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RandySF

(81,359 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:17 PM Sep 2025

NY-GOV: Mamdani declines to immediately back Hochul's reelection after she offers him coveted endorsement

After Gov. Hochul finally endorsed him for mayor over the weekend, Democratic nominee Zohran Mamdani declined to immediately return the favor Monday by backing her own reelection bid.

“My focus is on November,” Mamdani, a democratic socialist, told reporters when asked if he would endorse Hochul for a second term ahead of her 2026 reelection battle. “And I’m excited to have the governor’s support in that fight for November as we make it clear that that we can put the days of City Hall and Albany being at war in the past.”

Mamdani’s dodge came a day after Hochul, a moderate Democrat, formally endorsed him Sunday after declining to do so for weeks. Hochul’s endorsement put pressure on other top New York Democrats to back Mamdani, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, who have so far declined to offer support for the mayoral front-runner.

The move by Mamdani to withhold immediate support comes as Hochul could face multiple intense political battles next year.



https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/09/15/mamdani-declines-to-immediately-back-hochuls-reelection-after-she-offers-him-coveted-endorsement/

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NY-GOV: Mamdani declines to immediately back Hochul's reelection after she offers him coveted endorsement (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2025 OP
This is timely, since I did wonder what he has ever done for her Nixie Sep 2025 #1
Laughing so hard I think I threw my back out ... stopdiggin Sep 2025 #2
Why is he "required" to stick his nose in a primary after she did the right thing and endorsed the Democratic nominee? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #3
What are you talking about? What have you got against NYDN? lapucelle Sep 2025 #5
NYDN is a blue collar tabloid with a Democratic / liberal editorial board and arguably the best sports pages in NYC. lapucelle Sep 2025 #7
Oh, ok. LMAO Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #8
Is a 4 year old front page and a facebook meme from 10 years ago the best ya got? lapucelle Sep 2025 #10
. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #15
Yes, well, I suppose some folks would pick pop star front pages as their most iconic. lapucelle Sep 2025 #21
However, if you asked New Yorkers or print journalists to choose their most iconic NYDN front page, lapucelle Sep 2025 #22
Momdani's "lavish" 3-day wedding also made the news! Nixie Sep 2025 #25
Did someone yell hey rube down at the bingo hall? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #38
I've only seen pictures of Bernie's bingo halls. Maybe that's why Nixie Sep 2025 #41
So for those who don't know what the word "tabloid" means, this is why the NYDN is classified as a tabloid. lapucelle Sep 2025 #52
You are not helping your case. Try Merriam-Webster: Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #53
Oh dear. lapucelle Sep 2025 #54
And in the rush to post your Britney Spears photo, you appeared to have missed this. lapucelle Sep 2025 #13
Because there was a thread that "Democrats MUST ENDORSE all Democrats". LeftInTX Sep 2025 #16
You know Hochul is entering a contested primary against OTHER DEMOCRATIC candidates for the job, yes? An actual primary Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #17
I forgot about the primary LeftInTX Sep 2025 #18
Mentioning the word "primary" would have removed 90% of the argle gargle outrage intended in the clickbait headline Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #39
The headline that cost a Republican the presidency... lapucelle Sep 2025 #49
for crying out loud jaymac Sep 2025 #32
Endorsing someone from the same party SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #4
Mamdani encouraged folks not to vote for the Democratic presidential candidate in the primary, lapucelle Sep 2025 #6
I think that's fine what he did but the ones that then attack Jefferies JI7 Sep 2025 #20
Agree JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #9
Well, well, well mcar Sep 2025 #11
This is a ridiculous argument UniqueUserName Sep 2025 #31
Well, how about that he didn't endorse Biden or Harris last year either. MichMan Sep 2025 #51
I'm going to ignore this trend of pushing for early endorsements that is suddenly happening. Quiet Em Sep 2025 #12
And just like that, endorsements don't matter. betsuni Sep 2025 #14
She probably doesn't want his endorsement JI7 Sep 2025 #19
Primaries are important to voters and a great way to know other candidates that don't have as Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #23
Please stop making sense. Incanus Sep 2025 #24
+2 this is the reason. Emile Sep 2025 #27
I wouldn't be so sure of that, he failed to publicly endorsed Kamala Harris during her campaign. tritsofme Sep 2025 #28
He wasn't a politician then. Emile Sep 2025 #30
Yes he was. He has had a seat in the NYS Assembly since 2020. N/T lapucelle Sep 2025 #44
Oh please, how many NYS Assembly members endorsed candidates? Emile Sep 2025 #45
You said "He wasn't a politician then [in 2024]". I simply said "Yes he was". lapucelle Sep 2025 #46
LOL Emile Sep 2025 #47
Why are you sure that "he will endorse any Democrat who wins the Democratic nomination for Governor" lapucelle Sep 2025 #33
Because now he is running for Mayor of NYC and will be working with the elected Democratic Governor. Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #34
If Mamdani wins, he will be working with Kathy Hochul for the full first year of his term. lapucelle Sep 2025 #36
Okey Dokey Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #40
Fair point JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #43
Yup, I say don't expect him to endorse but also don't demand JI7 Sep 2025 #48
Ah yeah JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #50
Is she the democratic nominee? SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #26
If I were Mamdani, I'd do the same thing - Hochul waits almost 3 months to endorse after he won the primary and Midwestern Democrat Sep 2025 #29
Hochul will be the governor for Mamdani's first year in office, and, as mayor, Mamdani will be powerless lapucelle Sep 2025 #37
This might be good for the governor karynnj Sep 2025 #35
So why did we have all that intense bickering and sniping at fellow Dems who didn't immeeeeediately... Hekate Sep 2025 #55

