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mainer

(12,502 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 02:59 PM Sep 2025

Surgeon forced to resign after negative comments about Charlie Kirk

A nurse ratted him out on social media. Let me see. A man who’s saved actual lives is hounded out of a job because he said mean things about a man who said gun rights were worth a few people getting killed. How does this make sense?

https://nypost.com/2025/09/15/us-news/nj-surgeon-who-cheered-charlie-kirks-murder-resigns-as-suspended-nurse-who-called-him-out-is-reinstated/

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Surgeon forced to resign after negative comments about Charlie Kirk (Original Post) mainer Sep 2025 OP
THIS IS INSANE! He was a two-bit PODCASTER! Chasstev365 Sep 2025 #1
I'm seriously getting to the "OH MY GOD WHO THE HELL CARES" part of this. Initech Sep 2025 #37
In my neck of the woods, southern Oregon, valleyrogue Sep 2025 #55
We've entered the 'Only State-Sanctioned Opinions Will be Permitted' phase of out nation's growth. Torchlight Sep 2025 #2
It's like a medieval ergot madness outbreak. Blues Heron Sep 2025 #3
Or too much meth Clouds Passing Sep 2025 #6
Get That %#$(*& Rye Flour Off the Market! The Roux Comes First Sep 2025 #27
You could be on to something... nt blue_jay Sep 2025 #32
negative or LyfeTimeDem Sep 2025 #4
Free speech is gone. JBTaurus83 Sep 2025 #5
This has Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #13
The poster said nothing about the first amendment fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #14
1st amendment...free speech Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #21
This may not be a first amendment issue, but it is indeed a free speech issue fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #24
I do realize Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #31
The Nurse should have been let go as well due to blasting it on social media crimycarny Sep 2025 #36
Not arguing that! Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #39
Yes--I understand that crimycarny Sep 2025 #47
Fired withoug cause... Mossfern Sep 2025 #40
He resigned SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #41
Did he give the reason for his resignation? Mossfern Sep 2025 #42
Article said he resigned... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #44
I would argue it does Samael13 Sep 2025 #45
error Cirsium Sep 2025 #20
That is the point Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #22
oops Cirsium Sep 2025 #28
Maybe not in this particular instance, but Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #50
I think the surgeon will be ok. But yeah this firing people is crazy. harumph Sep 2025 #7
Lawsuits, people. Hit them hard, hit them fast, and hit them where it will really hurt. mwmisses4289 Sep 2025 #8
Impulse control is a lost virtue Seeking Serenity Sep 2025 #9
Lexi Kuenzle, the MAGAt nurse rat: Celerity Sep 2025 #10
Fluffer or a real nurse? NoMoreRepugs Sep 2025 #16
Real, and she filed a lawsuit. Celerity Sep 2025 #19
She filed a lawsuit... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #23
Have you read the HR handbook DiverDave Sep 2025 #48
She has her job back SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #49
She's got that Botox plastic surgery and boob job poison in her! kimbutgar Sep 2025 #17
She's looking to go national! Trump's next Loomer! nt Ilsa Sep 2025 #33
Loomer with her big fat Botox lips is gonna be real jealous kimbutgar Sep 2025 #38
She can be made assistant Ambassador to Greece. Norrrm Sep 2025 #54
the rwj talking heads were all over that on the air this morning . ugh. AllaN01Bear Sep 2025 #11
The surgeon will find another position and that nurse will become a hated pariah at that hospital kimbutgar Sep 2025 #12
Cancel Culture OC375 Sep 2025 #15
Your speech must conform to Official Lies. thought crime Sep 2025 #18
Yes, NO Thought Crimes! Cha Sep 2025 #35
The "nurse" sounds nice... Cha Sep 2025 #25
F these snowflake MAGAs Cirsium Sep 2025 #26
All I can say is ' Freedom Fries" Klarkashton Sep 2025 #29
WTF!!! This is getting to be absolutely insane! Initech Sep 2025 #30
"Said some mean things" Is it a repeat of what Kirk Ilsa Sep 2025 #34
What happened to the locals here about GusBob Sep 2025 #43
1 Surgeon is worth 10 million kirks SamuelTheThird Sep 2025 #46
And now repubs are pissed off because Kirk tavernier Sep 2025 #51
OK now FUCK THIS BULLSHIT Blue Owl Sep 2025 #52
Don't resign! viva la Sep 2025 #53
Move to Canada, a much better country and they would welcome any professional that this shithole country abuses. nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #56
The nurse lied mainer Sep 2025 #57

