Trump is a murderer

[Botany]

The killing of those people in those 2 boats in the ocean was murder. End of story.
No trial, no evidence, and no proof of the running of drugs either just to change the
the subject from his decades long part of being in a child sex trafficking ring that
was international in its reach with Trump not only raping the girls but in using his
modeling try outs and beauty pageants to recruit more young ladies, the use of his
plane to transport the girls, and money laundering too. So he killed people to try
to change the subject.

Trump is a murderer.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

1. Hegseth"s bloodies his hands to curry favor

[EndlessWire]

26. This runs back directly to Trump.

He openly stated that it was his decision. He's bragging on it.

I don't think he feels anything. He's a psychopath who feels no empathy toward anyone. Deport people to hell? Swell. Bomb and kill 14 people? Swell. Put people out of jobs, food, and property? What does he care.

I hope the people who voted for him, all the people giving him their money voluntarily to get a cheap, Chinese made bauble, and all those dumbass citizens who speak on air to support him--I hope they're happy with the chaos, murders, and pain they caused and are continuing to cause. When rump and vance are over, they will slip away and disavow ever supporting him. Sound familiar? Well, that's what they will do.

Shame on repubs in Congress. And most of all, shame on the Roberts court.

[ImNotGod]

2. Where are the World's democracies? They should be guarding against out of control fascist shithole

countries like the US with lethal deterrents if needed.

[Justice matters.]

5. Running away from the newest Fascist military junta...

while trying to make sure its "awful criminal influence" does not result in dismantling their own democracies through online so-called "social" media worldwide communications (Fascist propaganda).

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. It was exactly that but here's the problem, when discussing with my

Recovering Republican relative, who agrees Trump and Hegseth and the rest are horrible people and so is the Republican Party now, his first comment when I brought it up was “well if they were actually drug smugglers then OK.“

I immediately said to him “no it is not OK, what happened to innocent till proven guilty and a court of law, and what if they weren’t then it’s murder, it’s murder either way actually.”

He did not argue with me so I think he saw my point, but you see how easy it is for people to just go along with it assuming certain facts that you can never assume with these pieces of shit running the country, into the ground.

[newdeal2]

7. People are conditioned to love a strong man type

Nothing new there.

[Attilatheblond]

16. 'Father is Best' Syndrome. Not enough Americans ever took a long hard look at their own fathers, or others in the area

So much easier to stay delusional and just let think some man knows best. So much easier to remain in infancy than apply logic and live in reality.

My dad was very intelligent, liberal minded, great sense of humor, and could be inspirational. But he was also a drunk and molested my sister. He was a misogynist when he was in his cups, blamed women for the woes of the world. I cut him out of my life and never regretted it.

Americans need to grow up and stop relying on a daddy figure. Our collective delusions and laziness is a big part of why we are where we are.

And regarding those two boats he had blown to pieces: The method used to be stop and inspect. But the Felon likes to make boom booms. The high he gets never lasts long and he has to go on to the next horror.

[ananda]

20. You are a good relative to point them in the right direction.

Unlike other Magats, your relative has hope.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Trump is a murderer, rapist, traitor, extortionist, thief, career criminal and mob boss.

And Americans love him.

[MiHale]

15. Some...not all...or even most.

I’ll agree on your subject line 1000%

[Irish_Dem]

17. One third love hm, one third hate him, one third don't give a damn.

[spike jones]

25. Werner Herzog said: "Dear America: You are waking up as Germany once did, to the awareness that

1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches."

[Irish_Dem]

27. The well known rule of thirds is often right.

[ananda]

21. Well, the Magats have really crazy, idiotic ideas about him..

because he is a white male who gives them cover and
legitimacy for their white Republican jesus hate and bigotry.

[Irish_Dem]

22. And their greed.

Tells them how rich they are going to be if he is in the WH.