Nixie

(17,944 posts)
1. This is timely, since I did wonder what he has ever done for her
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:23 PM
Sep 2025

after I heard of her endorsement. Now I know.

stopdiggin

(15,070 posts)
2. Laughing so hard I think I threw my back out ...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:37 PM
Sep 2025

In truth - I don't think this really means too much, or count for much of anything ...
But it's all just so gosh darned amusing, and .... Rich?

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
3. Why is he "required" to stick his nose in a primary after she did the right thing and endorsed the Democratic nominee?
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 2025

More clickbait nonsense by the ny daily news


lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
7. NYDN is a blue collar tabloid with a Democratic / liberal editorial board and arguably the best sports pages in NYC.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:10 PM
Sep 2025

And unlike the NYT, NYDN still has a city desk.

Are you confusing it with the Murdoch rag the New York Post? Both newspapers do have "New York" in their names, and that can be tricky for some people.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
10. Is a 4 year old front page and a facebook meme from 10 years ago the best ya got?
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:59 PM
Sep 2025

Oh, OK.

But the references are all so ... in the past ... old.





lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
21. Yes, well, I suppose some folks would pick pop star front pages as their most iconic.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:43 AM
Sep 2025

There's nothing wrong with focusing on those two. Lots of people like pop stars.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
22. However, if you asked New Yorkers or print journalists to choose their most iconic NYDN front page,
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:58 AM
Sep 2025

they would probably choose this.



Nixie

(17,944 posts)
25. Momdani's "lavish" 3-day wedding also made the news!
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:36 AM
Sep 2025

How many emojis does that get??

I noticed the news of his billionaire wedding at his parent’s compound was not posted about much here, probably because most ordinary people don’t get 3-day weddings at their parents “compound.” There was masked security, good times.

Did you read that article about Taylor Swift? Will her wedding be as lavish? Three-day celebrity weddings seem to be normal now. One day for the meet and greets, one day for the ceremony, and the third day for the after parties. That takes a lot of money, though.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
38. Did someone yell hey rube down at the bingo hall?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:59 PM
Sep 2025

The NY Daily News is classified as a tabloid. Tabloids do clickbait (how this thread started). They may be our tabloid but it’s still a tabloid.

Nixie

(17,944 posts)
41. I've only seen pictures of Bernie's bingo halls. Maybe that's why
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:50 PM
Sep 2025

some are so hung up on them.

You were trying to pretend that a wedding announcement was too trivial for the erudite crowds you must hang with. Yet, wedding clickbait is all over the news, including Mamdani’s very extravagant wedding, complete with lots of media pictures. It looked like a fabulous 3-day wedding. Congrats to the newlyweds.