Initech

(107,576 posts)
37. I'm seriously getting to the "OH MY GOD WHO THE HELL CARES" part of this.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:46 PM
Sep 2025

I like to think I have some empathy... but what MAGA is doing with this is fucking insane.

valleyrogue

(2,603 posts)
55. In my neck of the woods, southern Oregon,
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:17 AM
Sep 2025

these nutjobs have held car cruises, prayer events, and general gatherings in memory of this grifting POS. These KKK types without hoods, robes, or cross burnings plan yet another cruise in a few days PLUS one on Kirk's birthday next month.

That is batshittery. Some of the people participating in this garbage I personally know. It is outrageous and an embarrassment.

Torchlight

(6,355 posts)
2. We've entered the 'Only State-Sanctioned Opinions Will be Permitted' phase of out nation's growth.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 03:01 PM
Sep 2025

nt

fujiyamasan

(1,253 posts)
24. This may not be a first amendment issue, but it is indeed a free speech issue
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:08 PM
Sep 2025

Apparently it’s totally cool now to fire people for not being sufficiently sad about Kirk and you’re claiming free speech is not under threat?

You do realize this isn’t the first incident, right?

Greg_In_SF

(891 posts)
31. I do realize
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:22 PM
Sep 2025

this is not the first incident and it probably won't be the last.

Here's the deal, you a free to say anything you want at any time. However, you are not immune from the consequences by claiming "free speech". That is the distinction.

crimycarny

(2,016 posts)
36. The Nurse should have been let go as well due to blasting it on social media
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:42 PM
Sep 2025

From what I'm reading about this story, the doctor made this comment in a private setting and apologized when the nurse in question was offended. If the nurse had complained to HR and kept it all in-house, that's one thing. However, she chose to share this on social media, including the hospital's name and the doctor's name.

THAT should have been a fireable offense, too. I work for a fairly large hospital chain, and we have to take a "Code of Conduct" course every year. Posting things on social media that reference staff and the hospital by name is cause for discipline or even firing.

If the doctor faced "consequences", the nurse should have as well.

Greg_In_SF

(891 posts)
39. Not arguing that!
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:56 PM
Sep 2025

Just that this is in no way a 1st amendment or free speech issue. That's all.

crimycarny

(2,016 posts)
47. Yes--I understand that
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:25 PM
Sep 2025

Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything else, was agreeing with your take on consequences, but was shocked that the nurse wasn't let go as well.

We've been getting slammed by our leadership with reminders about social media after a medical worker posted pictures of the entire staff making fun of human secretions left on exam tables (such as would happen with a pap smear).

To read that the nurse posted about the incident on social media, before any investigation was completed, just blows my mind that she wasn't fired.

Mossfern

(4,631 posts)
40. Fired withoug cause...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:07 PM
Sep 2025

surely you can see the writing on the wall. The surgeon has the right to appeal the firing and insist on being reinstated with repayment of any losses he had. Would you feel the same if he were fired because he prefers blue rather than green paint for the walls?

Mossfern

(4,631 posts)
42. Did he give the reason for his resignation?
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:10 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)

???

ETA: "Forced to resign" is a kind way of saying "fired."
I was forced to resign from a government position because of differences of opinion regarding an ethical issue. I refused to do what was asked of me..

I was given a less controversial position because they didn't want me to open my mouth if I were actually fired.

Samael13

(129 posts)
45. I would argue it does
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:18 PM
Sep 2025

Most of this is happening because everyone is afraid of reprisals from the administration. I mean the justice department is looking into an office depot because someone refused to print flyers for a charlie kirk memorial.