[ananda]

23. LOL.

Except for the already rich ones, I have to laugh
at their stupidity.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Even the rich ones are being extorted to hell and back by Trump.

They didn't count on Trump demanding a cut of their profits.
Idiots.

[ananda]

37. Yes, they have to kiss the ring and pay for "protection."

But they won't go broke.

[Irish_Dem]

38. Exactly, they wont have to start cutting coupons tp buy groceries.

But it hurts them emotionally because the billionaires are money hoarders.
They hate like hell to be extorted by Trump.
Especially when Trump screws them anyway.

[ananda]

42. That may be true, but what do you think they'll do about it?

Will they veer away and support Democrats?

What do you think?

[Irish_Dem]

45. I don't know. I think they are asking the same question.

It depends probably how much money they can make on a sinking economy
and the big bribes they must pay to Trump.

They may never vote Dem, but they don't have to keep funding the GOP
if the extortion rates are too high.

[ananda]

49. I tend to agree.

Basically, so many of them are entitled rich pricks
who don't want to pay taxes.

And obviously they have no morals whatsoever.

I would expect them to have a tipping point,
but the stakes would have to be very high.

[Irish_Dem]

54. Yes. They want no taxes, no regulation, big govt subsidies.

Rake in as much cash possible while screwing over the consumers and
destroying the planet.

They believe all the world's resources belong to them and they don't want to share.

Trump will give them what they want, but they will have to pay the piper.

Yes it seems there would have to be a tipping point.
What it is I don't know. May be different for each person.

For example the tipping point was reached I believed for South Korean manufacturers here in the US.
They were doing what Trump wanted. Manufacturing done here in the US with American employees,
but some South Korean employees which is to be expected.

But those employees were dragged away brutally in chains on hands and feet.
And thrown into dismal detention centers.
For the Asians this was particularly humiliating and terrifying.
They are a proud people.

Koreans back home were appalled and furious. They have been our strong friends and allies
for many years.

And for the owners who are supposed to pay Trump a big cut of profits as a bribe, is it worth
it to them?

I don't know, we shall see how it all plays out.

[ananda]

56. Well said. Regarding foreign relations...

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Trump is a psychopathic, jingoistic asshole
who wants good relations only with other
psychopathic dictators.

He has so far been very successful with
rhem and with Americans on home ground.

However, he also wants to deal only with white
people who are either greedy and selfish like
himself or else able to be manipulated into
making deals he can tout as great victories.

For example, the upcoming state visit to the UK
is key for him.

How this plays out will show the world how he
intends to create enough personal wealth and
power to plunder and destroy as many places as possible
to enlarge the sandbox he's currently playing in.

[Irish_Dem]

62. Well said.

The amount of ass kissing in the UK right now must be of epic proportions.
Trump will be on a high for days.

[ananda]

66. Yes.. of epic puke proportions.

I couldn't take more than a few glimpses of it here
on DU.

[SunSeeker]

28. "And Americans love him."?! No, Americans hate him.

[Irish_Dem]

29. 43% approval rate is almost half the US population.

[SunSeeker]

32. 57% disapprove. That is FOURTEEN POINTS more than who approve, and WAY MORE THAN HALF.

And he won with only 49.5% of the vote---he didn't get a majority--not even half. He got no mandate.

Repeating Trump’s lie that America loves him demoralizes people and makes them think there is no hope, so they stay home rather than vote and engage in opposition. Do you want that?

[Irish_Dem]

36. Until we face reality we cannot win at anything.

Almost half the US population approves of Trump.

Massaging the data and playing with numbers does not change that fact.

[SunSeeker]

41. 43% is not "almost half." Saying "America loves Trump" is not "facing reality."

Equating how 43% feel to how "America" feels, while ignoring how 57% feel, is what is "massaging the data." That is surrendering to Trump’s lies.

How does telling us lies (that America loves Trump) help us "win"?