This thread also didn’t start the way you described, but that’s as usual. It’s actually an interesting juxtaposition of the value of endorsements and what’s required of the endorsement recipients.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
52. So for those who don't know what the word "tabloid" means, this is why the NYDN is classified as a tabloid.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:19 PM
Sep 2025
A tabloid is a newspaper format characterized by its compact size, smaller than a broadsheet. The term originates from the 19th century, when the London-based pharmaceutical company Burroughs Wellcome & Co. used the term to describe compressed pills, later adopted by newspapers to denote condensed content.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid






Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
53. You are not helping your case. Try Merriam-Webster:
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:58 PM
Sep 2025
tabloid

adjective
1
: of, relating to, or resembling tabloids
especially : featuring stories of violence, crime, or scandal presented in a sensational manner


Even your Wikipedia source has this:

a type of journalism deriving from the style used by newspapers in tabloid format, focusing on controversial and sensationalistic angles or subjects


Maybe google AI can help you:

Is new york daily news a tabloid?

Yes, the New York Daily News is a tabloid. This is accurate in two different ways: by its physical size and by its journalistic style.
Physical size
The Daily News is printed in the smaller, more compact tabloid format, which is easier to read on the go, such as on the subway.
In contrast, a broadsheet, like The New York Times, is larger and unfolds vertically.
Journalistic style
As America's first successful tabloid when it was founded in 1919, the Daily News attracted readers with sensationalized coverage of crime and scandal, along with a focus on photographs and entertainment.
While it has evolved and won Pulitzer Prizes for serious journalism, it retains its more accessible, fast-paced style and often competes with other New York papers, such as the New York Post, for eye-catching headlines.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
54. Oh dear.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:03 PM
Sep 2025

You used the word "tabloid" as a noun, and then skipped right over its definition as a noun and instead posted the definition of "tabloid" as an adjective. That's what the "adj" means. Your post used the word as a noun.

Here's the definition of "tabloid" as both a noun and an adjective from your source:

tabloid
noun

1: a newspaper that is about half the page size of an ordinary newspaper and that contains news in condensed form and much photographic matter
2: digest, summary

tabloid
adjective

1 of, relating to, or resembling tabloids especially : featuring stories of violence, crime, or scandal presented in a sensational manner

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tabloid

==============================

Using AI can be so tricky! Your *source* says that the NYDN attracted customers 106 years ago (that's even older than the facebook meme) with sensationalized stories about crime and scandals, but it has evolved won Pulitzer prizes for serious journalism.

==============================

And finally, The decontextualized snippet from Wiki appears to be describing a type of journalism rather than a newspaper format, and the result of the cropped, partial quote is "a tabloid is a type of journalism..."

Is your Wikipedia mid-sentence snippet from the section about a specific subset of tabloids, the red top tabloid? The NYDN is not a red top tabloid.

Red top tabloids
See also: Red tops

Red top tabloids, named after their distinguishing red mastheads, employ a form of writing known as tabloid journalism; this style emphasizes features such as sensational crime stories, astrology, gossip columns about the personal lives of celebrities and sports stars, and junk food news. Celebrity gossip columns which appear in red top tabloids and focus on their sexual practices, misuse of narcotics, and the private aspects of their lives often border on, and sometimes cross the line of defamation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid




LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
16. Because there was a thread that "Democrats MUST ENDORSE all Democrats".
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:46 PM
Sep 2025

It was berating Jeffries and Schumer because they hadn't endorsed Mamdani.

The thread was quite strident.

I really don't care if Mamdani endorses Hochul and I don't care if Schumer and Jeffries don't endorse Mamdani. I think Mamdani doesn't need their endorsement. Hochul may need Mamdani's more than he needs Schumer and Jeffries'.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
17. You know Hochul is entering a contested primary against OTHER DEMOCRATIC candidates for the job, yes? An actual primary
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 11:59 PM
Sep 2025

Mamdani has already been through the primary and running against NON DEMOCRATIC candidates - namely a sex-pest Trump aligned spoiler, a criminal trump aligned hostage, and a certified loon Republican who karate chops old ladies on the subway since 1980

Mamdani is the verified certified DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

Vote blue no mater who!

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
39. Mentioning the word "primary" would have removed 90% of the argle gargle outrage intended in the clickbait headline
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:04 PM
Sep 2025

Which was actually the point of my initial comment.