Crunchy Frog

(28,214 posts)
50. Maybe not in this particular instance, but
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:06 PM
Sep 2025

when you have government officials actively promoting and participating in campaigns to get people fired for speech, which they are, then it definitely is a 1st Amendment issue.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
23. She filed a lawsuit...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:08 PM
Sep 2025

…because she was placed on unpaid suspension after she reported him and posted online about it.

Asshole move to report him and post about it, but also asshole move to suspend her for it.

DiverDave

(5,219 posts)
48. Have you read the HR handbook
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:59 PM
Sep 2025

For that hospital? Many frown on posts naming the hospital and coworkers.

So, maybe rein in your horses. Until you know facts.
I hope she gets it thrown out.
Too bad she didn't lose her job.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
49. She has her job back
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:15 PM
Sep 2025

So I’m guessing she’ll drop the lawsuit.

And yes, they may well have a policy about social media, just as they may well have a political conversations around patients.

If the doctor felt he was as in the right, he shouldn’t have resigned and if fired, he could have fought it .

kimbutgar

(26,895 posts)
38. Loomer with her big fat Botox lips is gonna be real jealous
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sep 2025

Being pushed aside for another side chick won’t bode well for her!

kimbutgar

(26,895 posts)
12. The surgeon will find another position and that nurse will become a hated pariah at that hospital
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 05:36 PM
Sep 2025

And she will regret what she did!

OC375

(470 posts)
15. Cancel Culture
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 05:52 PM
Sep 2025

I think they've been waiting for an opportunity to harness it to their own ends.This would appear to be it.

Cirsium

(3,418 posts)
26. F these snowflake MAGAs
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:11 PM
Sep 2025

I can't count the number of times I have heard much worse things from MAGAs about various Democrats, academics, authors, liberals in general, etc., at work, at the supermarket, in restaurants, on the radio and tv, on hiking trails ffs, for the last 20 years. Kirk made a living saying much worse things about people. Much worse.

Initech

(107,576 posts)
30. WTF!!! This is getting to be absolutely insane!
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:21 PM
Sep 2025

Also, fuck that nurse. Nobody wants to work with someone who rats out their coworkers.

Ilsa

(63,883 posts)
34. "Said some mean things" Is it a repeat of what Kirk
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:30 PM
Sep 2025

said or did the dr rejoice in his death?

The hospital is stupid.

GusBob

(8,142 posts)
43. What happened to the locals here about
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:14 PM
Sep 2025

The ones who scolded ‘every time someone on DU says something bad about , or celebrates the death of CK, it makes DU look bad’

A week ago today was it not?

One wonders if said folks are in agreement with people losing their jobs for even quoting things that dead asshole said?

tavernier

(14,292 posts)
51. And now repubs are pissed off because Kirk
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:11 PM
Sep 2025

wasn’t mentioned at the Emmys. Lots of crying about that because they seem to think he was a star in show business.

viva la

(4,508 posts)
53. Don't resign!
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:56 PM
Sep 2025

Make them fire you and the threaten a lawsuit.

These MAGAS act like this puerile Kirk guy is St Stephen the martyr.

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
56. Move to Canada, a much better country and they would welcome any professional that this shithole country abuses. nt
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:30 AM
Sep 2025

mainer

(12,502 posts)
57. The nurse lied
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:01 AM
Sep 2025

Hospital says she was never fired and never suspended. She went online and blasted it out to the world. She wanted her 15 minutes of fame, and now a highly trained surgeon is gone.

“ Englewood Health disputed Kuenzle’s claim that hospital administrators told her she would be dismissed for voicing her displeasure to human resources and on her personal Instagram page.

“The nurse was never fired, was never told she would be fired by Englewood Hospital, and will not miss any pay as part of our review of this matter,” the hospital said in its statement. ”

https://www.nj.com/bergen/2025/09/nj-doctor-who-celebrated-charlie-kirks-death-resigns-nurse-who-outed-him-reinstated.html

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