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This image is from a post on my local "Next Door" forum. Someone reported this envelope was left along with their newspaper in their newspaper box this morning, apparently accidently since it's totally unconnected to the recipient. No-one on ND has yet been able to decipher or explain the cryptic written information, but you'll note that it contains mention of Charlie Kirk's birthday along with solar and other info.
Would anyone here have a clue what this might be concerning?
"Eighth day" seems to be a recurring theme.

Midnight Writer
(25,156 posts)underpants
(195,096 posts)On the vertical line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisan
Egypt
Rapture
Indiana
???
SWBTATTReg
(26,073 posts)Some people have been fervently wishing for the end of times w/ tRUMP in the picture, and they obviously feel like Kirk's death adds to the growing list of proof (in their mind). As to why they put in it in your mailbox? By accident? By design? Trying to send you a msg? If so, it's not very clear, and perhaps I'd notify either the Post Office and/or Police about this, you could have a messed up person or nutjob in your neighborhood. Perhaps other neighbors have seen strange things too.
In any case, just watch your back! Also, perhaps one of your neighbors has cameras that could have caught the perp placing the material into your box...
underpants
(195,096 posts)SWBTATTReg
(26,073 posts)New beginnings, regeneration, and resurrection
In the Bible, the number 8 symbolizes new beginnings, regeneration, and resurrection. It is associated with significant events such as Noah's Ark, which represents a fresh start after the flood, and the circumcision of the heart, indicating spiritual rebirth. Additionally, Jesus' resurrection is often linked to the number 8, emphasizing hope and new life for believers. Overall, the number 8 signifies a new order or creation in biblical context.
Maybe you have an end of times neighbor near you that is obsessed w/ the end times or is extremely religious...
underpants
(195,096 posts)Totally Tunsie
(11,602 posts)SheltieLover
(76,985 posts)SWBTATTReg
(26,073 posts)hurt to be safe.
SheltieLover
(76,985 posts)They would just dismuss it as someone doodling, but police might take it seriously.
And I'd keep a photocopy.
TxGuitar
(4,332 posts)Maybe had it in their hand while putting the paper in the box and accidentally dropped it there.
underpants
(195,096 posts)
muriel_volestrangler
(105,622 posts)Is there anyone Jewish involved? If so, the use of of "the eighth day of Tabernacles", Hannukah, and Nisan is a bit concerning, since there's also Tribulation, the Rapture and Charlie Kirk's birthday mentioned - this is trying to look apocalyptic. Could just be a prank on someone, could be a misplaced missive from a harmless nutter, or it could be meant to worry Julia and Omar, or whoever had the newspaper box.
Totally Tunsie
(11,602 posts)and didn't seem to relate to those names in her post. I just checked latest postings on ND, and OP is now stating that "perhaps someone found this envelope near her mailbox and just tossed it into her newspaper box". While she was originally a bit concerned about receiving this, she's now saying she's not worried about finding this in her box and considers it a random situation. DAMN tho...I'm now concerned! LOL
muriel_volestrangler
(105,622 posts)which I think is a good thing. Just numerology trying to think of anything to do with Kirk's birthday. "The middle closed door" means nothing to the finder?
Totally Tunsie
(11,602 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,285 posts)Totally Tunsie
(11,602 posts)still-prayin4rain
(525 posts)yardwork
(68,987 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(105,622 posts)The eighth day of Tabernacles (Sukkot) is Simchat Torah. In 2025, this falls on the evening of 13th October/day of 14th October.
https://jewishmedicalassociationuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/festivals2526.pdf
Charlie Kirk was born on 14th October, 1993
https://www.onthisday.com/date/1993/october/14
On 14th October 2023, there was an annular eclipse of the Sun visible from the USA
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/list.html?starty=2020
There was a total eclipse in 8th April 2024 also visible in the USA - this was visible in Indiana (see top of screed)
https://nationaleclipse.com/maps/map_2023_2024.html
Nisan began on April 9th in 2024 (or maybe on the evening of April 8th? Can anyone Jewish confirm?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisan
So whoever wrote this is trying to tie things in the Jewish calendar, and astronomy, to Kirk's birthday.
I can't read what's at the bottom line crossing - "Keir Villet"???
On edit: I've just found "Kerrville" in Texas as a city in Texas where both eclipses were visible - see 2nd map at the nationaleclipse.com link.