[Jack Valentino]

52. 43% is NOT "almost half"---- it is significantly less than "half"---

And YES, it is deplorable that his approval is even THAT high---
but other polls have showed it as quite a bit lower....

[calimary]

53. This American sure doesn't.

Take a little comfort in this: nobody I know or am currently close to loves him or likes him even a little bit. We’re VERY ready for this sordid period to END!

[Irish_Dem]

55. We are probably in the minority and our power is being taken away by the day.

I do not know how this sordid story ends.
In some ways it is just beginning.

[SCantiGOP]

6. We'll, murder was the only one

of the 10 Commandments that we weren’t certain he had broken yet, so congratulate him on his perfect record.
And extra points for having smashed all of the 7 Deadly Sins years ago.

[mountain grammy]

8. Kirk wanted public executions.. this is the beginning

[Blue Full Moon]

9. Seems like Charlie Kirk could be included

The vigil at the Kennedy Center. Trump put himself in as the director. He went golfing. Loomer said Kirk was a traitor to MAGA. Fuentes called him an enemy. Target on his back because of this hateful rhetoric.

[FoggyLake]

10. Trump is a full-on serial killer.

[Blue Full Moon]

11. He would profile as one

[Attilatheblond]

18. He is a cleaned up version of Charile Manson, in a blue suit

But same pathology, Same racism, same Hitler hero worship but without carving a Swastika on his forehead, and same memorizing ability to other weak people to satisfy his bloodlust for him.

He IS Charlie Manson in a suit and with an army of drafted law firms.

[twodogsbarking]

12. Yes, yes, oh yes.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20646316

[Klarkashton]

13. That was an illegal order carried out by the military.

There are no safeguards.

[kerouac2]

14. Trial run before doing to American citizens

All he will have to say is that they were running drugs. Won't matter if they are American or not, guilty or not.

[Botany]

47. Yup!

On tape an ICE officer was quoted as saying he was fighting “liberals.” BTW Trump
expunged the federal records of 150,000 cops who had been thrown out of their departments
for abuse, drug running, theft, rape, and other crimes I betya a bunch of them are now working
as ICE officers.

[kerouac2]

57. Dollars to donuts

That makes sense for sure.

[Botany]

58. Krasnov expunged the Federal records of those "dirty cops" on his first 2 or 3 days in office in January '21.

This has been in the works for years.

Trump is a big part of this fascist coup but people like Miller, Bannon, Leonard Leo, Stone,
“True the Vote,” Loomer, Theil, Musk, others such as the project 2025, Gini Thomas, Putin,
and Roger Stone are the brains behind this destruction of America’s democracy.

[North Coast Lawyer]

19. Indefensible

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There is no justification for these homicides. These boats didn't pose an imminent threat to anyone. If there was actionable intelligence these boats could have easily been stopped and boarded.

[sellitman]

30. NATO needs to kick America out of it's organization.

Trump is clearly a Dictator. He is a menace to all free societies.

It's time he is totally embarrassed and thrown out on his ass.

[maxsolomon]

31. We elect Presidents to murder for us.

Basically, every one of them has blood on their hands to one degree or another, and much of it is innocent blood.

America finally picked a President that gets off on murdering.

[Clouds Passing]

33. What are the people on the boats names?

[Ms. Toad]

34. Unfortuately, his murders probably fall into the category of official acts.

BUT - those carrying out his orders do not have immunity. Their obligation was to refuse to obey illegal orders - and I hope they are prosecuted.

[gfarber]

35. Boat

VanLandingham raised a red flag,
When Trump let the military brag,
"We shot up a boat!"
But that doesn't float—
The law’s not a whim or a gag.

Said Trump, “Blow that boat out the blue!”
No court, no war—just a view.
Rachel then snapped,
“That order’s mishapped—
Extrajudicial and lawless to do.”

The president ordered a hit,
No trial, no war—just his wit.
"That's murder," she warned,
As the rulebook was scorned—
A strongman in tantrum, unfit.