The NY Daily News is a couple notches above Bat Boy inc. with their front pages.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
49. The headline that cost a Republican the presidency...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:01 PM
Sep 2025
Infamous ‘Drop Dead’ Was Never Said by Ford

Gerald R. Ford and Marie Antoinette did not have much in common, but being misquoted cost both of them their jobs.

snip==================================

Mr. Ford, on Oct. 29, 1975, gave a speech denying federal assistance to spare New York from bankruptcy. The front page of The Daily News the next day read: “FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD.”

Mr. Ford never explicitly said “drop dead.”Yet those two words, arguably the essence of his remarks as encapsulated in the immortal headline, would, as he later acknowledged, cost him the presidency the following year, after Jimmy Carter, nominated by the Democrats in New York, narrowly carried the state.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/28/nyregion/28veto.html






jaymac

(259 posts)
32. for crying out loud
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:36 AM
Sep 2025

Just because he hasn't endorsed does not mean he won't..........is this like a game of slap jack where you have to respond as fast as you can? jeez, take a breath.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
6. Mamdani encouraged folks not to vote for the Democratic presidential candidate in the primary,
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 05:56 PM
Sep 2025

and he declined to endorse the Democratic nominee for president.

I'm not sure why anybody is surprised by this latest turn. It was to be expected.

JI7

(93,264 posts)
20. I think that's fine what he did but the ones that then attack Jefferies
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:22 AM
Sep 2025

and even those outside of NYC more interested in attacking Democrats. They aren't liberals.

JustAnotherGen

(37,618 posts)
42. Agree
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:30 PM
Sep 2025

So far he isn't being hung around Sherrill's neck in NJ. I don't want the DSA fucking it up for NJ. This election is a nail biter. We could pick up 2 Assembly and Senate seats - and that's what we need to change the state constitution to allow for mid decade re-districting.

Shittarelli would not allow it - Mikie will.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

mcar

(45,712 posts)
11. Well, well, well
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:03 PM
Sep 2025

Looking forward to hearing the criticisms of a Democrat not endorsing a Democrat.

UniqueUserName

(397 posts)
31. This is a ridiculous argument
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:29 AM
Sep 2025

He isn't required to put his thumb on the scale of the Democratic primary.

You will have a point if he fails to endorse the Democratic nominee once the primary is over.

Quiet Em

(2,561 posts)
12. I'm going to ignore this trend of pushing for early endorsements that is suddenly happening.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:05 PM
Sep 2025

October of this year would be a great time for anyone to endorse Mamdani for this year's NYC Mayoral election and October of 26 would be a good time for folks to endorse Governor Hochul.

JI7

(93,264 posts)
19. She probably doesn't want his endorsement
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:21 AM
Sep 2025

She is running statewide so will need votes outside of NYC.

Nanjeanne

(6,513 posts)
23. Primaries are important to voters and a great way to know other candidates that don't have as
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:59 AM
Sep 2025

high a profile as a current Governor. I am quite sure Mamdani will endorse Hochel if she wins the primary. And I’m sure he will endorse any Democrat who wins the Democratic nomination for Governor.

Not Picking sides in a Democratic primary makes sense to me. And the Daily News is simply trying to stir something up — which also makes sense for the Daily News. Sad to see Democrats expecting Mamdani to choose one Dem over another when it’s possible Delgado could win and be the candidate. And others could enter the race still.

Incanus

(180 posts)
24. Please stop making sense.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:32 AM
Sep 2025

J/k, please do keep it up, a voice of reason is much appreciated.

tritsofme

(19,812 posts)
28. I wouldn't be so sure of that, he failed to publicly endorsed Kamala Harris during her campaign.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:49 AM
Sep 2025

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
46. You said "He wasn't a politician then [in 2024]". I simply said "Yes he was".
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:58 PM
Sep 2025

And you know what? He was a politician in 2024. He was running for his third term.

Oh, please indeed.



lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
33. Why are you sure that "he will endorse any Democrat who wins the Democratic nomination for Governor"
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:24 AM
Sep 2025

when he didn't endorse the Democratic nominee for president?

Did he endorse Biden-Harris in 2020 when he was running for State Assembly or did he follow the DSA resolution prohibiting the endorsement of the Democratic nominees?