And also - there's a place in Indiana called "Rapture" (Jeez, Americans can be weird sometimes) from where the 2024 eclipse was visible
https://solareclipses.com/2024eclipse/eclipse-cities/city/124794.html
There are more than one 'Little Egypt's in the USA; but one use is for southern Illinois, which also saw the 2024 total eclipse
https://nationaleclipse.com/states/2024-total-solar-eclipse-illinois.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Illinois
Totally Tunsie
(11,602 posts)I think that entry might be "Kerrville TX". Just looked it up and it's outside Houston and Austin.
Your time spent is appreciated. It's really aroused my curiosity. that's for sure.
underpants
(195,096 posts)Google going off that search autofilled Keiivillet Simchat Torah aaand AI told me it was nothing
AI overview
Based on search results, the query "Keii billet simchat torah" appears to be a garbled combination of unrelated terms, rather than a single coherent topic. There is no meaningful connection between "Keii billet" and "Simchat Torah".
Simchat Torah is October 14-15 this year
Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah 101 - Hillel InternationalSimchat Torah, a Jewish holiday meaning "Rejoicing of the Torah," celebrates the conclusion and immediate recommencement of the annual Torah reading cycle. It's a time for joyful celebrations, including dancing and singing with the Torah scrolls in synagogues and at community gatherings, often with children waving flags and receiving sweets. The holiday emphasizes the continuous joy and importance of studying the Torah throughout a lifetime.
If this is a timeline does it go up or down? Im not sure
muriel_volestrangler
(105,622 posts)and we have "Rapture, Indiana" where the 2024 eclipse was also seen.
So the line from the bottom is the path of the 2024 eclipse; the bottom horizontalish line is the 2023 annular eclipse.
underpants
(195,096 posts)I was trying to stick to it being two is.
Makes sense. Good work.
Its aaaalll coming together now

Totally Tunsie
(11,602 posts)underpants
(195,096 posts)LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)But also a bunch of people were killed there on July 4th. Have them call the cops.
Oct 14 is his BD.
NoRethugFriends
(3,653 posts)(for fans of the show The Good Place)
Celerity
(53,778 posts)LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)They could have put Bandera, Hondo, Comfort, Boerne or San Antonio, but they put the town where all those people died in that flood.
Both eclipses were maximum in all those towns.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,450 posts)Doodley
(11,660 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,490 posts)Fifty years ago, as a kid in a Pentecostal church, when I asked I was repeatedly told, "Just about any minute now." Now, call me a blackhearted cynic, but I'm starting to think that maybe they didn't know what they were talking about.
Doodley
(11,660 posts)yardwork
(68,987 posts)At least they did for me.
usonian
(23,676 posts)⭐️Good luck, 🍀 ⭐️
underpants
(195,096 posts)usonian
(23,676 posts)underpants
(195,096 posts)The colonoscopy went well 👍 👀
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182224684
usonian
(23,676 posts)⌚️
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)hunter
(40,392 posts)He's talkative too, a mishmash of everything he's heard in church or read in the Bible.
Once he asked if I could create a web site for him. I respectfully declined.
It seems to me no coincidence that religion resonates with certain kinds of mental illness.
GreenWave
(12,371 posts)Inositol?
or this?
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LudwigPastorius
(14,243 posts)Looks like a timeline of "signs" leading up to the Rapture.
LeftInTX
(34,015 posts)They mention the solar ecliipses of apr 8, 2024 and oct 14,2023 and Kerrville. The eclipses were total in Kerrville. But they were also total in places near Kerrville, such as Helotes. So are they also trying to tie it to the flood? Charlie Kirk's birthday was also Oct 14th.
Looks like they're expecting a rapture in Little Egypt Cemetery in Indiana https://www.reddit.com/r/Indiana/comments/q9u98d/urban_legends/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CemeteryPorn/comments/wcdsqn/little_egypt_ewald_cemetery_plymouth_indiana/
I know the Apr eclipse of 2024 was total in Indiana also.
Are they predicting a rapture on Oct 14th. Who knows?
Anyway, Charlie was murdered, his name is on this. It speaks of the death. Call the cops. Give them something to do.
hunter
(40,392 posts)I've seen them shoot people who didn't need to be shot.