A boat was destroyed on command,
No war, no clear threat on hand.
"No law backs this kill,"
Said VanLandingham, still—
"It’s power unbridled, not planned."

[sinkingfeeling]

39. He's working on getting into hell.

[JoseBalow]

50. Hey, relax guy!

[red dog 1]

40. K&R

I absolutely agree!

[B.See]

43. In my book a murderer way before now.

Based upon his Covid obstructionism ALONE. To say nothing of how many will die from his ceasing the work of USAID.

[Botany]

46. The # of deaths from cutting USAID was 300,000 last May I am sure the # is now 1 million

Experts are predicting that over the next 3 years we could be looking @
14 million dead in Africa.

[electric_blue68]

67. Yes, his covid response was the first thing I thought of.

[NH Ethylene]

44. Saw a clip with him joking about it

Saying it would be risky to be in a fishing boat out there right now. Chuckles followed by threats.

Basically admitting one boat looks like any other and too bad if a bunch of fishermen get blown away.

[Justice matters.]

65. He's a sadistic mass murderer.

A pedophile with zero human values.

I thought the history of previously failing criminal strongmen was well known in the US.

History shows it never ended well... surely not 'better' than before they came to grab power.

Looks like I was wrong.

[Joinfortmill]

48. Possibly in more ways than we know.

[Jack Valentino]

51. Trump was a murderer during 2020 COVID, but this is much more 'direct'...

[Joinfortmill]

59. I think it's even worse than that. Lots we don't know yet.

[travelingthrulife]

60. I suspect Charlie met his maker compliments of The Merry Murderer.

[NJCher]

61. that trump is a murderer was the topic on

our WNYC (public radio) show this Wed. morning. The expert he featured was Brian Finucane, who used to the a Chief Justice in Nova Scotia.

Here's a synopsis of the program:

The Trump administration's recent lethal strikes on purported drug boats in Venezuela drew widespread condemnation from experts in international law. Brian Finucane, senior adviser at the International Crisis Group and a non-resident senior fellow at Reiss Center on Law and Security at NYU Law, talks about the strikes and the legal issues around them.

When they post the audio of this segment, I'll return and provide a link. As you can well imagine, what he said about trump's playing judge, jury, and executioner is not good.

[electric_blue68]

68. Because I sleep between breakfast, and lunch I catch Brian at night through I-Tunes...

they break up his segments so I can pick, and choose.

I really have get back in the habit of listening to more WNYC programs more often. I was a steady listener for decades, and sometimes a contributor, too.

[NJCher]

70. he used to give scant attention to trump

But after he was "elected," he started having more stories on trump, so I quit listening and do the segment thing like you do. In this case, though, I looked at the topics and saw there was no mention of them, so I listened. The NJ reporter did the show 'cuz Brian was on vacation.
I get enough of trump here, and I have the extension that turns any photos of him into kittens.

[electric_blue68]

71. I couldn't say for sure how much he (Brian) was talking about trump....

Is it Bridget Bergen is filling in for him on vacay?


And you have an app that turns drumphf into a kitten?

[NJCher]

72. Yes to both

I forgot her name. She's very good and she does a good job for NJ.

Yes, I have the app that takes a pic of trump and turns it into a kitten!

[Justice matters.]

63. K&R and also a distraction from his TWO BILLION bribe

TWO BILLION BRIBE from the UAE Sheikhs for them to put their hands in the MICROCHIPs industry.

Really? Pedofelon profits obscenely from the Presidency of the United States and nobody can do anything against it??

[Kid Berwyn]

64. Absolutely.

What did Venezuela ever do to make war on the United States?

Mebbe Trump's mad because they sell oil to Cubah and Jynah.

[Torchlight]

69. Idiots will justify it

The subliterate will rationalize it, the sealions will explain it, and they will all of them point their fingers at someone else. Open questions unsanctioned by the Party are becoming a problem for them.