Nanjeanne

(6,513 posts)
34. Because now he is running for Mayor of NYC and will be working with the elected Democratic Governor.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:29 AM
Sep 2025

It doesn't inform my opinion what happened in in 2020 when he was running for State Assembly. This is 2025 and I am absolutely positive that the Democratic Candidate for Mayor will endorse the Democratic Candidate for Governor.

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
36. If Mamdani wins, he will be working with Kathy Hochul for the full first year of his term.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 2025

There is no guarantee that a Democrat will win the 2026 gubernatorial race. We've had Republican governors in NYS, and the Democratic nominee will most likely be facing a formidable Republican challenger.

Hardly any of Mamdani's proposals can be enacted without action from the governor and the NYS legislature.

Can Zohran Mamdani’s Agenda Survive Albany?

Mamdani’s plans for universal child care, fare-free transit, and affordable housing rely on Albany getting on board.

Two of the three key planks in his platform — making buses free to ride and providing universal free child care — would require action from the governor and state legislature, including raising taxes by billions of dollars. (The third, freezing the rent on rent-stabilized apartments, can be accomplished at the city level.)

https://nysfocus.com/2025/06/26/zohran-mamdani-albany-taxes

====================================

Zohran Mamdani, a New York City mayoral candidate, does not have the unilateral power to raise taxes. Any proposal to increase New York City's income tax would require approval from the New York state legislature and the governor. Income tax rates for New York City residents are set in Albany by the state legislature and signed into law by the governor, not by the city's mayor.

Mamdani has proposed increasing taxes on wealthy city residents to fund programs like free bus service and universal childcare.

New York Governor Kathy Hochul has previously called additional tax increases a "nonstarter," citing concerns that higher taxes could drive wealthy residents out of the state.

As demonstrated during former Mayor Bill de Blasio's term, a New York City mayor's ambitions are often constrained by the state government, particularly regarding tax policy.

https://bit.ly/4nBvIlt

JustAnotherGen

(37,618 posts)
43. Fair point
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:32 PM
Sep 2025

I don't see him doing it. Some people are only Democrats when it's away into office.

Same time - it would hurt the Democratic nominee in Buff, Roc, and Cause to have his endorsement.

JI7

(93,264 posts)
48. Yup, I say don't expect him to endorse but also don't demand
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:30 PM
Sep 2025

others endorse him.

My bigger problem is with the hypocrites who try to say the NYC mayor's race which the Republican has no chance of winning is more important than the Presidential race.

Midwestern Democrat

(1,029 posts)
29. If I were Mamdani, I'd do the same thing - Hochul waits almost 3 months to endorse after he won the primary and
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:56 AM
Sep 2025

after his general election victory was virtually inevitable - I'd be like, "She can wait a little bit".

lapucelle

(20,950 posts)
37. Hochul will be the governor for Mamdani's first year in office, and, as mayor, Mamdani will be powerless
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:38 AM
Sep 2025

to enact most of his agenda without Albany's help. Political tit-for-tat is extremely ill-advised.

No New Yorker wants a situation where one politician says, "She made me wait. Now I'm gong to make her wait", lest that becomes Albany's response for the first year of the new mayor's term.

Besides, it will be impossible for Mamdani to enact most of his agenda without Kathy Hochul's help. The mayor cannot raise corporate and income taxes on his own, so Hochul's pragmatism might be something to emulate.

What's ironic is that Zohran Mamdani actually currently the has power to help advance the agenda he is now promoting as a mayoral candidate. He ran for NYS Assembly on the same agenda in 2020.

New Yorkers are still waiting.

karynnj

(60,811 posts)
35. This might be good for the governor
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:30 AM
Sep 2025

Assume Mamdani becomes mayor and the relationship between Albany and NYC improves. Not hard given Adams is now mayor.

Then an endorsement from the new mayor speaking of any examples would be more powerful than an endorsement from a mayoral candidate.

Also, an endorsement now would look like they traded endorsements. Making both endorsements mean less.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
55. So why did we have all that intense bickering and sniping at fellow Dems who didn't immeeeeediately...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:13 PM
Sep 2025

…jump on the glorious Mamdani bandwagon? Especially the Dem politicians who weren’t even New Yorkers?

Because it sure looks like Mamdani is going to take his own sweet time about returning the favor of an endorsement when it suits him.

Or did I read this wrong?

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