

[artemisia1]

4. He would have to have removed bolt, scope AND barrel within seconds. Hard to believe he did this so quickly but I

suppose anything is possible. But then, why rechamber the spent cartridge? LE says there was a used cartridge in the chamber and three unfired in the internal magazine. Also, the writing makes no sense. Could be a confused, mentally unwell psychopathic young man doing stupid stuff, but I remain open to some forces using this to taint left movements and trans people. Just some thoughts.

On edit: removing the barrel still leaves the total length of the stock, and I don't know that there was concealment room available even for that.

[Irish_Dem]

5. How long is just the barrel?

[artemisia1]

8. It depends upon the model. /nt

[Irish_Dem]

9. It would be easy to get the bolt action Mauser barrel measurements.

Then determine how and if it could be concealed on the shooter's person or backpack.

[artemisia1]

10. Yes. If that is the actual rifle used. It would be a tight fit, but maybe possible. The question is disassemble time.

The firearm expert shown, on all places, Fox News, got it totally wrong in saying "seconds". That's for a portable, low-caliber survival rifle designed to quickly come apart --- not a high-velocity, large grain projectile firing actual rifle.

No, I don't watch Faux news; I saw the clip on YouTube and quickly realized the "expert" was full of something that rhymes with "it", imo.

[Irish_Dem]

12. How many things does he have to take apart?

Just the barrel from the rest of the gun?

He would not have to disassemble the whole gun?

He just has to decrease the length?

[Irish_Dem]

13. There are only a few explanations.

The gun could have been hidden at the location ahead of time.
That is why we don't see him carrying a gun up the stairs?
Or when he is jumping off the building.

Or he took the gun apart and the gun was hidden on his person or in a backpack.

Or there was another person who helped him.

Or perhaps he threw the gun off the building before he jumped.

[Bev54]

34. Agree, they did say he visited the site a few times prior, likely scoping his route out.

He could have planted it at any of these times.

[Irish_Dem]

35. Yes this makes the most sense then.

He had hidden the gun ahead of time.
That was a clever piece of work.

Too bad he didn't plan his escape and after plan as well.

[Kaleva]

42. Yes

[NickB79]

31. 22-26"

And old Mausers don't have a way to quickly remove the barrel. It's threaded in and requires a vise to remove. Often a heat gun as well.

[Irish_Dem]

6. It is possible he was psychotic. Or someone coached him.

Possibly both.

[Sneederbunk]

30. Insanity always trumps ideolgy. Pun intended.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Yes if you are needing to make a quick getaway why re-chamber a used bullet?

Unless he was making a political statement.
Which overrode common sense to get away quickly.

So then we are looking at the psychotic thought process.

The crime scene leaves a great deal of evidence about someone's mental status.

[Kaleva]

11. The casing would have remained in the chamber until he worked the action

Being a bolt action, one had to manually eject the spent casing

[Old Crank]

14. That is my thinking.

Semi autos eject the casing.

[Kaleva]

16. Yes

[artemisia1]

18. To remove the barrel you must remove the bolt. This removes the spent casing. It was reinserted at some point. /nt

[Kaleva]

20. Which might suggest the gun wasn't broken down after the shot

[artemisia1]

21. That is my thought. /nt

[Disaffected]

23. Why is that?

On a rifle I once had (not the same type though), the stock could be easily removed w/o touching the bolt.

[Kaleva]

24. I think he was talking about removing the barrel

[Disaffected]

37. Removing the barrel, removing the stock?

Aren't they m/l the same thing i.e. separating the barrel and the stock?

[artemisia1]

38. On the Mauser 98 it is necessary to first remove the bolt. /nt

[Disaffected]

41. Thanks but that is what you said b/f (which prompted my question). nt

[Shrek]

17. He didn't rechamber the cartridge

It's a bolt-action rifle, meaning the cartridge stays in the chamber unless the shooter throws the bolt.

[artemisia1]

19. Unless you remove the barrel which requires moving/removing the bolt. /nt

[rzemanfl]

28. Bolt actions don't automatically eject the spent cartridge after firing.

[ms liberty]

25. Yes. he did. You can clearly see him holding something long and dark

It looks like cloth something around it by the way it moves. He drops it at the ledge and grabs it as he lowering himself. Then when he lands on the ground he grabs it and holds it by his leg as he runs off.

[Beausoleil]

29. The dark object on his left side is

something heavy.
There's no movement of cloth like it's weight in a bag or wrapped in a towel.

Could be a rifle, by the way it moves with his movements. And we don't see the barrel, but it may be obscured.

[GreenWave]

26. Moron showed his deep religious upbringing. He refused to brachiate in the nearby tree.

Better escape route.

[OLDMDDEM]

32. Yes he did. In his right hand as he fell.

[Mike Nelson]

33. I believe the tape shows...

... his arrival has the "pant leg" concealing the long gun. He wants with a bit of a limp, which could be explained by concealing a long gun in your pant leg. Jumping off the roof and running does not, obviously. Very athletic. That's after... So, they say he disassembled the gun. Must be a quick change, then... the gun would probably be broken. Okay... but the other photos of him on the stairway, for example. Are they before or after... Seemed like arrival, to me... His pants are not loose and only an iPhone looks apparent. There is no long gun. Then, there is a new release of his arrival - in shorts! Another quick change? So, he arrived in shorts and changed clothing, they report... and, where was the gun, then?

[Greg_In_SF]

36. Yes

he did.

[MagickMuffin]

39. Gun nutters are using tripod bags to carry their weapons

I was searching for a carry bag for a musical instrument I have and found a really nice one padded comes in two sizes. I usually read the comments to determine if I want to purchase an item.

That is how I found out they are using tripod bags. I didn't know the names of the guns. Google helped in that regards.
Cheap and effective for their needs.

Silfrae Padded Tripod Carrying Bag for Light Stands Boom Stand and Tripod.

Here's Artie J ---- 5.0 out of 5 stars Good stuff
Reviewed in the United States on June 17, 2025
Color: BlackSize: SmallVerified Purchase
Very discreet way to transport my AR9. Nicely padded with lots of room inside. Plus a zipper pocket for spare accessories.

And . . . Public Name 5.0 out of 5 stars
Fits mossberg shockwave perfectly
Reviewed in the United States on December 22, 2023
Color: BlackSize: SmallVerified Purchase
Nice padding , dual zippers so can be “locked” for transport. Great carrying bag for mossberg shockwave at a great price

Then there's Matthew 5.0 out of 5 stars PERFECT For My Mossberg 590 Shockwave!
Reviewed in the United States on November 18, 2022
Color: BlackSize: SmallVerified Purchase
I needed a protective case for my little Mossie Shockwave and this is PERFECT! It's padded just right for protection with zippered storage pockets, a carry strap, and a great handle. It's like it was made specifically for my little shotgun! Excellent value too!


These are just a few of the comments where gun nutters are proudly mentioning how they will use this tripod bag.

Looking at the video it looks like to me he is carrying a tripod bag.

[in2herbs]

40. What I don't understand is how several shells could be found but only one bullet was heard? nt

[sarisataka]

44. Shell is an imprecise term

It can refer to a "spent shell" that was fired (case would be the correct term for the brass) or it can be an "unfired shell" (cartridge is the accurate word)

The rifle apparently had 4 "shells" in it. The fired case still in the chamber and three cartridges in the magazine.

[Greg_In_SF]

45. There was one

spent shell casing found and four unfired cartridges remaining in the rifle.

[artemisia1]

46. This video demonstrates what I wrote about it being unlikely he broke down the Mauser and why it is unlikely,

particularly after firing the shot and escaping: